what are your thoughts on this?

[edmicman]

I came across this today

Any thoughts?

 

[n0cmonkey]

Already been covered.

 

[neuralfx]

heh the death of tcpip .. it's just not gonna happen .. it's not, even if they tried to do that, which they arent, people would probably die over this heh .. just my 2cents ..
-neural

 

[n0cmonkey]

<< heh the death of tcpip .. it's just not gonna happen .. it's not, even if they tried to do that, which they arent, people would probably die over this heh .. just my 2cents ..
-neural >>



Now imagine what someone can do with 400,000 win2k systems after thsi code red worm.

 

[Psychoholic]

What a moron. First of all it's obvious from reading this he takes the stance of &quot;things like this only happen to Microsoft products&quot;.

Let's examine some of this &quot;expert's&quot; opinions shall we???


<< And now, we have the impending release of Windows XP, and its problem of raw TCP/IP socket exposure. As I detailed two weeks ago, XP is the first home version of Windows to allow complete access to TCP/IP sockets, which can be exploited by viruses to do all sorts of damage. >>


Hmmmm.... Mr. Cringely seems to forget Raw Socket capibility has been in other OS'es for quite some time. He's acting like this is a new threat. The threat was already present.



<< Windows XP uses essentially the same TCP/IP software as Windows 2000, except that XP lacks 2000's higher-level security features. >>


Exactly what security features does XP lack compared to W2K??? I beginning to think Mr. Cringely has been holed up in his office with a copy of Win95 for the past 2 years.



<< By running applications like Gibson's Zone Alarm >>


Hello???? News flash....WTF does Steve Gibson have to do with Zone Alarm other than the fact he promotes it on his site???



<< Now to the other approach, the one some people attribute to Microsoft. I am not making this up. The story came to me from people I have come to trust, and I have looked into it closely enough to think it might have some validity. But for the sake of keeping lawyers off my back, let's just call it a rumor, >>


Is this starting to sound like a National Enquirer article or what???



<< According to these programmers, Microsoft wants to replace TCP/IP with a proprietary protocol -- a protocol owned by Microsoft -- that it will tout as being more secure. Actually, the new protocol would likely be TCP/IP with some of the reserved fields used as pointers to proprietary extensions, >>


Oh, Microsoft's plan is to have TCP/IP scrapped in favor of their new proprietary protocol and overnight everyone will being using this to access the internet. <rolleyes> Has anyone informed Al Gore about this??? On second thought the Enquirer wouldn't even print this B.S.



<< Second part of the push for the new protocol will be from AOL/Time-Warner, normally Microsoft's top competitor -- but not on this issue. >>


That will be a cold day in hell.

I can't read anymore I'm laughing too hard.....

 

[n0cmonkey]

Not disagreeing with you psychoholic. First, raw sockets is a bad idea for CONSUMER OSes because there is no need for it. Plus MOST home users dont appear to patch their servers (@home + code red?). A proprietary protocol taking over the 'net? I dont think the 'net could survive on Windows alone. Let's see... Remove all of the UNIX sites out there (sites running on UNIX) and you will be left with a deprecated POS of the internet.

 

[neuralfx]

heh microsoft wouldnt even run, if all the unix boxes suddenly disappeared.. heh microsoft wouldnt even have a tcpip stack if that happened.. bsd license .. heh .. well jus my 2cents ..
-neural

 

[n0cmonkey]

<< heh microsoft wouldnt even run, if all the unix boxes suddenly disappeared.. heh microsoft wouldnt even have a tcpip stack if that happened.. bsd license .. heh .. well jus my 2cents ..
-neural >>



No one would have a tcp/ip stack as it is known today without BSD. But I meant if there was a new proprietary protocol that only MS can understand. Just cut out the cancerous UNIX machines from the net. The Internet would no longer be as it is and Microsoft knows that. They NEED UNIX right now. Everyone does

 

[DaHitman]

Wouldnt they have to somehow convince all the people who make layer 3 routers and switches etc.. also support this protocol???

Do you really think CISCO is gonna support something that is MICROSOFT ONLY and is full of restrictions and copyrights?