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MrsBugi

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Originally posted by: Sheepathon
First, there are enough rabbits on earth to make everyone a damn rabbit fur jacket.
Somehow, someway, something you do each day or something you use involved the death of an animal in some way or other.
We're animals, just a highly evolved form. It's natural to use resources within your ability to acquire, as long as it is done in a manner that does not harm the earth or endanger a species so future generations may enjoy.

edit: Besides, those rabbits were probably made into food for either humans or other animals one way or another. It would be stupid to waste all that good meat just to get their fur.

I would certainly feel much better about the coat if the rabbits were used for food before their fur was harvested... I wonder if there is any definitive way to find out one way or another?
 

MrsBugi

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Originally posted by: MS Dawn
Fur is great but it does have that "bad side" doesn't it?

And those radical tosser peta folk throw blood on those wearing fur - brilliant solution. :disgust:

They should tar and feather those peta folk and make them walk on chicken wire hooked to the parking lot 277V system so they dance like chickens! :laugh:

I don't see the sense in throwing blood on those who wear fur, either. I would imagine that t a person whose fur coat was destroyed by blood from a PETA fanatic would just go out and buy another one.
 

MrsBugi

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Originally posted by: spidey07
What is the problem?

We use animals for our needs. Keep it, wear it and love it. Oh, and dump the controlling husband. bad mojo.

My husband does feel very strongly about this particular topic. His rationale is that "this isn't the year 500, we no longer need to wear animal fur."
 

MrsBugi

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Originally posted by: Excelsior
I just think fur coats/jackets/etc are sort of "tacky"....well, I simply don't like that style.

I think the big, poofy, pimp-like fur coats are tacky as well, but I think that this one is more understated and tasteful than most.
 

MrsBugi

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Originally posted by: acemcmac
I really don't see the point of fur when cashmere/wool is so nice.

I :heart: my cashmere top coat which I got for coupons on top of sale on top of sale at a department store for ~$190. MSRP is around $450.

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However, you are a chick (which I didn't realize until reading the OP), so I don't really know what to say. Fur isn't for me.

That is a fabulous top coat! :thumbsup:

I much prefer cashmere, angora, and merino wool to fur as well, and would never purchase a fur on my own but under these special circumstances, I'm becoming inclined to keep it. :eek:
 

spidey07

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Originally posted by: MrsBugi
Originally posted by: spidey07
What is the problem?

We use animals for our needs. Keep it, wear it and love it. Oh, and dump the controlling husband. bad mojo.

My husband does feel very strongly about this particular topic. His rationale is that "this isn't the year 500, we no longer need to wear animal fur."

So what!? Does he tell when it's OK for you to eat as well?

For such a "modern man" he's acting like a douche-bag. You are your own person. do what you feel is right and not what your "husband" wants you to be.
 

CRXican

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I was unfortunate enough to see part of a video about how chinchilla farmers kill the little guys

terrible thing to raise animals for
 

alien42

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if you catch all the rabbits yourself using snares and then eat the meat before using the pelts then feel free to wear your furs. in this case i would probably sell it.
 

acemcmac

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Originally posted by: MrsBugi
Originally posted by: acemcmac
I really don't see the point of fur when cashmere/wool is so nice.

I :heart: my cashmere top coat which I got for coupons on top of sale on top of sale at a department store for ~$190. MSRP is around $450.

pic

However, you are a chick (which I didn't realize until reading the OP), so I don't really know what to say. Fur isn't for me.

That is a fabulous top coat! :thumbsup:

I much prefer cashmere, angora, and merino wool to fur as well, and would never purchase a fur on my own but under these special circumstances, I'm becoming inclined to keep it. :eek:

Thx :D
 

alien42

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Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: MrsBugi
Originally posted by: spidey07
What is the problem?

We use animals for our needs. Keep it, wear it and love it. Oh, and dump the controlling husband. bad mojo.

My husband does feel very strongly about this particular topic. His rationale is that "this isn't the year 500, we no longer need to wear animal fur."

So what!? Does he tell when it's OK for you to eat as well?

For such a "modern man" he's acting like a douche-bag. You are your own person. do what you feel is right and not what your "husband" wants you to be.
if you can not respect someones deepest convictions then you should not be together. its a two way street and it sounds like you have not been down it.
 

MrsBugi

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Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: MrsBugi
Originally posted by: spidey07
What is the problem?

