^&)(&@#%!!!! What a way to start off a Monday morning!!! UPDATED!!!

[shiner]

It's pouring rain so I decide to get up early and come to work before all the rush hour traffic. I get up, shower, etc....then go to the garage and start the car. Let the car run for a few minutes while I go inside and grab some orange juice and a muffin. I come back out, get in the car, start driving to work. I had gone about 2 miles and was headed down a hill when I hear this obnoxious ROAR come from under my hood, all the lights on my dash come on but all the gauges look normal. That's when the engine quit. I pulled to the side of the road, got out(remember it's pouring rain), and popped the hood. Everything looks ok, no fluids leaking, check the oil and it's full(I had just checked it yesterday anyway), I even crawled under it to see if I could find any damage. Nothing. I get back in, try to start it but nothing. Lights are on, radio is working, odd. About that time my Dad pulls up behind me. Luckily I don't live far from them and he was headed to the town. He gets out and asks me what is going on so I tell him the story. He checks the car out and can't find anything either. That's when my friend Terry pulls up, now it's a convention, he was going to work and saw my Dad's truck and my Durango and thought he would see if there was anything wrong. I tell him the story and he gets on the phone and calls his Dad who, among other things, owns a salvage company. 10 minutes later and there is a wrecker on site that then tows my Durango to the dealership. End of story for now....I'll update when they call and tell me what happens. I'm at work now, luckily I keep a spare change of clothes in my office for those nights when I might end up having to spend the night in the server room.

I hate Mondays!!!

 

[guyver01]

could be a dead battery.

 

[wyvrn]

or a bad starter if his radio works

hey at least you got a free trip to the dealer and didn't have to call one yourself

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: guyver01
could be a dead battery.

If the lights are on and the radio works???  

 

[guyver01]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: guyver01
could be a dead battery.

If the lights are on and the radio works???  

I thought the same thing last week, when my car wouldn't crank. No cranking sound.. nothing.

The dealer said the alarm was defective, and drained the battery.

beats me... i didnt believe it either..

 

[Nyical]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: guyver01
could be a dead battery.

If the lights are on and the radio works???  

People fail to read anything now of days



( start driving to work. I had gone about 2 miles and was headed down a hill when I hear this obnoxious ROAR come from under my hood, all the lights on my dash come on but all the gauges look normal. )


What did his starter explode!!!

 

[shiner]

Originally posted by: guyver01
could be a dead battery.

Nope electrical is all fine. It tries to crank but the engine just knocks. That and the big red check engine light is what is causing me to worry. Like I said, all the gauges are fine and everything electrical is working. My Durango has right at 46k miles on it. The original engine was replaced at 19k miles due to mechanical failure, I tried telling them about 2 weeks after I bought it that something was wrong but they wouldn't listen. Took it in 7 different times to tell them something was wrong. They refused to listen to me until it went kablooey. I have a feeling this is going to be similar. Ironically I was doing some reading this weekend about the engine in my Durango, 5.2 litre 318CI, and it turns out that engine had a ton of problems in the 2000 model year.

 

[dman]

Timing Belt (probably has chain though, so doubt it).

Maybe some other belt broke (and you missed it looking under hood)?

 

[Codewiz]

If his durango is anything like my Dodge Ram 1500 then it only has one belt and if it broke he would notice it. I assume his Durango has a timing chain like my truck.

I will say one thing, I will never buy another Dodge. I getting ready to be on my THIRD transmission and my vehicle only has 93K on it. I don't do any hauling and I treat my truck nice. It is just a POS. I think I will also have to replace the torque converter at the same time.

Not to mention the first transmission was under warranty but the dealership tried to say it wasn't even when I showed them the paperwork. I had to get a lawyer to get them to repair it. Probably why the transmission is getting ready to go again. They probably put the biggest POS transmission in it that they could find.

Dodge NEVER again.

 

[T3C]

Originally posted by: dman
Timing Belt (probably has chain though, so doubt it).

Maybe some other belt broke (and you missed it looking under hood)?

that would be what i would think also

 

[Demon-Xanth]

How long was the roar?
How often did you change the oil?
When you said "all the guages were okay", does that include the tachameter and oil pressure guages?

It almost sounds like the engine siezed. Which is something they rarely do on thier own.


To make troubleshooting a bit easier for the channel:
The 5.2 for that year has a distributor, timing chain, afaik it's not an interference engine (the valves wouldn't hit the pistons when stuck open), the oil pump is a standard gear style, all accessories are connected via a serpentine belt. It's MPFI w/ a throttlebody mounted on the top.


Though I hadn't heard anything about "tons of problems in the 2000 model year", and I hang out at Dakota websites.

 

[shiner]

Originally posted by: Demon-Xanth
How long was the roar?
How often did you change the oil?
When you said "all the guages were okay", does that include the tachameter and oil pressure guages?

It almost sounds like the engine siezed. Which is something they rarely do on thier own.


To make troubleshooting a bit easier for the channel:
The 5.2 for that year has a distributor, timing chain, afaik it's not an interference engine (the valves wouldn't hit the pistons when stuck open), the oil pump is a standard gear style, all accessories are connected via a serpentine belt. It's MPFI w/ a throttlebody mounted on the top.


Though I hadn't heard anything about "tons of problems in the 2000 model year", and I hang out at Dakota websites.

Roar lasted about 10 seconds.

I change the oil religiously every 3k miles. Just changed it last week.

Tach & Oil gauges were normal.

I hadn't read much about problems with the engine until I stumbled across a site mentioning lots of sludging problems with the 4.7 From there I was following some links and ran across several sites that mentioned problems with the 5.2 failing. Maybe that's one of the reasons they no longer build it.

 

[Nitemare]

Originally posted by: cybpnk

Originally posted by: dman
Timing Belt (probably has chain though, so doubt it).

