What are ghosts? What are they made up of

[paadness]

Ghosts exist and so don't reply if ur a non believer of ghosts.

They can pass through walls, control a human, do bad things and do good things too.

They can change thier looks into animals and humans yet we cannot see them or feel them.

Ghosts also have societies but where.

My house was infected by a ghost, totally harmless. Im sitting in the room and suddenly the fan goes off and i get up to see the button off. Lights in the far end of the house would go ON as soon as the sun starts to set. Then the most annoying thing was scratches on the roof of the car.

So what ghosts made up of. Are they only energy particles but they do have brain and can do wierd things. I can't help myself. Some magicians use thier help but how do u control ghosts.

Do not confuse Ghosts with human souls, they both are different.

How would science prove thier existance when u cannot see them or feel them or wiegh them. What elements make up ghosts??

 

[RaiderJ]

If you can't see them, feel them, or weigh them, how do you know they exist?

 

[Gibsons]

It's usually a requirement of the positive claimant to provide evidence. Things get really messy if you go the other way.

 

[Howard]

Ghosts exist and so don't reply if ur a non believer of ghosts.

So you expect a real answer?

 

[Jassi]

Does science fail to answer?

- Science is not an answer book to life's questions. It is a technique used to get answers. If it fails for you, feel free to contribute by using science to find the answer for yourself. By the way, your first line shows how close minded you are so don't expect results. Science demands an open mind as well.

 

[Skyclad1uhm1]

If you cannot provide proof of the existance of ghosts you cannot ask people to determine what they are made of either. Unless you want a realistic answer like 'overactive imagination in combination with superstition and a disturbed brain'.

It is called 'supernatural' for a reason: If science has proof of the existence, has an explanation of how it works and what it consists of, and can reproduce it, it isn't supernatural anymore but either natural or science.

Edit: And the only possible explanation I can think of is residual energy once emitted by a person or animal that was there, which in certain circumstances (solar storm providing extra energy) may get triggered and 'reappears'. If it is it will fade over time as the energy lessens.

 

[Jeff7]

You're the one who's got the contacts - do your own research project. Ask for a piece of a ghost's clothing and run tests on it.

Be interesting to know how they can control whether or not they pass through an object, such as a wall, or control it, such as the fan switch you describe.
How would they learn to control this? I mean, if you had a tail grafted onto you tomorrow, and it were hooked to your spine, you would have the physical ability to control it, but you wouldn't really know how to do it. It'd kind of suck if they weren't too good at it, and started to pass through a wall, but then sneezed, and got stuck in the wall for awhile.

Also, can a ghost talk while it's passing through a wall? The vocal cords would need to be solid in order to move the air, so wouldn't they sort of "bump" into the wall?

How can a ghost see if it's transparent - light would pass right through its retinas. Otherwise you'd see two eyeballs floating in the air, a la Looney Tunes.

Many intriguing questions - for you to find the answers too.

 

[Valkerie]

Continue watching scary movies.
Play Starcraft a bit more, they have a lot of invisible units.
Play Ghost Recon.

By doing these three you will have a stronger definition of "ghosts."

In my opinion, ghosts are highly trained specialists, ordered to take on secret ops missions.

 

[RichPLS]

Ghosts are made up of the same materials that God is.

 

[PleasurePaulie64]

If you believe in the Supernatual, Ghosts are Spirts just like God, and Satan is.

Controlling ghosts as you like to call it is just going into Satanic stuff, where warlords sumon spirts and so forth. Don't be arrogant to things like this because we are very hidden in our happy western societies. If you go and see witchdoctors and in africa etc, there is some weird stuff going on in this world! If you ever get into stuff like that, you will expose yourself to some weird stuff

Science cannot explain Supernatual things with a formula like other things, that's why it takes "faith" to believe in things like this. Science will never be able to explain wonders that are beyond our thinking. If you believe in evolution, how did the first particle get there to start it all off? If you believe in God, who made God? Is God excempt from our time frame? How did by sheer chance complexitites of the human body and life come to be?

And in regards to arrogance, I think some scientists are the most - not all. Simply because if you cannot prove it, it does not exist. Not always true my good friends..

 

[Jassi]

Originally posted by: PleasurePaulie64
If you believe in the Supernatual, Ghosts are Spirts just like God, and Satan is.

Controlling ghosts as you like to call it is just going into Satanic stuff, where warlords sumon spirts and so forth. Don't be arrogant to things like this because we are very hidden in our happy western societies. If you go and see witchdoctors and in africa etc, there is some weird stuff going on in this world! If you ever get into stuff like that, you will expose yourself to some weird stuff

Science cannot explain Supernatual things with a formula like other things, that's why it takes "faith" to believe in things like this. Science will never be able to explain wonders that are beyond our thinking. If you believe in evolution, how did the first particle get there to start it all off? If you believe in God, who made God? Is God excempt from our time frame? How did by sheer chance complexitites of the human body and life come to be?

And in regards to arrogance, I think some scientists are the most - not all. Simply because if you cannot prove it, it does not exist. Not always true my good friends..

then don't bitch about science not being able to.

 

[Marthisdil]

Originally posted by: Jassi
Does science fail to answer?

- Science is not an answer book to life's questions. It is a technique used to get answers. If it fails for you, feel free to contribute by using science to find the answer for yourself. By the way, your first line shows how close minded you are so don't expect results. Science demands an open mind as well.

