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What are my top 2-3 choices for dedicated hosting?

JMorton6

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Start with something simple and then scale way way up. Who's really good? I need amazing, lightning fast support from people who KNOW what they're doing inside out. Must be extremely fast, extremely reliable, etc. What are my options? 🙂

P.S. Mods, sorry if this is the wrong forum - I went through the list and it doesn't seem like there's a better one, because this doesn't really belong in networking.
 
Hi

I work for Cybercon.com, who has a SAS70-II certified hosting facility with 4 direct backbone connections (meshed via BGP) in St. Louis. Up until Amazon.com bought Woot.com, we were Woot.com's host.

We have a 20,000 Square Foot facility and have been in business for 14 years. We're not necessarily the cheapest, but for the service we provide (true 24x7 tech support) it's a good deal and we are competitive and match prices (if it's a truly similar deal).

We can do everything from colocation, dedicated servers, app hosting, and virtual servers. We offer VM's on vmWare, XEN, Hyper-V, and KVM.

I'll PM you to find out more about what you need. We have some deals/coupons I can use to get you in the door for cheap.
 
I think Rackspace will meet all your criteria too.

Do I go cloud or managed? I will need this thing to host tons of media-rich content, and most importantly host our mobile apps.

Oh, and I know that this kind of a wild guess question, but mobile social networking apps that are heavy on images and video for example, for say 500,000 users what would you guys say your wild guess would be, for the monthly hosting bill? Just a ballpark. Or similarly, approximately how many users of say Instagram could you host per each $1000/mo spent on hosting?
 
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Do I go cloud or managed? I will need this thing to host tons of media-rich content, and most importantly host our mobile apps.

Oh, and I know that this kind of a wild guess question, but mobile social networking apps that are heavy on images and video for example, for say 500,000 users what would you guys say your wild guess would be, for the monthly hosting bill? Just a ballpark. Or similarly, approximately how many users of say Instagram could you host per each $1000/mo spent on hosting?

You could go cloud and managed. Or cloud and un-mananged. Or non-cloud and managed. Or non-cloud and un-managed.

Cloud hosting is just a method of computing. It's essentially a way of providing redundancy and ease of access. For instance, if you get a 'cloud' based virtual server, it can still be unmanaged. The hosting company will provide you with a dedicated virtual server hosted on the cloud, but it's all yours to manage once you get logged in. Even though it's hosted on the cloud, the provider may still bill you for tech support related to everyday tasks such as adding users, chasing/cleaning viruses, etc.

I could provide you with a dedicated physical server, such as a dual quad core Xeon system with 4GB of ram and 200GB of hard drives in a raid1. Or I could provide you with a dedicated virtual server, hosted on the cloud, and still give you dual quad core speeds with 4GB of ram and 200GB of hard drive space. I could install Windows Server on each one, and when you remote in, you could barely tell the difference. The catch is, the dedicated physical server is a bare metal install, and if that server dies, unless you have backups, you need to reinstall and start from scratch. On the other hand, the dedicated virtual server is hosted on 'the cloud' which employs many redundancies. For instance, our vmWare cloud servers enjoy High Availability, Fault Tolerance, High Speed redundant NAS Storage (15krpm sas drives in Raid6), etc.

Also, it's going to be a completely useless shot in the dark to ask how many users you can support with $X amount of money. There are so many factors involved that it's almost impossible to calculate.

First, you could spend $300 on a server and the rest ($700) on bandwidth. What if that gets you plenty of bandwidth but the server can't cut it? Or what if you spend $700 on a server, but you don't buy enough bandwidth to keep up?

Hosting companies are going to have different pricing structures. You might find that one company charges more for a server, but less for bandwidth. Or vice versa.

How do you calculate how much load each 'user' puts on the system? What factors are involved with the calcuation of 'load'? CPU utilization? How much storage space they take up? How much bandwidth they consume? Are all users going to have similar usage patterns?

500 users could post pics that get little traffic. 1 user could post something that gets on reddit and uses more resources (bandwidth, cpu utilization) than all the first 500 users combined.

500 users could post a few pics that use very little storage. 1 user could post as many as he possible can using up twice as much storage as the first 500 users combined.

Or we could launch similar sites. However, my 100 users might use more resources than 2000 of your users.

Keep all of this in mind. Reply to my PM if you want to talk through this.
 
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Do I go cloud or managed? I will need this thing to host tons of media-rich content, and most importantly host our mobile apps.

Oh, and I know that this kind of a wild guess question, but mobile social networking apps that are heavy on images and video for example, for say 500,000 users what would you guys say your wild guess would be, for the monthly hosting bill? Just a ballpark. Or similarly, approximately how many users of say Instagram could you host per each $1000/mo spent on hosting?

You'd have to ask the host, but for bandwidth you might want a 100mb pipe

Like tech pointed out...lots of money should be towards bandwidth. A dedicated 100mb pipe should cost about $700~ from a decent provider.
 
been with Softlayer for years, would recommend them.

Both Amazon's and Microsoft's Cloud services are pretty good, but not all apps are suited for the cloud architecture though, sometimes a good dedicated box is the perfect solution.

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After reading your reply, I would actually recommend the cloud based solutions. Content Delivery Networks are the bees-knees when it comes to storing/distributing a lot of media.
The best part is you only pay for what you use, you dont have to buy a huge NAS hard drive and hope you will fill it up to recoup your costs. You pay on how much you use at any given time, the cost scales up and down with your usage.
 
