What a waste of tax payer's $$$$$

[smartcap]

If u have this much time on your hand....to take up a frivolous lawsuit like this...then u should be shot in the balls!!!!

 

[prvteye2003]

I had the same gripe when I bought my 36.7Gb Raptor and it only had 34.4Gb of usable space on it. I asked WD about it too and basically got blown off.

 

[EXman]

actually I think this is long overdue just do a search on how many n00bs ask that very same question. it is deceptive period. It said they want them to change the advertising is all.

I had the same gripe when I bought my 37.6Gb Raptor and it only had 34.4Gb of usable space on it. I asked WD about it too and basically got blown off.

my point proven exactly...

 

[prvteye2003]

Originally posted by: EXman
actually I think this is long overdue just do a search on how many n00bs ask that very same question. it is deceptive period. It said they want them to change the advertising is all.

Well, I'm not a noob by any means but I would still like to get what I thought I was buying.

 

[Kaervak]

Originally posted by: EXman
actually I think this is long overdue just do a search on how many n00bs ask that very same question. it is deceptive period. It said they want them to change the advertising is all.

Agreed. 1000 megabytes is not 1 gigabyte.

 

[Pilsnerpete]

It's not frivolous. I used to wonder about that myself. It's intentionally deceitful marketing.

 

[her209]

I was pissed off when I found out I paid 300$ for a 16GB SCSI HDD instead of the advertised 18GB HDD.

 

[CommCR]

Originally posted by: Pilsnerpete
It's not frivolous. I used to wonder about that myself. It's intentionally deceitful marketing.

i always wondered how they got away with that...

 

[dighn]

it's pretty deceptive imho. a lot of ppl have no idea about this

 

[prvteye2003]

Originally posted by: smartcap
If u have this much time on your hand....to take up a frivolous lawsuit like this...then u should be shot in the balls!!!!

sorry there big boy but looks like everybody disagrees with you. Maybe shoot yourself in the balls?

 

[NuclearFusi0n]

Bull, one MEGAbyte is precisely 1,000,000 bytes. Use the Mebi prefix if you want to signify a base 2 number. Stop screwing with SI standards. The HD manufacturers are telling the truth, it's the crappy software that confuses M with Mi and G with Gi, etc, that needs fixing. go sue microsoft or something.

 

[Ronstang]

Originally posted by: Pilsnerpete
It's not frivolous. I used to wonder about that myself. It's intentionally deceitful marketing.

It sure is....and it is about time someone did something about it. Wouldn't you be pissed if the automakers came up with some new quantity that was actually .8 of a HP but they called it a HP?.....all of a sudden your 200HP engine only puts out 160. This actually happened in a round about way many years ago and that is why they now use NET HP which means a lot more and is easier to compare to other manufacturers.

 

[Cyberian]

Originally posted by: Ronstang
It sure is....and it is about time someone did something about it. Wouldn't you be pissed if the automakers came up with some new quantity that was actually .8 of a HP but they called it a HP?.....all of a sudden your 200HP engine only puts out 160. This actually happened in a round about way many years ago and that is why they now use NET HP which means a lot more and is easier to compare to other manufacturers.

Oh, you mean like 'brochure HP' as opposed to crank or wheel HP?

 

[her209]

Originally posted by: NuclearFusi0n
Bull, one MEGAbyte is precisely 1,000,000 bytes. Use the Mebi prefix if you want to signify a base 2 number. Stop screwing with SI standards. The HD manufacturers are telling the truth, it's the crappy software that confuses M with Mi and G with Gi, etc, that needs fixing. go sue microsoft or something.

2^0 = 1 byte
2^1 = 2 bytes
2^10 = 1024 bytes = 1 kilobyte
2^20 = 1024 kilobytes = 1 megabyte
2^30 = 1024 megabytes = 1 gigabytes
:
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[TechnoKid]

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: NuclearFusi0n
Bull, one MEGAbyte is precisely 1,000,000 bytes. Use the Mebi prefix if you want to signify a base 2 number. Stop screwing with SI standards. The HD manufacturers are telling the truth, it's the crappy software that confuses M with Mi and G with Gi, etc, that needs fixing. go sue microsoft or something.

