What card will replace the 8800GTX?

[Dashel]

Forgetting the 8800 Ultra, what is predicted to be the next top of the heap 500.00 card to knock it off? Seems like they 8800 GTX has been the high end pick forever now or am I just really out of the loop?

 

[ScrewFace]

It'll probably be the G100 (GeForce 9800GTX) which'll be up to twice as fast as the 8800 Ultra. What do others think?

 

[alcoholbob]

I think nVidia is probably thinking long and hard whether or not they want to use the same product name as a previous ATI/AMD product.

And it's also entirely possible that ATI's next gen offer will also be faster than the 8800 GTX, in fact, more than likely I'd say.

 

[ConstipatedVigilante]

Originally posted by: Astrallite
I think nVidia is probably thinking long and hard whether or not they want to use the same product name as a previous ATI/AMD product.

And it's also entirely possible that ATI's next gen offer will also be faster than the 8800 GTX, in fact, more than likely I'd say.

*Ahem* Has everyone forgotten the existence of the Radeon 8500?

 

[Cheex]

Originally posted by: ConstipatedVigilante

Originally posted by: Astrallite
I think nVidia is probably thinking long and hard whether or not they want to use the same product name as a previous ATI/AMD product.

And it's also entirely possible that ATI's next gen offer will also be faster than the 8800 GTX, in fact, more than likely I'd say.

*Ahem* Has everyone forgotten the existence of the Radeon 8500?

I don't mean to speak for everyone (except you of course) but....

Yes.

 

[spunkz]

http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/...ia-g92-little-g80-65nm

the inq mentions a possible 1gb version of the 8800gt. how do you think it would run on high res then?

 

[alcoholbob]

With the GT I doubt the limitation will be RAM. Same as the GTS, while the 640mb variant held up better at higher resolutions and higher settings, performance still fell of at nearly the same rate as the 320mb variant compared to the GTX performance curve.

So giving the 8800GT 1gb is the same thing as giving it 10gb of memory--something else is bottlenecking performance far more than the memory difference.

 

[Cheex]

Originally posted by: Astrallite
With the GT I doubt the limitation will be RAM. Same as the GTS, while the 640mb variant held up better at higher resolutions and higher settings, performance still fell of at nearly the same rate as the 320mb variant compared to the GTX performance curve.

So giving the 8800GT 1gb is the same thing as giving it 10gb of memory--something else is bottlenecking performance far more than the memory difference.

Good point...but what is actually bottlenecking it though?

 

[Keysplayr]

Originally posted by: Cheex

Originally posted by: Astrallite
With the GT I doubt the limitation will be RAM. Same as the GTS, while the 640mb variant held up better at higher resolutions and higher settings, performance still fell of at nearly the same rate as the 320mb variant compared to the GTX performance curve.

So giving the 8800GT 1gb is the same thing as giving it 10gb of memory--something else is bottlenecking performance far more than the memory difference.

Good point...but what is actually bottlenecking it though?

You mean current GTS in comparison to a GTX? Well, 32 less shaders, 128MB less RAM, 64bit skinnier bus, 4 less ROP's, lower core clock, lower shader domain clock, lower memory clock (ok I'm depressing myself now)

In the case of the supposed 8800GT spec: 16 less shaders, 128 bit skinnier bus. And I don't know the rest.

 

[firewolfsm]

I think nVidia should update the 8800GTX on 65nm with more shaders, maybe 192 or something.

 

[Nightmare225]

Originally posted by: firewolfsm
I think nVidia should update the 8800GTX on 65nm with more shaders, maybe 192 or something.

If ATI was being competitive, they would have made an 8900 with these specs half a year ago...

 

[firewolfsm]

I guess you're right, they're competing for the mid-range now, not the high end.

Which sucks, because we need high end to play Crysis.

 

[alcoholbob]

I feel bad for Crytek, since basically they are releasing a game at a time where you need to chose between dropping a ton of money now right at the end of the cycle, or waiting a few more months for a card that will totally wipe the floor with the 8800 GTX, but you either had to skip Crysis altogether or have a less than optimal experience attempting to run it.