We use animals for our needs. Keep it, wear it and love it. Oh, and dump the controlling husband. bad mojo.

My husband does feel very strongly about this particular topic. His rationale is that "this isn't the year 500, we no longer need to wear animal fur."

So what!? Does he tell when it's OK for you to eat as well?

For such a "modern man" he's acting like a douche-bag. You are your own person. do what you feel is right and not what your "husband" wants you to be.

No offense intended spidey, but I feel like you're generalizing the situation a bit much. He isn't as "controlling"/passionate about other issues, but this one is particularly poignent. Relationships are very much about communication and compromise, so we try to find a happy medium for our disagreements. (If each of us did what we felt was right without consulting each other first about each other's respective opinions/positions/thoughts/feelings, we'd be divorced mighty quick! :Q)

For example, I'm not a fan of guns, and he has agreed not to ever have any of them in our home. He really enjoys basketball, and even though I am not that big of a fan of the game, I will pop popcorn and cuddle with him on the couch as we watch the games on television. Etc, etc.

He feels passionately about the fur issue, and even though I may not agree with it, I will take his opinion into consideration. If it it turns out that bothers him THAT much, I think that it would be reasonable for me to return the coat, because it would be easier to do that than to put up with him b!tching about it for the next 80 years. :p

We'll see though, I'll be doing my darndest to convince him otherwise since I do like it. But ultimately, I'm married to the man, not the coat. ;)
 

MrPickins

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Originally posted by: MrsBugi
Originally posted by: HomeBrewerDude
I must see the OP wearing the coat before I can comment.

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My mushroom and sun-dried tomato pizza with ATOT as my dinner company :)

Personally, I think it looks great! I'd say keep it, but only if your husband can come to terms with it (I'm an advocate of picking your battles wisely).

The rabbits are domesticated animals, and are bred for their hide/meat. That makes them the same as a cow in my book. They should be treated humaely, but at the same time, they are resources to be used.
 

MrPickins

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Originally posted by: MrsBugi
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: MrsBugi
Originally posted by: spidey07
What is the problem?

We use animals for our needs. Keep it, wear it and love it. Oh, and dump the controlling husband. bad mojo.

My husband does feel very strongly about this particular topic. His rationale is that "this isn't the year 500, we no longer need to wear animal fur."

So what!? Does he tell when it's OK for you to eat as well?

For such a "modern man" he's acting like a douche-bag. You are your own person. do what you feel is right and not what your "husband" wants you to be.

No offense intended spidey, but I feel like you're generalizing the situation a bit much. He isn't as "controlling"/passionate about other issues, but this one is particularly poignent. Relationships are very much about communication and compromise, so we try to find a happy medium for our disagreements. (If each of us did what we felt was right without consulting each other first about each other's respective opinions/positions/thoughts/feelings, we'd be divorced mighty quick! :Q)

For example, I'm not a fan of guns, and he has agreed not to ever have any of them in our home. He really enjoys basketball, and even though I am not that big of a fan of the game, I will pop popcorn and cuddle with him on the couch as we watch the games on television. Etc, etc.

He feels passionately about the fur issue, and even though I may not agree with it, I will take his opinion into consideration. If it it turns out that bothers him THAT much, I think that it would be reasonable for me to return the coat, because it would be easier to do that than to put up with him b!tching about it for the next 80 years. :p

We'll see though, I'll be doing my darndest to convince him otherwise since I do like it. But ultimately, I'm married to the man, not the coat. ;)

Wow, someone with some common sense! :D
 

MrsBugi

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Originally posted by: MrPickins
Originally posted by: MrsBugi
Originally posted by: HomeBrewerDude
I must see the OP wearing the coat before I can comment.

With flash

Without flash 1

Without flash 2

My mushroom and sun-dried tomato pizza with ATOT as my dinner company :)

Personally, I think it looks great! I'd say keep it, but only if your husband can come to terms with it (I'm an advocate of picking your battles wisely).

The rabbits are domesticated animals, and are bred for their hide/meat. That makes them the same as a cow in my book. They should be treated humaely, but at the same time, they are resources to be used.

Excellent post, sir. :)
 

fuzzybabybunny

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Originally posted by: MrsBugi
Originally posted by: fuzzybabybunny
Noooooooo!!!!!

