What an open marriage taught one man about feminism

[Moonbeam]

Regarding what Moonbeam said here:

"One person completes another. If one can't do it an infinite number won't either."

This is complex. There is two parts of this.
I don't think another person can complete you. If you are not complete already no one else will ever be able to do it for you. Requiring someone else to fill some hole inside of you will do nothing but make both of you miserable. Find happiness in yourself then share it with others, don't look for others to give their happiness to you.

I also don't think that any one person could ever possibly be everything I need. I am a complex person, with complex needs. I want a great lover. I want a great conversationalist. I want a great thinker. I want a great adventurer. I want someone that is enthusiastic about life and full of energy and optimism that will spur me to try new things and take risks. I want someone that is content to sit quietly on the side of a river and spend a weekend meditating. I want someone that will leave me alone when I am tired of dealing with people.
I can't be all those people to anyone.
It is unfair to ask one person to be all those things for me.

I don't know if you realize that what you say here is just what I said, in my opinion:

First you say that one must be complete within oneself, that another can't complete you if not, and then you list all the things you want from others to complete you, attributing it to complexity. I would attribute it to having a lot of holes in your cup, the result of the lack of your own sense of completeness.

These different points of view in my opinion are based on a different notion of what completeness means. You are looking to add things to your experience, it seems to me, an addition that is endless by nature because it is acquisitiveness. I am talking about a completeness that is subtractive, that leads to a lack of need, the attainment of the unity of love. The lover ceases to exist. There is only the beloved. For the lover there is only loving, there is no being loved. The lover gets nothing at all, he or she only gives. The self that is not is complete.

This, I believe, is the ultimate experience of human consciousness, the deepest truth and also therefore., the root of the monogamous feeling, why it will always be the ideal. For the lover who is male the universe is contained is a single woman.

 

[Moonbeam]

ATOT is like a psych ward now. Except me. I'm one of the normal ones who put up with it. I Reallllllly need to stop visiting because I can't really see you guys in person. Alot of the bullshit said on the forum would be so obviously bullshit in real life. Instead of having to take everything point by point so seriously I'm pretty sure most people on ATOT would just get laughed out.

Trust me, you fit right in.

 

[Phokus]

Cucktales, a woo woo!

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

Cucktales, a woo woo!

I have no idea who all the faces are... especially the ones on the choper...

 

[Exophase]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Menstrual_synchrony

Thanks, I always wondered if it was really true. I guess it'll be a while before it's dispelled since the studies that show evidence against it are pretty recent.

 

[SMOGZINN]

First you say that one must be complete within oneself, that another can't complete you if not, and then you list all the things you want from others to complete you, attributing it to complexity. I would attribute it to having a lot of holes in your cup, the result of the lack of your own sense of completeness.

I don't want it to complete me, I want it to complement me. Those are very different things. I am already complete. All of those things are part of what I am. I am not looking for something to fill a hole, but a companion to share my joy with.

The lover gets nothing at all, he or she only gives.

But at the same time you are trying to claim that a person needs another to be complete. That is just another way of saying you need to be given something.

This, I believe, is the ultimate experience of human consciousness, the deepest truth and also therefore., the root of the monogamous feeling, why it will always be the ideal. For the lover who is male the universe is contained is a single woman.

So, this can only happen with two people not three? What about bisexual people?
Your truth does not contain me. That makes it incomplete.

 

[Moonbeam]

SMOGZINN: ]I don't want it to complete me, I want it to complement me. Those are very different things. I am already complete. All of those things are part of what I am. I am not looking for something to fill a hole, but a companion to share my joy with.

M: What you call different things I see in the word 'want' . You are aware of needs. You have a desire for something. He who is complete needs no complement or perceives any such need.



S: But at the same time you are trying to claim that a person needs another to be complete. That is just another way of saying you need to be given something.

M: The Lover and the Beloved are one. This is the law of unity expressed via the number 3, the holy affirming, the holy denying, and the holy reconciling. The lover the beloved and love are all one, the head of the serpent, the tail of the serpent and the wedding ring.


S: So, this can only happen with two people not three? What about bisexual people?
Your truth does not contain me. That makes it incomplete.

M: I only tell you what I see and why what you say makes no sense to me. My truth does contain you in my opinion and I am sure of that fact. I have no deed that you agree. I feel no threat from your point of view because I see no validity to it. I don't need to take it away from you. I don't want this to be a contest. I think I have done what I can to state my point of view. I leave you to yours.

 

[Phokus]

I have no idea who all the faces are... especially the ones on the choper...

It's a gamergate joke, 'scrooge mcduck' is zoe quinn. The guys in the chopper are the dudes she allegedly... cucked with.

Actually one of the dudes is phil fish whom she didn't sleep with.

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

It's a gamergate joke, 'scrooge mcduck' is zoe quinn. The guys in the chopper are the dudes she allegedly... cucked with.

Actually one of the dudes is phil fish whom she didn't sleep with.

Now someone define for me what 'cuckold' is....

is it a dude that gets off to other people fucking his wife? Or is it a wife that dominates her husband and fucks other dudes because he's a pussy?

 

[Phokus]

Now someone define for me what 'cuckold' is....

is it a dude that gets off to other people fucking his wife? Or is it a wife that dominates her husband and fucks other dudes because he's a pussy?

Could be either, some guys do get off on it.

 

[smackababy]

I don't actually have a problem with his relationship. If they love, but sexual satisfaction isn't obtained by one party, a valid fix is for that party to seek sex outside the relationship.

The only issue I take is this guy somehow convincing himself that it is feminism, obviously because he isn't okay with it.

 

[quikah]

Could be either, some guys do get off on it.

I think technically it is either, but common usage today is the second one. Cuckolding involves some sort of humiliation. The first one is better referred to as hotwife.

 

[Phokus]

I think technically it is either, but common usage today is the second one. Cuckolding involves some sort of humiliation. The first one is better referred to as hotwife.

I think humiliation is what some of those guys get off on!

 

[smackababy]

I think humiliation is what some of those guys get off on!

That is just the fetishized version. The term is for both the fetish and a man simply being cheated on by his wife, I believe. The verb is to have sex with another man's wife.

 

[Dr. Zaus]

That is just the fetishized version. The term is for both the fetish and a man simply being cheated on by his wife, I believe. The verb is to have sex with another man's wife.

In reference to a Cuckoo bird: many species of which lay their eggs in another bird's nest.

 

[OverVolt]

Trust me, you fit right in.

No thanks, nobody reads your psychobabble anyway.