WH Rejects Solyndra Subpoena

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If corruption is discovered, it must be punished, but I have a feeling that this is about to explode into an industry-wide witch hunt....
 
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Pathetic answer from the judge. Yeah, it was against partisan lines either for the reason he said or because the democrats are brown-nosed robots who are following the president regardless.
 
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Hope and change. Or not. More secrecy, more lies, more money to wall street, more wars...

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I wondered how long it would be before this subject showed up here.

Also, I wonder what the WH has to hide. Did someone do something underhanded? I guess time will tell.

Where's Ausm when you need him?
 
Lithium381

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woodie1 said:
I wondered how long it would be before this subject showed up here.

Also, I wonder what the WH has to hide. Did someone do something underhanded? I guess time will tell.

Where's Ausm when you need him?
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I heard about this yesterday afternoon, surprised it took this long!

Anyway, this is BS, you can't deny a subpeona.... it's a standing integral part of our justice system..
 
Thump553

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GOP looking to repeat their practices of the Clinton years-bury the White House in countless and pointless investigations. Just one more facet of their plan to prevent the Dems from accomplishing anything.

The needs of the country be damned. Party is utmost.
 
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I predict that this thread will attract so much spin that it will have its own moon in short order. :)
 
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If you read the letter, the subpoena demands every document that includes the word "Solyndra" in it be delivered within 1 week, and comes after rejecting (without explanation) an offer from the WH to cooperate in satisfying a more focused request.

Maybe the WH does have something to hide, I'm cynical enough that that wouldn't surprise me, but this does look like a partisan fishing expedition.
 
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Replace Obama and Solyndra with Cheney and Haliburton and we'd have the lefties frothing at the mouth demanding Cheney be waterboarded and killed.
 
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Jhhnn

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Lithium381 said:
I heard about this yesterday afternoon, surprised it took this long!

Anyway, this is BS, you can't deny a subpeona.... it's a standing integral part of our justice system..
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It's a congressional subpoena, not one issued by a court, so it has nothing to do with justice, and everything to do with a partisan fishing expedition. It's absurd on its face, anyway, demanding that any document containing the word Solyndra be delivered in 1 week. The Admin can't possibly comply. It's just Repub grandstanding.

Read the WH counsel's letter linked in the piece...
 
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cubby1223

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Thump553 said:
GOP looking to repeat their practices of the Clinton years-bury the White House in countless and pointless investigations. Just one more facet of their plan to prevent the Dems from accomplishing anything.

The needs of the country be damned. Party is utmost.
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Ummm, partisan much?

The original problem here is that the Democrats accomplished nothing without "GOP obstruction". Not only did the Dems not accomplish anything, they spent $500+ million accomplishing nothing.
 
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cubby1223

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Jhhnn said:
It's a congressional subpoena, not one issued by a court, so it has nothing to do with justice, and everything to do with a partisan fishing expedition. It's absurd on its face, anyway, demanding that any document containing the word Solyndra be delivered in 1 week. The Admin can't possibly comply. It's just Repub grandstanding.

Read the WH counsel's letter linked in the piece...
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Really? The White House doesn't keep these documents in electronic form as well, where it is an easy search? Then to gather up all the documents? You seriously think it cannot be done in a week?

Boy you do have a hardcore devotion to Democrats.
 
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cubby1223 said:
Really? The White House doesn't keep these documents in electronic form as well, where it is an easy search? Then to gather up all the documents? You seriously think it cannot be done in a week?

Boy you do have a hardcore devotion to Democrats.
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You also have to look at the fact that they didn't even attempt it.

They should have at least *tried* to comply even if they thought it was "impossible".
 
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Jhhnn

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cubby1223 said:
Really? The White House doesn't keep these documents in electronic form as well, where it is an easy search? Then to gather up all the documents? You seriously think it cannot be done in a week?

Boy you do have a hardcore devotion to Democrats.
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I don't think that's accurate, at all, as the WH lawyer's letter indicates. Obviously, you haven't read it. Every page of 2.5 years of documents would necessarily have to be read & screened to avoid any sort of other disclosures that might not be in the public interest, either.

Or maybe the Obama Admin isn't using the WH mail server at all, kinda like their predecessors used an RNC mail server to avoid disclosure...
 
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cubby1223

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Jhhnn said:
I don't think that's accurate, at all, as the WH lawyer's letter indicates. Obviously, you haven't read it. Every page of 2.5 years of documents would necessarily have to be read & screened to avoid any sort of other disclosures that might not be in the public interest, either.

Or maybe the Obama Admin isn't using the WH mail server at all, kinda like their predecessors used an RNC mail server to avoid disclosure...
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I don't need to read the response to know you're a partisan hack. I thought "transparency" meant that everything was in the public interest.

Doesn't take a genius to realize that documents get requested, documents get subpoenaed. If the White House, Democrat or Republican controlled, doesn't have a staff that handles documents, organizes them for easy access, that is a failure of our government. Give me $500 million and a case of Old Style, I will get those documents fully prepared to congress within a week.
 
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It's the Chicago Way. Obama should have stayed in Illinois where shady business deals are the norm.
 
Bowfinger

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cubby1223 said:
I don't need to read the response to know you're a partisan hack. I thought "transparency" meant that everything was in the public interest.

Doesn't take a genius to realize that documents get requested, documents get subpoenaed. If the White House, Democrat or Republican controlled, doesn't have a staff that handles documents, organizes them for easy access, that is a failure of our government. Give me $500 million and a case of Old Style, I will get those documents fully prepared to congress within a week.
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No you won't. Mind you I agree with you about transparency. Both the Obama and the Bush administrations have fallen fall short in this respect.

That said, it's obvious you have no experience with such discovery requests. They are a lot of work. Many of the documents will only be hard copies, everything must be manually reviewed, and often they require searching deleted and expired documents which requires wading through a lot of old backups. (I don't know if that's an issue in this case.) Demanding everything be delivered in a week is partisan gamesmanship, plain and simple.
 
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Lithium381 said:
regardless of if it's congretional or from a judge.... what are they trying to hide?
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If I were them I'd probably reject it too. The Republicans have been itching to investigate anything they can. To be honest, I'm amazed at how clean the Obama admin apparently is... you know the Republicans have been looking. If Obama says yes to this subpoena you know it won't be the last one, so I would probably make them work for it too. I mean, why make things easier for your enemies than you have to?

That being said, it seems like a legitimate item to subpoena so the courts will eventually side with Congress as best I can tell.
 
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