MrsBugi, MrsBugi, *yanks softly on MrsBugi's sleeve*

*sniffle*

:(

*wah!!!!!!*

:Q

:(:brokenheart:

*consoles fuzzybabybunny*

(I must admit, I laughed at first... what a username! :eek::) )

*sniff sniff*

It's okey. *pats MrsBugi on the head* <3

Bunnies are so much fluffier alive and snuggly than dead and sewn up into a coat :(

And think of how many bunnies took to make up that single coat... I'm sure the bunnies who were killed were also eaten, so that makes me feel a little better at least...
 

TheoPetro

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umm the coat looks pretty damn good on you I say keep it. Just because my girlfriend recycles doesnt mean I have to. I think relationships go south when people overstep their personal boundries. It is one thing to no do something little that will make someone mad. When its over wearing a coat then to me thats him overstepping his boundries. If the girlfriend didnt like a coat I got for whatever reason then I simply wouldnt wear it around her. If I liked it I sure as sh!t would wear it everywhere else though. I say talk to him about it. If he gets angry or pissed then ask him about the belts or ask why he insists on controlling you. As significant others we can ask our partners to do something but ultimately its not our decision.
 

MrPickins

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Originally posted by: TheoPetro
umm the coat looks pretty damn good on you I say keep it. Just because my girlfriend recycles doesnt mean I have to. I think relationships go south when people overstep their personal boundries. It is one thing to no do something little that will make someone mad. When its over wearing a coat then to me thats him overstepping his boundries. If the girlfriend didnt like a coat I got for whatever reason then I simply wouldnt wear it around her. If I liked it I sure as sh!t would wear it everywhere else though. I say talk to him about it. If he gets angry or pissed then ask him about the belts or ask why he insists on controlling you. As significant others we can ask our partners to do something but ultimately its not our decision.

Girlfriend != Wife

The dynamic of marraige requires compromise.
 

Mill

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Meh. I'd keep it. The overreaction to fur is simply that -- an overreaction. We slaughter animals everyday without regard to their suffering or pain. Oh well, that's life at the top of the food chain.

But, being that it is LA (if you still live there), you might not really have that much of a need for it. I mean how often does it even get below 40? Not too often. I'd consider getting rid of it just to appease him. If it is an issue he really cares about (sounds like it), and he isn't controlling, then why not appease him? I appease my SO at times, and she does the same for me. That's how a relationship works.

So, if you lived somewhere that the coat would be more practical, I'd say keep it and work out another type of compromise. If you are still living in LA then I'd avod the problem with your husband. Just my 0.02 cents.
 

DrPizza

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Simple solution: if any of his belts or shoes are leather, then "I gave them to the Salvation Army along with the coat. I didn't want you to be a hypocrite." Of course, just place those articles in a different closet until he realizes how stupid he's being.

I'm married, and I agree that compromises do need to be made. But, I refuse to compromise on issues where my wife is over-reacting or using flawed logic. And, I would expect her not to compromise with me when I'm acting irrationally or using flawed logic (yeah, like that ever happens :p ) And, if it makes you feel better, a rabbit breeder has to dispose of the carcass in one of two ways: pay to dispose of it, or get paid for it. Unless rabbit breeders are morons, I think it's safe to assume that the rest of the animal is used for meat.

On a side-note, if my son and I get some deer this year, I'm thinking of getting the skins tanned and turning them into some article of clothing. And, on another side note: I've got some flemish giant babies for sale (very large rabbits).

edit: I just read Mill's post... You're in LA? Wtf would you need a fur coat for, other than to take up room in a closet? Make a big deal out of it; point out the hypocrisy of the leather belt, shoes, wallet, etc. Then get rid of the coat. Use it as a future bargaining chip vs. the hubby when it's time for another compromise.
 

Squisher

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I refuse to wear anything at all because if you wear natural fibers then you have to take into account all the animals killed during their displacement of their natural habitat to grow the natural fibers and synthetics are just evil and polluting all of our lives.

BTW-it's starting to get chilly.
 

BoomerD

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You do have something of a problem, since your hubby is against fur...Hmmm, maybe try something like wearing it nekkid...let him FEEL the fur...:D

As for the pics you posted...It looks good on you...but then again, so would that pizza...;) WOOHOO!!
 

Vegitto

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It depends. If the animal was abused, ie, skinned alive for it's fur or slammed to death while it's still an infant, I don't want it! If the animal was treated well and died in a gentle, or at least not horrifying manner, I'm all for it.