What are your thoughts on women having too many babies?

[Ranger X]

Link (Sorry if this is a repost. The article is dated 04/07/2004.)

Apparently in Arkansas, this woman current has 14 kids with another on its way. She received the "Young Mother" award and it baffles me as to why we're praising women for having excessive number of kids. The gov't rewards parents by offering them tax breaks and you often see companies offering hand-outs, such as diapers and baby food. The world, as it is, is already overpopulated and the population of the United States is increasing on its own each year with immigration (both legal and illegal). I honestly don't think large families are necessary anymore with the advancement of medicine whereas in the past, women had many children because death amongst the them were common.

I hate how in the article she references God and how God intended her to have all these children. If it was possible for her to have 100 kids, can she justify this as well?

What are some of your thoughts on this issue??

Before anyone thinks about flaming, I'm well aware that she has the right to have 14+ kids but that doesn't mean I have to like it. Frankly, I wish the taxes that I pay would go someplace else instead -- and yes, I'm aware that tax dollars are spent in many areas that I wouldn't necessarily agree with but that's a whole different topic.

EDIT: I didn't read the article thoroughly but apparently this family can support them all.

 

[BooGiMaN]

does the article say if she can afford them?

if she is moochign off the state thats sucks, but if they are rich and not relyign on handouts thats their business

 

[Gunbuster]

Someone has to produce the drones to flip my burgers and change my oil

 

[DaWhim]

hm...1 step-brother and sister, 3 sisters and 1 brother.....myself as well.

 

[MAME]

2 kids max :|

 

[Ranger X]

Originally posted by: BooGiMaN
does the article say if she can afford them?

if she is moochign off the state thats sucks, but if they are rich and not relyign on handouts thats their business

Oh I hope she can afford them. I didn't see anywhere that said she can afford or not afford them. Having 1 child is expensive enough but if they can truly afford 15 kids, they must be REALLY well off. The woman is probably a stay at home mom because someone has to take care of them all.

My guess is the family, most likely being a 1 income family, is probably mooching off the State.

Maybe we need to go to a system like China's system.

 

[eigen]

Originally posted by: BooGiMaN
does the article say if she can afford them?

if she is moochign off the state thats sucks, but if they are rich and not relyign on handouts thats their business

Exactyl, keep the slave class coming.......Way to sabotage your childrens lives from the get go,

 

Originally posted by: Ranger X
Maybe we need to go to a system like China's system.

Sure, Americans will deal well with that.

 

[Ranger X]

Originally posted by: jumpr

Originally posted by: Ranger X

Maybe we need to go to a system like China's system.

Sure, Americans will deal well with that.

Haha, yeah I know. One can only dream ...

 

[GasX]

Originally posted by: eigen

Originally posted by: BooGiMaN
does the article say if she can afford them?

if she is moochign off the state thats sucks, but if they are rich and not relyign on handouts thats their business

Exactyl, keep the slave class coming.......Way to sabotage your childrens lives from the get go,

What is it about life, ethics, economics, politics, morals, wisdom, logic that escapes you?

 

[SludgeFactory]

Originally posted by: Ranger X
Oh I hope she can afford them. I didn't see anywhere that said she can afford or not afford them. Having 1 child is expensive enough but if they can truly afford 15 kids, they must be REALLY well off. The woman is probably a stay at home mom because someone has to take care of them all.

My guess is the family, most likely being a 1 income family, is probably mooching off the State.

Maybe we need to go to a system like China's system.

LOL did you even read your link?

The husband is in real estate and is a former politician. This article says he ran for US Senate at one point. They're building a 7000 square foot house. I would assume they're doing well enough.

I don't personally agree with popping out 15 kids in modern society either, but at least it appears the taxpayers aren't subsidizing this bunch.

The political connections also explain the "Mother of the Year" award.

 

[KarenMarie]

if she can afford to feed, clothe, house them and can raise them so they are responsible members of society... then I say

1) power to her
2) better her than me.

 

[flxnimprtmscl]

Originally posted by: jumpr

Originally posted by: Ranger X
Maybe we need to go to a system like China's system.

Sure, Americans will deal well with that.

You don't think so? Why not? We've sat idly by while we've lost countless other basic freedoms. Well, you might be right. If there's one thing that's important to us it's our right to mindlessly procreate

After all, what would white trash and members of various religions do if they couldn't sh!t out a kid a week?

 

[MikeMike]

my grandparents had 11 kids.

my grandmother was told after the 3rd that she should not have anymore.

my father was the 10th, and one of the most successful of the kids was the 11th,

MIKE

 

[rgwalt]

Originally posted by: jumpr

Originally posted by: Ranger X
Maybe we need to go to a system like China's system.

Sure, Americans will deal well with that.

Yeah, Americans will deal REALLY well with forced abortions and sterilizations.

My policy is "If you can't feed them, then don't breed them". If the parents are supporting the kids they have, then I have no problem with it. However, if they are receiving welfare or other assistence from the state or federal government, then I think it would be in everyone's best interests if she stopped having children. However, it is her right to have that many kids, and I will not infringe upon that right. Restrictions on the amount of state/federal assistence might be appropriate though.

The tax credit for dependents is another issue entirely.