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You'd have to ask the host, but for bandwidth you might want a 100mb pipe

Like tech pointed out...lots of money should be towards bandwidth. A dedicated 100mb pipe should cost about $700~ from a decent provider.

Yep. And those costs will vary. Our 'premium bandwidth' will cost about $1400 a month for un-metered 100Mbps uplink. This is because we have top tier 100% uptime (not 99.99999%) SLA/QOS agreements with our upstream providers, and we pay a premium for that. We also have some uplinks/routing preferences we can configure that lower the cost. However, ALL of our uplinks are 100Mbps, but you can start with a usage commitment of only 1Mbps. You'll just be billed for overages if you use more than 1Mbps.

The nice thing about our Virtual Servers is that since it's all virtual, it's easier for us to throttle bandwidth on the virtual switches. With our physical ports, we typically don't throttle bandwidth because it adds additional cpu load to our switches and in times of high usage, it can have an adverse effect.

Our virtual servers come with un-metered virtual ports ranging from 10-40Mbps. Most single servers will be hard pressed to actually use more than 40Mbps constantly. The nice thing about this, is you get a flat limit, say 20Mbps, but it's capped at 20Mbps. You can fully utilize that 20Mbps all day and night with worrying about going over 20Mbps and being billed.

Vivi, if you are a reseller, we should talk. Like I said, we're a serious hosting company. We hosted woot.com (woot offs!) for years, as well as banking systems (one of the largest debit card transaction engines in the midwest), a few foreign governments (including Pakistan!), and thousands of other servers. For several years, one of the root DNS servers was in our facility as well.
 
Another option that I recommend, especially if you are wanting to 'pay as you use' (cpu per hour, etc). I would check out www.airVM.com They are hosted in our facility. They have a 400 square foot cage setup with a high density cloud infrastructure. 3 massive Juniper Routers (in failover) with all kinds of traffic mitigation modules, 10G switching, highly redundant NetApp storage units, and a very elaborate vmWare cloud setup. Josh, the brain behind it, spent years putting it together and it's running very smooth. He has a very attractive pricing model as well.
 
ServInt. By far the best hosting company I've ever dealt with and mind boggling service.

I'm not sure if you're looking for those discount hosting companies, this is not one of them. Most of them over promise and under deliver. That is a huge trend in hosting right now.

It does not make economic sense to have 10 dollar a month hosting and also have awesome customer service and uptime.
 
Yep. And those costs will vary. Our 'premium bandwidth' will cost about $1400 a month for un-metered 100Mbps uplink. This is because we have top tier 100% uptime (not 99.99999%) SLA/QOS agreements with our upstream providers, and we pay a premium for that. We also have some uplinks/routing preferences we can configure that lower the cost. However, ALL of our uplinks are 100Mbps, but you can start with a usage commitment of only 1Mbps. You'll just be billed for overages if you use more than 1Mbps.

The nice thing about our Virtual Servers is that since it's all virtual, it's easier for us to throttle bandwidth on the virtual switches. With our physical ports, we typically don't throttle bandwidth because it adds additional cpu load to our switches and in times of high usage, it can have an adverse effect.

Our virtual servers come with un-metered virtual ports ranging from 10-40Mbps. Most single servers will be hard pressed to actually use more than 40Mbps constantly. The nice thing about this, is you get a flat limit, say 20Mbps, but it's capped at 20Mbps. You can fully utilize that 20Mbps all day and night with worrying about going over 20Mbps and being billed.

Vivi, if you are a reseller, we should talk. Like I said, we're a serious hosting company. We hosted woot.com (woot offs!) for years, as well as banking systems (one of the largest debit card transaction engines in the midwest), a few foreign governments (including Pakistan!), and thousands of other servers. For several years, one of the root DNS servers was in our facility as well.

We aren't a reseller actually, we have a few racks in Chicago running a cloud based VPS solution (the same as VPS.NET actually), running XEN...we own the hardware, lease the cages (power, bandwidth, etc).

Your bandwidth pricing is about what i've read...we got lucky in a Tier II facility, and snagged a few full cages, 20 amps + 100 MB dedicated drops for $700 a month. They've been rock solid the 3.5 years we've been in the facility...albeit maintenance.
 
Hi

I work for Cybercon.com, who has a SAS70-II certified hosting facility with 4 direct backbone connections (meshed via BGP) in St. Louis. Up until Amazon.com bought Woot.com, we were Woot.com's host.

We have a 20,000 Square Foot facility and have been in business for 14 years. We're not necessarily the cheapest, but for the service we provide (true 24x7 tech support) it's a good deal and we are competitive and match prices (if it's a truly similar deal).

We can do everything from colocation, dedicated servers, app hosting, and virtual servers. We offer VM's on vmWare, XEN, Hyper-V, and KVM.

I'll PM you to find out more about what you need. We have some deals/coupons I can use to get you in the door for cheap.

So you're why I could never get a Bag of Crap.
 
I work for Cybercon.com, who has a SAS70-II certified hosting facility with 4 direct backbone connections (meshed via BGP) in St. Louis. Up until Amazon.com bought Woot.com, we were Woot.com's host.

I would tell your boss to redesign your website. I would never guess that site is not run by a dude in his basement based on the design.
 
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