2^0 = 1 byte
2^1 = 2 bytes
2^10 = 1024 bytes = 1 kilobyte
2^20 = 1024 kilobytes = 1 megabyte
2^30 = 1024 megabytes = 1 gigabytes
:
:

yea, i've ALWAYS notticed the little asterik that explains exactly how much is a megabyte, and many peole fail to realize that the OS's MB is represented differently than what the manufactures stament of a MB is...

 

[NuclearFusi0n]

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: NuclearFusi0n
Bull, one MEGAbyte is precisely 1,000,000 bytes. Use the Mebi prefix if you want to signify a base 2 number. Stop screwing with SI standards. The HD manufacturers are telling the truth, it's the crappy software that confuses M with Mi and G with Gi, etc, that needs fixing. go sue microsoft or something.

2^0 = 1 byte
2^1 = 2 bytes
2^10 = 1024 bytes = 1 kilobyte
2^20 = 1024 kilobytes = 1 megabyte
2^30 = 1024 megabytes = 1 gigabytes
:
:

10^0 = 1 byte
10^1 = 10 bytes
10^3 = 1000 bytes = 1 kilobyte
10^7 = 1000 kilobytes = 1 megabyte

2^0 = 1 byte
2^1 = 2 bytes
2^10 = 1024 bytes = 1 kibibyte
2^20 = 1024 kibibytes = 1 mebibyte
2^30 = 1024 mebibytes = 1 gibibytes

 

[Ronstang]

Originally posted by: Cyberian

Originally posted by: Ronstang
It sure is....and it is about time someone did something about it. Wouldn't you be pissed if the automakers came up with some new quantity that was actually .8 of a HP but they called it a HP?.....all of a sudden your 200HP engine only puts out 160. This actually happened in a round about way many years ago and that is why they now use NET HP which means a lot more and is easier to compare to other manufacturers.

Oh, you mean like 'brochure HP' as opposed to crank or wheel HP?

Well, actually back in the 60's auto manufacturers used to get there engine HP figures on an engine dyno with no transmisson and no belt driven accesories (not even a water pump) so their figures were so overrated it was comical. By the time the engine was in the car with all the accessories hooked up and the driveline losses figured in the actual usable HP was around %60 of what was advertised. Todays cars are rated in net HP at the wheels and that is why a lot of the older "Glory Days" muscle cars are actually slower than the performance cars of today, the HP ratings would lead you to believe different though.

 

[smartcap]

That's like saying u got all pissy cuz the cashier @ McDonald short change u by a nickel..so u take it upon yourself to right this injustice to humanity and sue McD for hiring incompetent people. (Y do u think they're working @ McD in the first place?)


If u wanna do something that'll benefit both you, I, and humankind...go find a cure for cancer, put an end to terrorism, feed the homeless, or fight child porn.

Getting all worked up because the HD that u bought is only reporting 18GB under Windows and the box says 20GB...and because of it...u now can only store 18GB of porn...then maybe u need help.

Maybe in my old age (approaching 30) I see the world differently....but getting worked up over 2-3 missing gigabyte is comparable to throwing a temper tantrum (x2) cuz the chick @ Jamba Juice didn't fill your Strawberry Smoothy to the brim..

Originally posted by: prvteye2003

Originally posted by: smartcap
If u have this much time on your hand....to take up a frivolous lawsuit like this...then u should be shot in the balls!!!!

sorry there big boy but looks like everybody disagrees with you. Maybe shoot yourself in the balls?

 

[Gyrene]

Oh my god, people in this country are actually intentionally deceitful?! WTF? I never would have thought that.

 

[Cyberian]

Originally posted by: Ronstang
Well, actually back in the 60's auto manufacturers used to get there engine HP figures on an engine dyno with no transmisson and no belt driven accesories (not even a water pump) so their figures were so overrated it was comical. By the time the engine was in the car with all the accessories hooked up and the driveline losses figured in the actual usable HP was around %60 of what was advertised. Todays cars are rated in net HP at the wheels and that is why a lot of the older "Glory Days" muscle cars are actually slower than the performance cars of today, the HP ratings would lead you to believe different though.