"God" is used when Science fails

 

[RampantAndroid]

Firstly, by your first stipulation, don't answer if you don't believe, makes this arguement moot.

Now, with that in mind: everything in this universe holds mass. A single proton has mass. Light has mass (hence, concentrated laser beams do exert a force, however minute)

Therefore, by this current line of thought (and fact) a ghost must have mass. Now, there is no way for a solid object to pass through another, for it to move through it without either being affected.

Thus, by your definition of a ghost, it cannot exist, save the supernatural, be it some diety or not. If you believe in God, heaven and hell, you can explain this. If there is a heaven and hell (and they arent in the clouds) they have no physical status, and since that exist, I suppose ghosts could too...but there is no way to do it by science. By what we know today (albiet we don't have such a great grasp on how the universe works) ghosts cannot be justified by science.

Almost the same as the question: quantify what composes our soul.

 

[unipidity]

Photons dont really have mass. Having just done an SR lecture course I can confidently say that no-one at all talks about relativistic mass anymore,but rather reaps the rewards of having a nice non-changing mass to go into invariants.

Anyway; such bollocks being posted in Highly Technical. Surely the random-crap board is a better place for something like this?

 

[RampantAndroid]

yeah, same reaction I had here...this isnt really technical

 

[Armitage]

Originally posted by: paadness
Ghosts exist and so don't reply if ur a non believer of ghosts.

If you aren't willing accept a negative answer your basic hypothesis, then this isn't science. In science, you have to assume nothing, except that which has already been proven by science - and even that is always open to challenge.

Geez, trouble shooting crap gets locked here in minutes, how has this crap survived all day :roll:

 

[Velk]

Originally posted by: paadness
They can change thier looks into animals and humans yet we cannot see them or feel them.

My mind balks at considering the possible experimental methods for veryifying this assertion.

 

[Sunner]

Originally posted by: Armitage

Originally posted by: paadness
Ghosts exist and so don't reply if ur a non believer of ghosts.

If you aren't willing except a negative answer your basic hypothesis, then this isn't science. In science, you have to assume nothing, except that which has already been proven by science - and even that is always open to challenge.

Geez, trouble shooting crap gets locked here in minutes, how has this crap survived all day :roll:

Maybe because the mods are laughing their asses off?
I find this thread hysterically funny

 

[Armitage]

Originally posted by: Sunner

Originally posted by: Armitage

Originally posted by: paadness
Ghosts exist and so don't reply if ur a non believer of ghosts.

If you aren't willing except a negative answer your basic hypothesis, then this isn't science. In science, you have to assume nothing, except that which has already been proven by science - and even that is always open to challenge.

Geez, trouble shooting crap gets locked here in minutes, how has this crap survived all day :roll:

Maybe because the mods are laughing their asses off?
I find this thread hysterically funny

Yep - I notice the OP hasn't chjecked in again either. I smell a troll.

 

[paadness]

Im not sitting all day long to check my thread replies. I just love ghosts, sad i can't find any

 

[MobiusPizza]

Originally posted by: unipidity
Photons dont really have mass. Having just done an SR lecture course I can confidently say that no-one at all talks about relativistic mass anymore,but rather reaps the rewards of having a nice non-changing mass to go into invariants.

Anyway; such bollocks being posted in Highly Technical. Surely the random-crap board is a better place for something like this?

Photons do have mass when they travels. But when they are at rest they have zero mass (zero rest mass).

Otherwise solar sails won't work

 

[DrPizza]

Originally posted by: paadness
Im not sitting all day long to check my thread replies. I just love ghosts, sad i can't find any

First, you have one in your house... then you claim you can't find one...

That pretty much summarizes what we all realize: you haven't solved the problem of what's causing the various phenomena occuring in your home. "Hmmm, I don't know what's causing this, so logically, it must be a ghost." Not very good logic skills. Much like the God of the Gap (not bashing religion here, except) - some religions take the unexplained "wow, science has no explanation for that, so it must be a sign from God." This seems to me to have been a much more severe problem a couple of hundred years ago when very few people had much if any scientific knowledge. At that time, it was "omg, did you see what she did? A witch! A witch! Burn her at the stake!" Most of us have progressed from that point to looking at real hard evidence before we jump to any hasty conclusions. AFAIK, there is absolutely NO real evidence of the existence of ghosts.

 

[f95toli]

Originally posted by: AnnihilatorX

Originally posted by: unipidity
Photons dont really have mass. Having just done an SR lecture course I can confidently say that no-one at all talks about relativistic mass anymore,but rather reaps the rewards of having a nice non-changing mass to go into invariants.

Anyway; such bollocks being posted in Highly Technical. Surely the random-crap board is a better place for something like this?

Photons do have mass when they travels. But when they are at rest they have zero mass (zero rest mass).

Otherwise solar sails won't work

No, photons carry MOMENTUM which is why solar sails work.
According to SR even massless particles carry momentum (in addition to m*v there is another term so even if m=0 the particle can still carry momentum)

 

[paadness]

Yes my house was infected. Everything happened repeatedly, same hours but how can i find them, it was scary even going into that room. No harm done!

 

[CalvinHobbs]

Originally posted by: Valkerie
Continue watching scary movies.
Play Starcraft a bit more, they have a lot of invisible units.
Play Ghost Recon.

By doing these three you will have a stronger definition of "ghosts."

In my opinion, ghosts are highly trained specialists, ordered to take on secret ops missions.

guess this makes you look intelligent and the op an idiot just because he believes in something you don't