EDIT: My philosophy is 2 children, no more after that. ZGP starts at home, kids.

R

 

[flot]

15 kids, that is completely insane.

And I don't think they're costing the govt much - the article also mentions that they are "home schooled."

So not only are they bringing 15 kids into the world, they're bringing in 15 freakazoid introverts. I'm sure they go through daily "respect your elders" training and maybe when they grow up they'll form a nice little militia in the compound they're building. (did you read the part where it is 7000 sqft, but just two bedrooms for the kids - a girl's dorm and boy's dorm???)

You have to be pretty screwed up to want to do something like that. I could buy 3, 4, 5 kids... but 15, and you are a complete nutcase. The rest of the article bears that theory out nicely... bad enough they live in AK and the guy's name is Jim Bob... I just hope somebody will post the link to the article when one of the 13 yr old girls gets pregnant - without ever leaving the house.

 

[Ranger X]

Originally posted by: SludgeFactory

Originally posted by: Ranger X
Oh I hope she can afford them. I didn't see anywhere that said she can afford or not afford them. Having 1 child is expensive enough but if they can truly afford 15 kids, they must be REALLY well off. The woman is probably a stay at home mom because someone has to take care of them all.

My guess is the family, most likely being a 1 income family, is probably mooching off the State.

Maybe we need to go to a system like China's system.

LOL did you even read your link?

The husband is in real estate and is a former politician. This article says he ran for US Senate at one point. They're building a 7000 square foot house. I would assume they're doing well enough.

I don't personally agree with popping out 15 kids in modern society either, but at least it appears the taxpayers aren't subsidizing this bunch.

The political connections also explain the "Mother of the Year" award.

I didn't read it in detail so I goofed on the details. Bad example but I guess my point was mostly focused on those that can't pay for their children that rely on the gov't for assistance.

 

[Wallydraigle]

I'm not a busybody, so I don't spend much time thinking about such things, it being none of my business.

 

[FleshLight]

char x="financially stable"

if{
women == x;
}then(whynot)

 

[WinkOsmosis]

Originally posted by: Ranger X

Originally posted by: SludgeFactory

Originally posted by: Ranger X
Oh I hope she can afford them. I didn't see anywhere that said she can afford or not afford them. Having 1 child is expensive enough but if they can truly afford 15 kids, they must be REALLY well off. The woman is probably a stay at home mom because someone has to take care of them all.

My guess is the family, most likely being a 1 income family, is probably mooching off the State.

Maybe we need to go to a system like China's system.

LOL did you even read your link?

The husband is in real estate and is a former politician. This article says he ran for US Senate at one point. They're building a 7000 square foot house. I would assume they're doing well enough.

I don't personally agree with popping out 15 kids in modern society either, but at least it appears the taxpayers aren't subsidizing this bunch.

The political connections also explain the "Mother of the Year" award.

I didn't read it in detail so I goofed on the details. Bad example but I guess my point was mostly focused on those that can't pay for their children that rely on the gov't for assistance.

They still get tax breaks.

 

[Ranger X]

A huge tax break, yes, but I don't think they're staying afloat solely based on that.

 

[RobCur]

Originally posted by: Gunbuster
Someone has to produce the drones to flip my burgers and change my oil

that's nothing, a women is capable of having at least 20 before she is worn out
starting from 18 to her early 40's.. btw, this is amazing!
I believe having more kids = more offsprings to rule the world, its not about the quality of an individual but rather the number means more then anything else. The reason for immigration is because everywhere else people are overpopulated and needed a new place to start breeding all over again.

 

[FleshLight]

Originally posted by: RobCur

Originally posted by: Gunbuster
Someone has to produce the drones to flip my burgers and change my oil

that's nothing, a women is capable of having at least 20 before she is worn out
starting from 18 to her early 40's.. btw, this is amazing!
I believe having more kids = more offsprings to rule the world, its not about the quality of an individual but rather the number means more then anything else. The reason for immigration is because everywhere else people are overpopulated and needed a new place to start breeding all over again.

Nope. People immigrate for the ability to have better opportunities (American Dream).

People who have lots of children are generally in very impoverished areas. The infant mortality rate is usually fairly high in their area (3rd world country) and the more children they have, the odds of having many of them survive increase. With more surviving children, they can work for you and perhaps one day make you financially stable.

 

[StageLeft]

Pathetic. They can't possibly be cared for to the extent that kids in a family of 4, for instance, could be. They can't even function adequately without public assistance (and sharing a room with 5 kids isn't adequate IMO). Why is she having more kids? She's like a shopaholic who's up to her ass in debt, but keeps buying, as if the next skirt will be the final cap on her happiness.

EDIT: I didn't read the article thoroughly but apparently this family can support them all.

That's unusual! Generally you get these idiots with 8 kids and all kinds of public assistance.

 

[sparkyclarky]

If she can afford it, it is her right to have them. For those of you clambering about over population, you should read up a bit. The number of children per person is actually dropping quite a bit in the developed world. Europeans are actually being encouraged to have more children, because traditional cultures are being lost as heavier levels of immigration occur. The birthrate of 'natives' in many countries is actually too low to sustain the population. My mom comes from a family of 9. They weren't wealthy growing up, but very few rural folks were in Wisconsin during the 60s and 70s.