Yeah, that's what I meant by 'brochure' HP - the figure they published in their marketing media.
And, yes, I was there in the '60s. Got my senior license in 1961.

 

[kt]

What is the f*cking point? So, what if these idiots win the case and the manufacturer had to change to their "real" capacity. Do YOU think they will budge on the price?!?!? NO. You still going to get that 36.7GB hard drive, err.. excuse me, 34.4GB hard drive for the same price. BUT now that these idiots have to go and sue these companies, they may have to increase the price to cover the cost of the lawsuit. Who get it in the a$$ at the end?

 

[Ronstang]

Originally posted by: Cyberian

Originally posted by: Ronstang
Well, actually back in the 60's auto manufacturers used to get there engine HP figures on an engine dyno with no transmisson and no belt driven accesories (not even a water pump) so their figures were so overrated it was comical. By the time the engine was in the car with all the accessories hooked up and the driveline losses figured in the actual usable HP was around %60 of what was advertised. Todays cars are rated in net HP at the wheels and that is why a lot of the older "Glory Days" muscle cars are actually slower than the performance cars of today, the HP ratings would lead you to believe different though.

Yeah, that's what I meant by 'brochure' HP - the figure they published in their marketing media.
And, yes, I was there in the '60s. Got my senior license in 1961.

I'll give the nod to the old man then . I'm old for this place but my license didn't come for another 18 years .

 

[smartcap]

The lawyers representing this case will walk away with $$$ of dollars...and consumers like us will be left with the bill..

Originally posted by: kt
What is the f*cking point? So, what if these idiots win the case and the manufacturer had to change to their "real" capacity. Do YOU think they will budge on the price?!?!? NO. You still going to get that 36.7GB hard drive, err.. excuse me, 34.4GB hard drive for the same price. BUT now that these idiots have to go and sue these companies, they may have to increase the price to cover the cost of the lawsuit. Who get it in the a$$ at the end?

 

[Gyrene]

Come on everyone, bitch some more, please.

This case doesn't really matter. If the consumers win, the manufacturer changes the labels. If the consumer loses, nothing happens. Who really gives a damn either way. This is sucha trivial matter.

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: NuclearFusi0n

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: NuclearFusi0n
Bull, one MEGAbyte is precisely 1,000,000 bytes. Use the Mebi prefix if you want to signify a base 2 number. Stop screwing with SI standards. The HD manufacturers are telling the truth, it's the crappy software that confuses M with Mi and G with Gi, etc, that needs fixing. go sue microsoft or something.

2^0 = 1 byte
2^1 = 2 bytes
2^10 = 1024 bytes = 1 kilobyte
2^20 = 1024 kilobytes = 1 megabyte
2^30 = 1024 megabytes = 1 gigabytes
:
:

10^0 = 1 byte
10^1 = 10 bytes
10^3 = 1000 bytes = 1 kilobyte
10^7 = 1000 kilobytes = 1 megabyte

2^0 = 1 byte
2^1 = 2 bytes
2^10 = 1024 bytes = 1 kibibyte
2^20 = 1024 kibibytes = 1 mebibyte
2^30 = 1024 mebibytes = 1 gibibytes

Yeah, you know how many people actually use those prefixes that were proposed by anal-retentive scientists? Not computer-scientists, mind you. It is UNIVERSALLY ACCEPTED that when dealing with computers, the binary equivalent of kilo/mega/giga/etc are used.

Edit: http://whatis.techtarget.com/definition/0,,sid9_gci825099,00.html

Kibi, mebi, gibi, tebi, pebi, and exbi are binary prefix multipliers that, in 1998, were approved as a standard by the International Electrotechnical Commission (IEC) in an effort to eliminate the confusion that sometimes occurs between decimal (power-of-10) and binary (power-of-2) numeration terms.

So if they were approved in 1998, what's your defense for hard drive manufacturers deceiving customers before that?

Edit: I think the lawsuit is dumb, but I think NuclearFusi0n's argument is dumberer