What are your thoughs on the Mark of the Beast?

Puffnstuff

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I was thinking about this as I've heard it all my life. Some preachers have even gone so far as to attempt to identify the exact nature of it. I've heard that it might be a laser etched tattoo in the skin but that would be easily copied if someone could get a clear picture of it. The bible offers very few specifics about it except that it clearly defines the location of the device, back of the right hand or forehead, and implies that it governs socioeconomics at the end of the age. No man can buy or sell save he that hath the mark.

Then I considered how long we've had RFID which contains information and obtains the power to run from a radio signal broadcast and NFC which is found in most cell phones and smart watches. Modern society has cooled to the presence of surveillance with an ever increasing camera population everywhere we go and has been embraced in our homes.

Since I do not know exactly what it might be I was hoping to elicit some ideas from other people who might help to shed some light on this topic for me. Since it will be firmly attached to a person there must be some type of anchoring that will not cause infection at the attachment point and it must be durable enough to withstand everyday activities without breaking or becoming detached. What are your thoughts on this?
 

renz20003

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The book of revelation is a bunch of garbage put in by early Christians with the intent to control people.
 

sandorski

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It is unnecessary. Our technology is already at a point where having to Mark or Chip someone for that purpose is no longer required.
 

Puffnstuff

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Could it also be possible that a person chooses to get the mark as an act or a pledge of allegiance? People are stealing identities and placing scamming devices on legitimate electronics such as atm's to obtain customers card numbers and pins so the current banking system is not secure by any means. The mandatory chipped cards that were issued last fall will still allow someone to steal the card and use it without requiring the use of a pin.
 

sandorski

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Could it also be possible that a person chooses to get the mark as an act or a pledge of allegiance? People are stealing identities and placing scamming devices on legitimate electronics such as atm's to obtain customers card numbers and pins so the current banking system is not secure by any means. The mandatory chipped cards that were issued last fall will still allow someone to steal the card and use it without requiring the use of a pin.

A Mark could also be faked. What I was talking about in my previous reply are things superior to a Mark, finger print scans, retina scans, facial pattern scans, etc etc. They are much more difficult to fake than Marks or Chips.
 
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Linux23

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OP I've been curious about this my whole life. Unfortunately I don't think you're going to get any serious responses in this clown car.
 

FeuerFrei

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Obviously the mark signals your allegiance to the Beast - hence its name. A world so intolerant that they want to make it hard to carry on commerce if you aren't "one of us." Probably would consist of a RFID implant.
 

Puffnstuff

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I appreciate all of the responses so please keep them coming. I've considered that an individuals biometrics are unique to them which to me seems like the logical foundation for any person centric identification scheme.
 

edro

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Radio waves are the mark.
Every human being on the planet is smothered in them.
Your only chance is to build a Faraday cage and live out the rest your days inside.

Or, you can simply grow up and quit thinking about fairy tales.
 

IronWing

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OP I've been curious about this my whole life. Unfortunately I don't think you're going to get any serious responses in this clown car.
What would a serious response to this question look like?
 

Puffnstuff

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I like to hear from other people even if I don't agree with them. Group think occurs when a person refuses to expose themselves to new thinking or ideas and in turn protects the old mental set refusing to accept any data that goes against it. I'm progressive in my thinking in many ways so I'm interested in what other people have to say.
 

SlitheryDee

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I think there is no mark of the beast. I think we'll eventually be ensnared in such a complex and pervasive web of technology that our every move can be followed if it is so desired, but that's just inevitability, not prophecy.
 

Markbnj

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Scholars recently retranslated the original Greek, Hebrew and Aramaic and determined that the words they had thought read "mark of the beast" actually mean "a ticket to ride."
 

GagHalfrunt

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Scholars recently retranslated the original Greek, Hebrew and Aramaic and determined that the words they had thought read "mark of the beast" actually mean "a ticket to ride."

So the Beatles were Satanic? I KNEW IT!!!!!
 

Ruptga

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OP, Revelation isn't even taken seriously by many that take the rest of the Bible seriously. Martin Luther tried to exclude it from the canon, and there was disagreement about its value even in the early Church.

Most likely it was just a letter to a group of Christians in one part of the world at one time, and was written in code so that its actual message wouldn't be obvious to their enemies. The number of the beast is a clear reference to Nero, and the emperor at the time of its writing was probably Domitian, who was also a totalitarian asshole. The memory of the first Jewish rebellion was fresh in everyone minds, which was the one where their last temple was destroyed and upwards of a million Jews died. It's completely unsurprising that an apocalyptic tyrant was the running theme.

And now that I've put a couple minutes into an actual reply, I notice this and this. You've already made up your mind and only made this thread to argue (albeit in the nicest way) with others that have made up their minds. You made yourself out to be a humble truthseeker but you're just another evangelist. Classy.
 
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I think its an interesting old story that oddly still has relevance today. See Nazis tattooing Jews to track them like cattle, see the various privacy concerns on these forums about mobile devices, google or windows 10, would any of us allow an implanted chip to monitor our health that reports to our employer & insurer, would anyone opt into a skin dye that identifies you incase you have to prove your identity?
 

Puffnstuff

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To be honest the modern church has lost its first love. God has been replaced by Mammon and they certainly are prospering monetarily aren't they? No man can have two masters for you will love the one and hate the other. The Word of Faith movement completely defies sound doctrine as people want their ears tickled by hearing all manner of pleasing garbage rather than the truth. With a gospel of monetary prosperity everyone is focused on material wealth blinding them to their purpose. All things considered I believe that we would be better off as a society if all religion were to be declared subversive and banned.