And I'm guessing most people will choose the latter. I may pick up a 256mb 8800GT so I can play games for a couple months before I drop cash for the next high end, but I'm not gonna be expecting decent performance on Crysis.

 

[ArchAngel777]

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003

Originally posted by: Cheex

Originally posted by: Astrallite
With the GT I doubt the limitation will be RAM. Same as the GTS, while the 640mb variant held up better at higher resolutions and higher settings, performance still fell of at nearly the same rate as the 320mb variant compared to the GTX performance curve.

So giving the 8800GT 1gb is the same thing as giving it 10gb of memory--something else is bottlenecking performance far more than the memory difference.

Good point...but what is actually bottlenecking it though?

You mean current GTS in comparison to a GTX? Well, 32 less shaders, 128MB less RAM, 64bit skinnier bus, 4 less ROP's, lower core clock, lower shader domain clock, lower memory clock (ok I'm depressing myself now)

In the case of the supposed 8800GT spec: 16 less shaders, 128 bit skinnier bus. And I don't know the rest.

No kidding... The people who bought the 8800GTX made a very wise decision as much as that sounds backwards. Normally the people who are behind the cutting edge get the best price performance, but the 8800GTX proved that wrong this time around. So I am almost hitting myself for not picking one up when they were released... But then again, those people had to deal with horrible drivers, so maybe they really didn't make a wise decision... All, checks and balances... Life is a game! Play it well!

 

[ArchAngel777]

Originally posted by: firewolfsm
I guess you're right, they're competing for the mid-range now, not the high end.

Which sucks, because we need high end to play Crysis.

I am not sure how much I can say due to the NDA... Probably nothing at all, but in some ways it is silly since the public beta is now huge and many of you guys here already know and have played it. Therefore, I will just say that Crysis is quite playable with current high end hardware @ my monitors native resolution... So, don't be dismayed. Even the first Far Cry ran sluggish for the top end cards for its time. This will not be entirely different, you will just need to scale back the settings unless you prefer a slide show.

 

[CrystalBay]

good drivers??

 

[drum]

Originally posted by: ArchAngel777

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003

Originally posted by: Cheex

Originally posted by: Astrallite
With the GT I doubt the limitation will be RAM. Same as the GTS, while the 640mb variant held up better at higher resolutions and higher settings, performance still fell of at nearly the same rate as the 320mb variant compared to the GTX performance curve.

So giving the 8800GT 1gb is the same thing as giving it 10gb of memory--something else is bottlenecking performance far more than the memory difference.

Good point...but what is actually bottlenecking it though?

You mean current GTS in comparison to a GTX? Well, 32 less shaders, 128MB less RAM, 64bit skinnier bus, 4 less ROP's, lower core clock, lower shader domain clock, lower memory clock (ok I'm depressing myself now)

In the case of the supposed 8800GT spec: 16 less shaders, 128 bit skinnier bus. And I don't know the rest.

No kidding... The people who bought the 8800GTX made a very wise decision as much as that sounds backwards. Normally the people who are behind the cutting edge get the best price performance, but the 8800GTX proved that wrong this time around. So I am almost hitting myself for not picking one up when they were released... But then again, those people had to deal with horrible drivers, so maybe they really didn't make a wise decision... All, checks and balances... Life is a game! Play it well!

Yep, I got mine in March and played all the games I couldn't from years past.
Very lucky break for me since I never buy high end cards like that... I was coming from an ATi 9500Pro :laugh:

 

[Hauk]

Originally posted by: ArchAngel777
The people who bought the 8800GTX made a very wise decision... So I am almost hitting myself for not picking one up when they were released... But then again, those people had to deal with horrible drivers, so maybe they really didn't make a wise decision...

I bought mine shortly after launch and don't regret dropping $629. At the time I was halfway through Oblivion and it drastically changed that experience, and all others since. Even with latest hardware, I had never run games with all details maxed. Drivers weren't as bad as stated. The GTX is without a doubt the best money I've spent on hardware.

My GTX purrs at 630 core 1000mem 1450shader, flashed with an 8800 Ultra bios. I love it! It's gonna be hard parting with it, but if 8900GTX doubles the performance, damn you nVidia...