What about relativity?

Viper1j

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WTAF???

Is relativity a "law" like gravity now?

Florida bill would ban public colleges from teaching any 'theoretical' content


A new bill overhauling Florida universities to match Gov. Ron DeSantis’ vision for higher education would shift power at state schools into the hands of the Republican leader’s political appointees and ban gender studies as a field of study.

The legislation, filed this week, would also require that general education courses at state colleges and universities “promote the values necessary to preserve the constitutional republic” and cannot define American history “as contrary to the creation of a new nation based on universal principles stated in the Declaration of Independence.” It would prohibit general courses “with a curriculum based on unproven, theoretical or exploratory content.”

The bill makes good on DeSantis’ pledge to ban colleges and universities from any expenditures on diversity, equity and inclusion, or DEI, programs. In a news conference earlier this month, DeSantis, who is weighing a 2024 presidential bid, said such programs create an “ideological filter,” and his office described them as “discriminatory.”

DEI programs are intended to promote multiculturalism and to encourage students of all races and backgrounds to feel comfortable in a campus setting, especially those from traditionally underrepresented communities. The state’s flagship school, the University of Florida, has a “chief diversity officer,” a “Center for Inclusion and Multicultural Engagement” and an “Office for Accessibility and Gender Equity.”

The bill would put all hiring decisions in the hands of each universities’ board of trustees, a body selected entirely by the governor and his appointees, with input from the school’s president. A board of trustee member could also call for the review of any faculty member’s tenure.

DeSantis has seen his standing among conservatives soar nationwide following his public stances on hot-button cultural and education issues.

The Republican governor has also installed a controversial new board at the New College of Florida, a public liberal arts college, with a mandate to remake the school into his conservative vision for higher education.

Presidents of Florida’s two-year community colleges last month committed to not teach critical race theory in a vacuum and to “not fund or support any institutional practice, policy, or academic requirement that compels belief in critical race theory or related concepts such as intersectionality, or the idea that systems of oppression should be the primary lens through which teaching and learning are analyzed and/or improved upon.”

The state’s education department characterized the move as a rejection of “‘woke’ diversity, equity and inclusion [and] critical race theory ideologies.”
 

MrSquished

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Nothing to worry about if this guy becomes president because he'll clearly respect our major institutions without a doubt, and anybody saying otherwise is hysterical. Just relax people. This isn't a warning sign at all, just posturing for votes, like everything else happening by that guy and his party. He's just trying to win more power, and when he does get it, he's going to throttle back, like all these types of people in history.

Nothing too substantial to really fear.
 
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Viper1j

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Nothing to worry about if this guy becomes president because he'll clearly respect our major institutions without a doubt, and anybody saying otherwise is hysterical. Just relax people. This isn't a warning sign at all, just posturing for votes, like everything else happening by that guy and his party. He's just trying to win more power, and when he does get it, he's going to throttle back, like all these types of people in history.

Nothing too substantial to really fear.

'Dolph never found the brake pedal.
 

Paratus

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WTAF???

Is relativity a "law" like gravity now?

Florida bill would ban public colleges from teaching any 'theoretical' content


A new bill overhauling Florida universities to match Gov. Ron DeSantis’ vision for higher education would shift power at state schools into the hands of the Republican leader’s political appointees and ban gender studies as a field of study.

The legislation, filed this week, would also require that general education courses at state colleges and universities “promote the values necessary to preserve the constitutional republic” and cannot define American history “as contrary to the creation of a new nation based on universal principles stated in the Declaration of Independence.” It would prohibit general courses “with a curriculum based on unproven, theoretical or exploratory content.”

The bill makes good on DeSantis’ pledge to ban colleges and universities from any expenditures on diversity, equity and inclusion, or DEI, programs. In a news conference earlier this month, DeSantis, who is weighing a 2024 presidential bid, said such programs create an “ideological filter,” and his office described them as “discriminatory.”

