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manlymatt83

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I've always had a few solid forms of beliefs, but never really knew where I stand. I'd like to say I'm socially liberal but economically conservative, but I'm not sure if that's right...

My beliefs:

- I like the idea of socialism, but I know in theory it wouldn't work. I'd rather have the option to pay for my health care and get better private health care if I wanted to, however, I know that people out there who don't have good opportunities/jobs need basic health care and that it seems, the government must supply that for them (especially in economies like today where they have no other choice).

- I'm not a fan of the death penalty.

- I don't like the idea of abortion but would never outlaw it if given the chance, because I don't believe that I have the power to control what other people do with their own bodies.

- I am 100% okay with gay marriage and anything else that has nothing to do with me whatsoever. Let them live their lives the way they want to live it.

- The lower the taxes, the better, because I would rather give more of my money away to organizations I choose than watch the government waste it away. Then again, like I said earlier, I like the idea of social programs. If I knew I could give X% of my salary per year to the government in the form of taxes, and in exchange, they would provide successful programs for those less fortunate, then I would be all for it. The problem is that history shows they can't really do that. But then again, can we trust people who make a lot of money to donate enough of their salary to non-profits they want to donate to? Or would they all just keep their money?

- I was 110% against the bailouts of these companies (knowing they would go bankrupt anyway). Let them go bankrupt, and let something who can do a better job replace it. It's the nature of our economics, and bailing out just screws things up.

- I like the idea of a spending tax instead of income tax. Those who make little money could save most of their money and not spend it on clothes and diamonds, etc. and save more of their money. Those who are rich could save more of their money by not spending it on lavish cars, etc. The big non-necessary items, like dining out, lavish cars, expensive jewelery, etc. would be taxed higher for anyone. Not sure if this would work in principal, but I still think it's a good idea.




Can someone help me find out what "political class" I fall under?
 

Craig234

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Originally posted by: manlymatt83
I've always had a few solid forms of beliefs, but never really knew where I stand. I'd like to say I'm socially liberal but economically conservative, but I'm not sure if that's right...

My beliefs:

- I like the idea of socialism, but I know in theory it wouldn't work. I'd rather have the option to pay for my health care and get better private health care if I wanted to, however, I know that people out there who don't have good opportunities/jobs need basic health care and that it seems, the government must supply that for them (especially in economies like today where they have no other choice).

- I'm not a fan of the death penalty.

- I don't like the idea of abortion but would never outlaw it if given the chance, because I don't believe that I have the power to control what other people do with their own bodies.

- I am 100% okay with gay marriage and anything else that has nothing to do with me whatsoever. Let them live their lives the way they want to live it.

- The lower the taxes, the better, because I would rather give more of my money away to organizations I choose than watch the government waste it away. Then again, like I said earlier, I like the idea of social programs. If I knew I could give X% of my salary per year to the government in the form of taxes, and in exchange, they would provide successful programs for those less fortunate, then I would be all for it. The problem is that history shows they can't really do that. But then again, can we trust people who make a lot of money to donate enough of their salary to non-profits they want to donate to? Or would they all just keep their money?

- I was 110% against the bailouts of these companies (knowing they would go bankrupt anyway). Let them go bankrupt, and let something who can do a better job replace it. It's the nature of our economics, and bailing out just screws things up.

- I like the idea of a spending tax instead of income tax. Those who make little money could save most of their money and not spend it on clothes and diamonds, etc. and save more of their money. Those who are rich could save more of their money by not spending it on lavish cars, etc. The big non-necessary items, like dining out, lavish cars, expensive jewelery, etc. would be taxed higher for anyone. Not sure if this would work in principal, but I still think it's a good idea.




Can someone help me find out what "political class" I fall under?

No major party represents your positions; you need to choose one that's closest and push for change, if you want to join one.

You're not so far off the democrats you wouldn't fit in, with some conservative views you would disagree with them on. Some of your views are Libertarian and Republican as well.

given that your values are 'friendly' to the goals of socialism even if you think it doesn't work, that says 'liberal values' to me, hence the Democrats.
 

evident

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you're a moderate, just like many others. the republicans are just extreme right now, and it seems like there are far more moderate democrats out there than R's.
 

Darthvoy

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Hitler Jr?

haha good one... I was going to say gay

On a serious note... you appear moderate with left leaning tendencies
 

cwjerome

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Personally I think you're going about this the wrong way. It's the modern and easy way... add up your opinions and see where you stand. I believe people need to develop their own philosophies. Doing so would make each person better and that would make society better, as opposed to focusing what team you're on and playing the partisan sport of politics.

When put on trial Socrates said the unexamined life is not worth living. Simply having a bunch of beliefs is not only superficial, but it's also counterproductive. Rather than possessing an unorganized mass of opinions (and then following what their particular team orders) a person should scrutinize and organize their thoughts into a meaningful and coherent system of views.

A lot of years ago I was camping with a friend, talking big ideas around the fire, and I had an insight when my friend basically asked (in the deepest sense) several times why I believed something and how I came to that belief. In a day when everyone wants to know your opinion and then argue about it, this was practically an epiphany. The sincerity, the respect for and curiosity about ideas, the desire for understanding my ideas practically floored me. This was not some argumentative attack on some topical issue... it was Socrates' idea in motion.

 

bozack

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Originally posted by: manlymatt83
- I like the idea of a spending tax instead of income tax. Those who make little money could save most of their money and not spend it on clothes and diamonds, etc. and save more of their money. Those who are rich could save more of their money by not spending it on lavish cars, etc. The big non-necessary items, like dining out, lavish cars, expensive jewelery, etc. would be taxed higher for anyone. Not sure if this would work in principal, but I still think it's a good idea.

I have contemplated this as well, but the reality is if you do this then even those who can afford these items will most likely cut back to save money, heck most people I know who are wealthy are also pretty damn cheap when it comes to luxury and or un-necessary stuff, if anything it is more the average joes who are willing to overspend and put off the image that they are doing well.
 
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