Westboro Baptist Church to protest funeral of 9-year-old killed in AZ shooting

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Do you now hate fags? If not, their is a GIANT FUCKING FLAW in your logic.

No there isn't.

If anything, these people serve to innoculate a population against hate...as even you on the other end of the pond can see what idiots the WBC guys are. Voicing an unpopular opinion, even if hateful should be legal. Otherwise, those in power will just deem any speech they don't like as hateful to silence dissent. Besides, it isn't like we don't have reasonable restrictions on absolute freedom of speech - you can't shout "Fire" in a crowded theater just to cause a panic.

An interesting point.
 

zinfamous

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That Westboro group should not have the word "church" after it. That's just messed up.

well, their core beliefs aren't that far off from plenty of evangelical, fundie congregations in this country.

plenty of them hate, hate, hate the gays.

They just aren't nearly as vocal about it.
 

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well, their core beliefs aren't that far off from plenty of evangelical, fundie congregations in this country.

plenty of them hate, hate, hate the gays.

They just aren't nearly as vocal about it.

No, their core beliefs are totally screwed up from a true Biblical point of view. They give real Christians a bad name.
 

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I cant understand why the media doesnt ignore them, they just attention whore is all. if no one would cover them then they would go away
 

zinfamous

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No, their core beliefs are totally screwed up from a true Biblical point of view. They give real Christians a bad name.

there are plenty of fundy congregations whose views are skewed far far away from a "true biblical point of view"

just saying.

no one denies that the WBC folks are true nutters, with essentially no direct representatives anywhere else, but I think it would do us all a great disservice to ignore the fact that their core message: fags = evil, is in no way different from far too many mainstream congregations.

I don't think their message of "God is killing soldiers because we support fags" is really a core belief. it's a crazy interpretation from their core beliefs.
 

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They can only sue people who have money.

Pay a couple of crack heads $100 in untraceable cash to deliver the beat down.

/problem
 

NFS4

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WOOT!

Ariz. lawmakers OK ban on protests at funerals

Heading of picketing of funerals for Tucson shooting victims, Arizona's Legislature has unanimously passed emergency legislation outlawing protests at or near funeral sites, KPHO-TV reports.

Gov. Jan Brewer is expected to sign the bill, which would take effect immediately.

The move is aimed at stopping the fringe, anti-gay, Westboro Baptist Church in Topeka, Kan., which said it would picket Thursday's funeral for 9-year-old Christina Taylor Green. The small, fundamentalist congregation has picketed military funerals, calling the deaths God's punishment for the nation's tolerance of homosexuality.

Christina was one of the six people killed in the shooting Saturday that injured U.S. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords and 13 others.

The bill, patterned after an Ohio law, establishes a 300-foot protection zone around a funeral from one hour before until one hour after, The Arizona Republic explains.

http://content.usatoday.com/communi...iz-lawmakers-ok-ban-on-protests-at-funerals/1
 

SphinxnihpS

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No there isn't.

What, am I in the Dead Parrot sketch?

Unless other people turn to hating what Westboro hates BECAUSE of what Westboro says, they are not spreading hate. Even if someone thinks that they now hate fags because of what Westboro says, they are wrong. They now hate fags because of what they think. That is why we have free speech here. It is only powerful if you choose to make it so. The actual speech itself, regardless of how hateful it sounds, is utterly harmless.
 

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No, their core beliefs are totally screwed up from a true Biblical point of view. They give real Christians a bad name.

Did he say most or all or something? No, he said plenty, which is true. Also, your core Christian beliefs are probably totally screwed up. I would call a very tiny percentage of Christians I have ever met Christians based on the definition I have formulated from a vast education on the subject. Christianity is a more introspective and peacenick religion than even Buddhism.
 

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Like I've been saying, you aren't American so you don't understand.

I understand, what you (and america) don't seem to understand is that people shouldn't be able to say whatever they want wherever they want.
 

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I cannot comprehend why you people allow bored house wives to observe every second of your public life through CCTV.

I can't comprehend why you people think that CCTV is a bad idea?! It's only bad for people committing crimes.
 
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As despicable as their actions are, we need to stop paying attention to them and stop giving them the spotlight.

You don't give a minute to the crazy dudes in the subway or on the street, why give a minute to these crazy people protesting funerals?
 

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I understand, what you (and america) don't seem to understand is that people shouldn't be able to say whatever they want wherever they want.

Why not? Why shouldn't they? Fuck you for saying I can't say whatever I want, who the fuck put you in charge of me? Obviously you're a huge piece of shit who thinks they know how to run everyones lives.
 

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Why not? Why shouldn't they? Fuck you for saying I can't say whatever I want, who the fuck put you in charge of me? Obviously you're a huge piece of shit who thinks they know how to run everyones lives.

I know how to get rid of the WBC, we've done it, it works and america thinks they have it right, they don't, we do (with regard to free speech).
 

Mike Gayner

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Why not? Why shouldn't they? Fuck you for saying I can't say whatever I want, who the fuck put you in charge of me? Obviously you're a huge piece of shit who thinks they know how to run everyones lives.

LOL @ moron who believes every person should have unrestrained free speech under any circumstances. BTW, even LOLAmerica doesn't provide unrestrained free speech. But I bet you're about stupid enough to believe it does.