With the new Swine Flu hitting mexico + US do you find it ethical to test out new drugs on animals? not just lab rats but maybe monkeys or other animals
What are your thoughts on animal testing?
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I have always been in favor of testing new drugs on animals. How else can we be sure they are safe for humans?
well, if it's anything like those dam chickens that play tic tac toe, i have no problems with it. i always wondered how well they'd do on the math part.
Exactly. We should be testing all animanls. Everyone knows a retarded chicken is going to taste worse than a smart one.
shortylickens
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If the PETA people wanna volunteer themselves for testing I'm OK with that.
In the meantime, we need to use animals.
In the meantime, we need to use animals.
destrekor
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I'm in favor of testing something however they want to test it. Take a bunch of prisoners with life sentences and no parole and test things on them? Go for it. Test it on pigs, rats, primates, dogs, cats... go for it.
This is our place bitches. Other animals had their chance to rule the world, failed, and now we have the power. We'll use it, so that we know we have stuff safe to use for us. The only testing I'm less comfortable approving is testing on dogs, because I love dogs. Awesome animals. But so many rot in the animal shelters, and so many strays... take the worst, frail dogs, and test.
And not blind testing either... I mean, scientists have their methods, and they approach the testing in the best possible manner. It's not like they subject animals to terrible things on a constant basis. Typically fairly confident something will work as planned, but gotta make sure. Just blindly throwing everything at an animal and killing it, or harming it in such a manner it has to be put down, is a waste of resources.
This is our place bitches. Other animals had their chance to rule the world, failed, and now we have the power. We'll use it, so that we know we have stuff safe to use for us. The only testing I'm less comfortable approving is testing on dogs, because I love dogs. Awesome animals. But so many rot in the animal shelters, and so many strays... take the worst, frail dogs, and test.
And not blind testing either... I mean, scientists have their methods, and they approach the testing in the best possible manner. It's not like they subject animals to terrible things on a constant basis. Typically fairly confident something will work as planned, but gotta make sure. Just blindly throwing everything at an animal and killing it, or harming it in such a manner it has to be put down, is a waste of resources.
0roo0roo
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i'm all for that.
some of the activist tactics are disgusting though.
http://www.latimes.com/news/lo...9apr13,0,5129041.story
"As soon as he heard his car alarm blare and saw the orange glow through his bedroom window, UCLA neuroscientist J. David Jentsch knew that his fears had come true.
His 2006 Volvo, parked next to his Westside house, had been set ablaze and destroyed in an early morning attack March 7. Jentsch had become the latest victim in a series of violent incidents targeting University of California scientists who use animals in biomedical research.
"
really bad in the uk where they harass the researchers, follow them home etc. even the workers building research facilities in the uk sometimes have to wear masks etc so that these people can't hunt them down and harass them. they are basically terrorists these days.
0roo0roo
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http://www.adl.org/learn/ext_us/ecoterrorism.asp
http://www.guardian.co.uk/educ...ducation.animalwelfare
and thats the level the brits have to go to because they have been soft on the groups and let them run amuck
http://www.guardian.co.uk/educ...ducation.animalwelfare
and thats the level the brits have to go to because they have been soft on the groups and let them run amuck
Red Squirrel
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I'm against it. first off, it's often inaccurate, and second of all, why should we drag them into our own problems, and third, there are plenty of murderers, child molesters, animal abusers etc out there that we should be testing on.
Procter and gamble is probably one of the worse companies for this. 99% of their tests are useless, such as seeing how much oven cleaner it takes to blind 100 rabbits, and other crazy tests like that. Iams is not any better, they slice cats open while still alive. This torture has to stop, when there's perfectly good humans out there who deserve it better then innocent animals.
Procter and gamble is probably one of the worse companies for this. 99% of their tests are useless, such as seeing how much oven cleaner it takes to blind 100 rabbits, and other crazy tests like that. Iams is not any better, they slice cats open while still alive. This torture has to stop, when there's perfectly good humans out there who deserve it better then innocent animals.
As long as they aren't testing on endangered species and are responsible about where they acquire their test subjects, I have no problem with it.
If you are truly dead set against animals being used for lab testing, volunteer to take their place.
alkemyst
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Well in reality that usually doesn't scale the same so much.
I am for animal testing, but not for animal testing because it's just convenient. I am also not for retarded experiments like putting acid in an animal's eye to see how long it takes for sight to be lost (war research).
That said, I think making one a research subject as a form of capital punishment would be a great deterrent to crime.
Most have no idea what the issues with animal testing are. They think it's some animal nazi thinking testing the final formulary on a rabbit has them bombing a research lab.
What's really sad is as much as the US and other major country's are faulted, the third world is far less humane.
alkemyst
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P&G is Iams parent company. http://www.iamscruelty.com/FAQ.asp
I would never buy an Iams product. They have also had to recall foods...
Red Squirrel
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