DEI programs are intended to promote multiculturalism and to encourage students of all races and backgrounds to feel comfortable in a campus setting, especially those from traditionally underrepresented communities. The state’s flagship school, the University of Florida, has a “chief diversity officer,” a “Center for Inclusion and Multicultural Engagement” and an “Office for Accessibility and Gender Equity.”

The bill would put all hiring decisions in the hands of each universities’ board of trustees, a body selected entirely by the governor and his appointees, with input from the school’s president. A board of trustee member could also call for the review of any faculty member’s tenure.

DeSantis has seen his standing among conservatives soar nationwide following his public stances on hot-button cultural and education issues.

The Republican governor has also installed a controversial new board at the New College of Florida, a public liberal arts college, with a mandate to remake the school into his conservative vision for higher education.

Presidents of Florida’s two-year community colleges last month committed to not teach critical race theory in a vacuum and to “not fund or support any institutional practice, policy, or academic requirement that compels belief in critical race theory or related concepts such as intersectionality, or the idea that systems of oppression should be the primary lens through which teaching and learning are analyzed and/or improved upon.”

The state’s education department characterized the move as a rejection of “‘woke’ diversity, equity and inclusion [and] critical race theory ideologies.”
Basically the entirety of mainstream accepted science are theories, even “laws”. So all science teachers in the state should stop teaching science. This will leave all students in the state at a disadvantage in the job market but that’s what their government wants.
 

Pens1566

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I wonder what the impact to unemployment will be if you can't teach physics in FL anymore.
 

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I'm struggling to identify a single college major that doesn't include at least some theoretical content? So I guess DeSantis is formally planning to decertify every degree from every Florida college.

Given the other changes he's made to the lower level curriculums, might as well relabel every Florida school as as a theological indoctrination facility.

Great job!
 
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woolfe9998

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I strongly suspect that where this bill precludes “a curriculum based on unproven, theoretical or exploratory content” that it is not referring to the word "theory" as it is meant in hard sciences.

That said, I have no idea who is going to enforce such a vague standard, and how.
 
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Dave_5k

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I strongly suspect that where this bill precludes “a curriculum based on unproven, theoretical or exploratory content” that it is not referring to the word "theory" as it is meant in hard sciences.

That said, I have no idea who is going to enforce such a vague standard, and how.
DeSantis will enforce it personally, based on any direct tweets or messages he gets from concerned white supremacists from his friends list.

And yes, it is intended to be used exactly as republicans use "woke" as a pejorative - anything MAGA Christian Nazis don't like will be axed as "theory"
 

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How soon till he decides that higher education is only for males, then carry it further to white males.

Females can get by on 8th grade education, then start breeding.


Yeehaw, back to the 50’s. Not only breeding, but also home cookin, cleanin the house, washing cloths, sewing, takin care of the kids, bringing me my cold beer, etc.

This is just a taste of the future when DeSantis becomes GOP candidate for 2024 POTUS.
 
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Muse

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It would prohibit general courses “with a curriculum based on unproven, theoretical or exploratory content.”
That's a good one. Rigor, rigor... rigor! We can't have wishy washy minds now can we? Only dogma... :rolleyes:
 
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Bitek

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How soon till he decides that higher education is only for males, then carry it further to white males.

Females can get by on 8th grade education, then start breeding.

I think he's currently working on "you can only learn about whites". Then keep rolling it back from there
 

BoomerD

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I suspect that IF this comes to pass, universities outside of Floriduh will refuse to accept transfers, transcripts for those looking for Masters or Doctorate programs, and employers will stop considering Floriduh grajewaytes for employment.
 

Perknose

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Females can get by on 8th grade education, then start breeding.
How about . . . after they complete their 8th grade level education, women (well, girls, actually) can be charged with "murder of the not yet conceived" if they don't immediately get pregnant.

Remember, life begins when Emperor DeSantis says it does.