What are some good corporate backup solutions

[HeroOfPellinor]

Our 20/40GB SCSI tape drive just died. Rather than just immediatly get a replacement, I thought I'd see what's new with backup. Is tape still the best or are there better solutions price-wise and performance-wise?

Just curious what other people are doing for small business backup.

 

[Electric Amish]

Tape is still best.

 

[conjur]

floppy disks 4eva!

 

[loup garou]

Originally posted by: Electric Amish
Tape is still best.

 

[DBL]

We use DLT and LTO Ultarium. The new Ultarium tapes are 200/400GB. We just got a 23 tape changer. So, that's 4.6/9.2 TB of storage.

 

[Ogg]

Originally posted by: werk

Originally posted by: Electric Amish
Tape is still best.

SuperDLT

 

[TommyVercetti]

AIT 2

 

[blakeatwork]

Originally posted by: DBL
We use DLT and LTO Ultarium. The new Ultarium tapes are 200/400GB. We just got a 23 tape changer. So, that's 4.6/9.2 TB of storage.

Guh....

I can do all my backups on less then 4 GB...

 

[GT1999]

Originally posted by: blakeatwork

Originally posted by: DBL
We use DLT and LTO Ultarium. The new Ultarium tapes are 200/400GB. We just got a 23 tape changer. So, that's 4.6/9.2 TB of storage.

Guh....

I can do all my backups on less then 4 GB...

DVD-R

 

[Ameesh]

i prefer the power of prayer, when i pray every day, g-d makes sure that i dont have a hardware failure. you should pray more so your hardware doesnt break.

 

[HeroOfPellinor]

Check out the bottom of the page. IDE is only slightly slower than SCSI. I guess it makes sense since the tape mechanism is really the limiting factor.

Any reason not to go with IDE?

Dell Backups

 

[HeroOfPellinor]

Originally posted by: Ameesh
i prefer the power of prayer, when i pray every day, g-d makes sure that i dont have a hardware failure. you should pray more so your hardware doesnt break.

I'll pray you get some better jokes.

 

[Ameesh]

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor

Originally posted by: Ameesh
i prefer the power of prayer, when i pray every day, g-d makes sure that i dont have a hardware failure. you should pray more so your hardware doesnt break.

I'll pray you get some better jokes.

without prayer we are all lost, its not a laughing matter. i'll pray for you as you dont seem to take it seriously.

 

[blakeatwork]

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Check out the bottom of the page. IDE is only slightly slower than SCSI. I guess it makes sense since the tape mechanism is really the limiting factor.

Any reason not to go with IDE?

Dell Backups

I generally set most of my small business clients up with a Seagate Internal IDE Travan Drive, with 5 tapes, and Veritas BackUp Exec. Usually runs them around $2000 (the software is half the cost), but the first time they have a major system crash, and they're back up and running in less than an hour, they're singing my praises... It's like insurance, without a deductible..

 

[FreshPrince]

SDLT is solid, however, the neweg vxa tape libraries are nice.

otho..nowadays, storage is cheap, and M$ shadow copy service is damn nice...expecially if you can have it stored at another location

veritas backup exec is the software we use, but there are others out there.

 

[ITJunkie]

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Check out the bottom of the page. IDE is only slightly slower than SCSI. I guess it makes sense since the tape mechanism is really the limiting factor.

Any reason not to go with IDE?

Dell Backups

Personally, I would stick with SCSI. Listed stats vs. real world stats seldom seem to coincide and SCSI should give you a steadier throughput rate. FWIW

 

[FreshPrince]

Originally posted by: blakeatwork

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Check out the bottom of the page. IDE is only slightly slower than SCSI. I guess it makes sense since the tape mechanism is really the limiting factor.

Any reason not to go with IDE?

Dell Backups

I generally set most of my small business clients up with a Seagate Internal IDE Travan Drive, with 5 tapes, and Veritas BackUp Exec. Usually runs them around $2000 (the software is half the cost), but the first time they have a major system crash, and they're back up and running in less than an hour, they're singing my praises... It's like insurance, without a deductible..

how do you get a crashed system up and running in less than an hour with veritas? Isn't restore from tape slow? now to mention....veritas is not ghost...unless there's a new feature in veritas backup exec that works like ghost

 

[blakeatwork]

Originally posted by: FreshPrince

Originally posted by: blakeatwork

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Check out the bottom of the page. IDE is only slightly slower than SCSI. I guess it makes sense since the tape mechanism is really the limiting factor.

