What are these high temperatures?

[snowcake]

Hello,


I recently build a new pc. The problem is that some temperatures are too high. I am worried.


Temperatures after playing Unreal Tournament 3 for 25 minutes with a room temperature of 26 Celsius.

Temperatures after playing Unreal Tournament 3 for 20 minutes with a room temparture of 32 Celsius. (Normally it is never that warm in my room.)

There are 2 temperatures sensors which are bothering me. In Hwmonitor they are called TMPIN0 and TMPIN2. The bios system temperature is equal as TMPIN2. After some research i think it is the northbridge.


But what is TMPIN0? AIDA64 says it is the CPU. But that doesn't seem right because the temperature of TMPIN0 is higher than the CPU-cores and CPU-package.
The bios says the CPU temperature is equal as the CPU-cores and CPU-package which are displayed in HWmonitor and AIDA64.


When i going to stress my CPU, then the TMPIN0 temperature is not rising.
But when i stress my GPU, then the TMPIN0 temperature is rising. The TMPIN2(nortbridge?) is also rising since the northbridge is located close to the graphics-card.




Is 70 Degrees Celsius for the northbridge too high?
I found the “Maximium Case Temperature” for the Intel H61 Chipset: 111 Celsius.
Link
But what is the “Maximium Case Temperature”? Has it to do something with Tcase?




I also found the Tcase and Tjmax for the Z68 chipset. [FONT=arial, helvetica, liberation sans, dejavu sans condensed, sans-serif]The TCase for the set is 104°C and the Tjmax is 108°C. Link[/FONT]
[FONT=arial, helvetica, liberation sans, dejavu sans condensed, sans-serif]As much as i can find, The H61 and Z68 are both 65 nm and have a max TDP of 6.1W. They are the same series. Is this also the case with the Tcase and Tjmax?[/FONT]
[FONT=arial, helvetica, liberation sans, dejavu sans condensed, sans-serif]Link[/FONT]


[FONT=arial, helvetica, liberation sans, dejavu sans condensed, sans-serif]But what is TMPIN0 for a sensor?[/FONT]
[FONT=arial, helvetica, liberation sans, dejavu sans condensed, sans-serif]My bios is showing only 2 temperatures: The cpu and the System Temperature. (Nortbridge Intel H61)[/FONT]


[FONT=arial, helvetica, liberation sans, dejavu sans condensed, sans-serif]Should i be worried about the temperatures?[/FONT]




My system:
Intel pentium G860 Boxed
MSI-H61MA-E35 (B3) Intel H61 chipset
8GB ram, 2 dimms
Seageate Barracuda 7200 1TB
Fractial Design Core 1000
Antel vp350P
AMD Radeon HD4850






(Sorry for bad english. It isn´t my first language.)

 

[snowcake]

I have played Unreal Tournament for about 10 minutes With a room temperature of 25 Celsius.
I did that because i wanted to feel how hot the heatsink of the chipset was. While i played, the temperatures rises. When the temperatures where high enough: 96 Celsius for TMPIN0 and 95 Celsius for TMPIN2 (the bios says it is system temperature and i think it is the chipset) in hwmonitor. I put of the sidepanel of the case. There is a fan connected to the sidepanel, but i let it connected to the mainboard.
Well, the Heatsink from the chipset doesn't feel like 95 degrees celsius. I can just touch it.




But now it happpens....


Because the sidepanel-fan can't do a proper airflow to the inner case anymore, the temperature of TMPIN0 is rising to 120 degrees! As you can see it here in the picture below. TMPIN2 stays at 95 degrees... And suddenly my processor downclocks to 1600mhz instead of 3ghz. The vcore is also dropping to 0.952 V instead of 1.68 V. For the information: I disabled all energy-saving settings in the bios.

The processor downclocking has nothing to do with TMPIN2 because i had more times these temperatures on TMPIN2 and the processor didn't downclock then. I had once TMPIN0 on 100 celsius and the processor didn't downclock, but it did downclock if the temperature of TMPIN0 exeeds 100/104 degrees celsius. Just as now.


But why downclocks the processor if the temperature is so high on TMPIN0? And what is TMPIN0? The cpu-cores and cpu-package and intel PCH are all under 60 degrees celsius.
The tcase of my processor is 69.1C and the Tj. Max is according to Core Temp 102C. So it is well below these temperatures...


What is even more strange, is that the temperatures for TMPIN0 is not shown in the bios and MSI Controlcenter. The bios and MSI controlcenter shows only two temperatures: CPU temp and System-temp which is equal to TMPIN2.


By the way... All monitorings programs are wrong about the +12v +5v.


But the crazy thing is this: The temperature of TMPIN0 is only rising if i stress my GPU. But when i stress the cpu then the TMPIN0 temperature is not rising at all, it stays the same as idle. But when TMPIN0 exeeds 100/104 Celsius my processor is getting downclocked to 1600mhz instead of 3ghz en the vcore is dropping to 0,952v instead of 1.68v.


What does this mean??? Why is TMPIN0 linked with my processor? Faulty motherboard?

 

[hinsert]

I'm just new here, because I was googling for the TMPIN0 value, which is much hotter than the other temperatures according to HWMonitor, just like your problem.

According to a Guru3D topic, it seems to be the socket temperature.

BTW my values are way less critical than yours.

 

[snowcake]

I'm just new here, because I was googling for the TMPIN0 value, which is much hotter than the other temperatures according to HWMonitor, just like your problem.

According to a Guru3D topic, it seems to be the socket temperature.

BTW my values are way less critical than yours.

But the crazy thing is this: The temperature of TMPIN0 is only rising if i stress my GPU. But when i stress the cpu then the TMPIN0 temperature is not rising at all, it stays the same as idle. So how could TMPIN0 be on the socket if the temperature only raises if the GPU get stressed. When i stress the CPU, TMPIN0 is not getting higher. it should be the other way around. But the strange thing is: When the temperature of TMPIN0 get around 100/120C the processor downclocks from 3ghz to 1600 mhz.

 

[sm625]

Well something has to be getting the math wrong on the conversion of TMPIN0 from "sensor reading" into "degrees C". There aint no way it is running at 120C.

There may be no logic or linearity to it at all. When it thinks it is 120C, it may not even be twice as hot as when it reads 60C. But it probably does scale with temperature in some way.

One of my computers reads over 100C like this, and not a single part on the mobo is hot, so I just lol and write it off.

 

[snowcake]

Well something has to be getting the math wrong on the conversion of TMPIN0 from "sensor reading" into "degrees C". There aint no way it is running at 120C.

There may be no logic or linearity to it at all. When it thinks it is 120C, it may not even be twice as hot as when it reads 60C. But it probably does scale with temperature in some way.

One of my computers reads over 100C like this, and not a single part on the mobo is hot, so I just lol and write it off.

I touched parts of the motherboard, but nothing is really that hot as the temperatures suggest. But....

The cpu can clock back during load. It was when i was playing Unreal Tournament and Furmark. And it only happens when the TMPIN0 temperature was getting in the 100-120C range.
This i simply observed... It happened more than once.

And i disabled al the powersaving features in the bios.

 

[snowcake]

There are more people with the same problem as me. They have the same motherboard: MSI H61M-E35 B3

I translated it to english.

http://translate.google.nl/translat...tury-t?usg=ALkJrhjZw43IPZ2otMIZVUZ0zprsIM3vFg


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