Maybe some other belt broke (and you missed it looking under hood)?

that would be what i would think also

Me too, the loud roar was giving it away.

Have you got a timing belt or chain and how many miles?

 

[wyvrn]

Hey I never claimed to be a auto expert. But I'm curious, why don't you give us your opinion since you seem quite knowledgable about cars.

Originally posted by: Nyical

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: guyver01
could be a dead battery.

If the lights are on and the radio works???  

People fail to read anything now of days



( start driving to work. I had gone about 2 miles and was headed down a hill when I hear this obnoxious ROAR come from under my hood, all the lights on my dash come on but all the gauges look normal. )


What did his starter explode!!!

 

[shiner]

Originally posted by: Nitemare

Originally posted by: cybpnk

Originally posted by: dman
Timing Belt (probably has chain though, so doubt it).

Maybe some other belt broke (and you missed it looking under hood)?

that would be what i would think also

Me too, the loud roar was giving it away.

Have you got a timing belt or chain and how many miles?

Timing chain. 46k miles.

 

[Codewiz]

Unless the chain broke VERY prematurely then I don't think that is the problem. It probably isn't the other belt either because he would have seen it.

 

[Demon-Xanth]

They still make the 5.9, which is similar in everything but the bore and stroke to the 5.2. The sludging in the 4.7 is due to a difference in the metals used and doesn't appear to signifigantly affect reliability. The reason for the 4.7 being used in place of the 5.2 is it's ability to put out the same power, same torque, while revving faster, being more reliable, and lighter. But like I said, the 5.2's architecture is still in production, and the 5.2's siblings date back to the 60's if not 50's.

 

[Nitemare]

Originally posted by: shinerburke

Originally posted by: Nitemare

Originally posted by: cybpnk

Originally posted by: dman
Timing Belt (probably has chain though, so doubt it).

Maybe some other belt broke (and you missed it looking under hood)?

that would be what i would think also

Me too, the loud roar was giving it away.

Have you got a timing belt or chain and how many miles?

Timing chain. 46k miles.

Blah! There goes that theory. I would say starter but the loud roar makes me scratch my head. Where is Roger when you need him?

 

[shiner]

Originally posted by: Demon-Xanth
They still make the 5.9, which is similar in everything but the bore and stroke to the 5.2. The sludging in the 4.7 is due to a difference in the metals used and doesn't appear to signifigantly affect reliability. The reason for the 4.7 being used in place of the 5.2 is it's ability to put out the same power, same torque, while revving faster, being more reliable, and lighter. But like I said, the 5.2's architecture is still in production, and the 5.2's siblings date back to the 60's if not 50's.

Yeah the good ol 360 is just about the same engine as the 318. My Dad has a Dodge truck with a 360 in it and over 100k miles. Doesn't use a drop of oil and is still going strong. Hell he tows boats, trailers, and tractors behind it on a regular basis. I think I just got a couple of bad engines. Like I said, the original engine had a knock in it that I noticed about 2 weeks after I bought it. Took it in several times and told them there was something wrong and they refused to listen. The engine I have now has never seemed to be quite as powerful as the original, could just be perception, but didn't have any problems until now.

 

[shiner]

Dealership just called me back and said the only thing wrong was the transmission sensor. It went bad and when it did it caused the engine to rev until the govenor shut it down. Said if I had waited 15 minutes I would have been able to start the car and drive it in. Who has ever heard of such a thing? I hate all this computerized sh1t on cars!!! One little sensor goes bad and it leads to something like this.

Anyway it's fixed now.

 

[pyonir]

Originally posted by: shinerburke
Dealership just called me back and said the only thing wrong was the transmission sensor. It went bad and when it did it caused the engine to rev until the govenor shut it down. Said if I had waited 15 minutes I would have been able to start the car and drive it in. Who has ever heard of such a thing? I hate all this computerized sh1t on cars!!! One little sensor goes bad and it leads to something like this.

Anyway it's fixed now.

Is it going to cost you anything? or is it covered?

 

[Demon-Xanth]

Welcome to the 21st century. Where your GAS CAP can set off a check engine light.

Look at the good side though, the engine's computer kept the engine from self destruction, and shut itself down. Unlike when my mom drove our '78 GMC down the freeway in 4lo.

 

[Nitemare]

Originally posted by: shinerburke
Dealership just called me back and said the only thing wrong was the transmission sensor. It went bad and when it did it caused the engine to rev until the govenor shut it down. Said if I had waited 15 minutes I would have been able to start the car and drive it in. Who has ever heard of such a thing? I hate all this computerized sh1t on cars!!! One little sensor goes bad and it leads to something like this.

Anyway it's fixed now.

That was my next guess... , glad it is ok now

 

[MaxDepth]

And the cost to you is...
[drumroll]





My sucky Monday story
I am at work with my right shoulder wrapped up tightly. I dislocated my shoulder this weekend playing in a volleball tournament. I went up to spike and got rejected. Ball didn't move forward off the net but my arm certainly did. I popped it back into place by falling back into the sand, diving into it shoulder first.

:frown:

 

[shiner]

Originally posted by: pyonir

Originally posted by: shinerburke
Dealership just called me back and said the only thing wrong was the transmission sensor. It went bad and when it did it caused the engine to rev until the govenor shut it down. Said if I had waited 15 minutes I would have been able to start the car and drive it in. Who has ever heard of such a thing? I hate all this computerized sh1t on cars!!! One little sensor goes bad and it leads to something like this.

Anyway it's fixed now.

Is it going to cost you anything? or is it covered?

My cost is $0. When my original engine blew up I went round and round with the dealership about it. Long story short they ended up giving me a 100k mile warranty to shut me up and keep me from calling a reporter friend of mine.