Any reason not to go with IDE?

Dell Backups

I generally set most of my small business clients up with a Seagate Internal IDE Travan Drive, with 5 tapes, and Veritas BackUp Exec. Usually runs them around $2000 (the software is half the cost), but the first time they have a major system crash, and they're back up and running in less than an hour, they're singing my praises... It's like insurance, without a deductible..

how do you get a crashed system up and running in less than an hour with veritas? Isn't restore from tape slow? now to mention....veritas is not ghost...unless there's a new feature in veritas backup exec that works like ghost

Sorry, just to clarify a little..

They keep all system Configurations Ghosted, and all critical data backed up on tape... so, it IS a two-part process, but still simple to implement, relatively cheap over the long run, and easy to restore..

 

[Cable God]

Originally posted by: FreshPrince

Originally posted by: blakeatwork

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Check out the bottom of the page. IDE is only slightly slower than SCSI. I guess it makes sense since the tape mechanism is really the limiting factor.

Any reason not to go with IDE?

Dell Backups

I generally set most of my small business clients up with a Seagate Internal IDE Travan Drive, with 5 tapes, and Veritas BackUp Exec. Usually runs them around $2000 (the software is half the cost), but the first time they have a major system crash, and they're back up and running in less than an hour, they're singing my praises... It's like insurance, without a deductible..

how do you get a crashed system up and running in less than an hour with veritas? Isn't restore from tape slow? now to mention....veritas is not ghost...unless there's a new feature in veritas backup exec that works like ghost

It's by Symantec. Called V2i Protector. I (we) use the server version for servers, the workstation version for workstations. All are backed up to our 3TB SAN. Complete server and workstation imaging WHILE not taking it down. Servers and workstations stay up and available whilst being backed up, all from a central console, and it has a scheduler built in. Check it out.

 

[sharq]

I'm a newbie when it comes to corporate backup solutions. I understand where a tape drive may be good if you've got more than 10gb worth of data to backup, especially if it approaches 100gb or a TB. But I would like to hear from the ppl who have done corporate backup, if a smaller company needs a backup solution for approximately 10gb worth of data, which would be better and recommended, DVDR or tape?
Thanks.

Sharq

 

[AWhackWhiteBoy]

http://www.4tress.com/features.html

 

[Sideswipe001]

We use a 20 GB Travan Tape drive backup.

We aren't too big, so it mainly just backs up data, and not images. So far never had restore. *crosses fingers*

 

[FreshPrince]

Originally posted by: cablegod

Originally posted by: FreshPrince

Originally posted by: blakeatwork

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Check out the bottom of the page. IDE is only slightly slower than SCSI. I guess it makes sense since the tape mechanism is really the limiting factor.

Any reason not to go with IDE?

Dell Backups

I generally set most of my small business clients up with a Seagate Internal IDE Travan Drive, with 5 tapes, and Veritas BackUp Exec. Usually runs them around $2000 (the software is half the cost), but the first time they have a major system crash, and they're back up and running in less than an hour, they're singing my praises... It's like insurance, without a deductible..

how do you get a crashed system up and running in less than an hour with veritas? Isn't restore from tape slow? now to mention....veritas is not ghost...unless there's a new feature in veritas backup exec that works like ghost

It's by Symantec. Called V2i Protector. I (we) use the server version for servers, the workstation version for workstations. All are backed up to our 3TB SAN. Complete server and workstation imaging WHILE not taking it down. Servers and workstations stay up and available whilst being backed up, all from a central console, and it has a scheduler built in. Check it out.

that is awesome! I didn't even know about that, will definately check it out! thx!

 

[JackBurton]

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor

Originally posted by: Ameesh
i prefer the power of prayer, when i pray every day, g-d makes sure that i dont have a hardware failure. you should pray more so your hardware doesnt break.

I'll pray you get some better jokes.

There is nothing funny about the Lord. Ameesh is right, the Lord will store all your data for you. If your server crashes, he may not give you the data then, but he will surely give it to you once you reach heaven.

 

[MplsBob]

I once had an electrical engineer absolutely insist, vehemently so, that all I had to do for corporate backup was to print out all of the files.

Honest, that's what he said.

I haven't changed his intent even an iota.


Summing up in Latin, "Res ipsa loquitur.". .."it speaks for itself".


BobM
Software Guy, 34 year's experience