West VA high school attempts to religiously indoctrinate students. Walkout planned in protest.

[HomerJS]

I wonder if a parent can sue the teachers involved in this..

The protesting students said they were forced to attend an event held by the school's Fellowship of Christian Athletes, according to the Associated Press. At the assembly, students heard a sermon by 25-year-old preacher Nik Walker of Nik Walker Ministries.

Under the Constitution's First Amendment, "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion," often interpreted as separating church and state. This separation extends to public schools, which can legally hold religious activities if they are held within non instructional hours. The Fellowship of Christian Athletes assembly was held during such hours, although student attendance at such events is normally voluntary.

During the assembly, students were encouraged to attend services at the nearby Christ Temple Church, where over 200 students were baptized. But some students said that one message heard during the event was that all nonbelievers would go to hell and that they needed to give their lives to God for salvation, according to the AP. Some students who expressed discomfort with the messaging were prohibited from leaving the sermon until it ended.

Students Walk Out After Teachers Sent Them to Christian Event During Class (msn.com)

 

[UNCjigga]

Well, intentionally spawning civil lawsuits that school systems will most certainly lose is one novel way to defund public schooling. I applaud conservatives for their outside-the-box thinking on this.

 

[balloonshark]

Meanwhile their talking about anti-crt bills and banning books in WV.

 

[Amol S.]

I wonder if a parent can sue the teachers involved in this..


Students Walk Out After Teachers Sent Them to Christian Event During Class (msn.com)

If I was a public school student who was being forced attend something religous and did not believe in the stuff that was being preached, and was prevented from leaving, I would have still just got up and left thru the door. If someone tried to stop me, I would just go up to them and tell them to suspend me and just go thru the door. If that didn't work l, I would call CNN, NBC, ABC, CBS, to come quick to the school because the public school was forcing students to watch something that was violating the "separation of church and state". Better yet... I might have called the national child endangerment tipline and claim the school was doing something illegal and to come quick and save us from the act that was being forced upon us.

 

[soulcougher73]

Reminds me of this great scene from Midnight Mass.

 

[pmv]

Sheesh. That's just a normal school day in the UK. Compulsory hymn-singing and prayer and the occasional sermon even in non-religious schools. If you're really unlucky _all_ the state schools near you will be religious ones. If you're spectacularly unlucky they'll all be religious and most of them will refuse to accept you as a pupil because your family can't' prove they are members of a church.

Weird how the country with the most aggressive Christians is the country that at least tries to keep religion out of schools and government. It's entirely the other way round here.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Sheesh. That's just a normal school day in the UK. Compulsory hymn-singing and prayer and the occasional sermon even in non-religious schools. If you're really unlucky _all_ the state schools near you will be religious ones. If you're spectacularly unlucky they'll all be religious and most of them will refuse to accept you as a pupil because your family can't' prove they are members of a church.

Weird how the country with the most aggressive Christians is the country that at least tries to keep religion out of schools and government. It's entirely the other way round here.

That's unfortunate, but Jesus clearly stated that you should force your beliefs on others.

 

[pmv]

That's unfortunate, but Jesus clearly stated that you should force your beliefs on others.

It's just so different. I have memories of making up my own lyrics when singing hymns in school, and of RE being taught by a teacher who was a member of a far-left political party ("Religious Education" being the only subject back then, pre-national-curriculum, that it was legally obligatory for schools to teach, as they were also obliged to have a daily "religious assembly").

Christians here are mostly pretty meek and harmless, but they are deeply entrenched in the state. I suppose that may be cause-and-effect - when you're already part of the establishment you don't need to be aggressive and pushy.

 

[VashHT]

It's just so different. I have memories of making up my own lyrics when singing hymns in school, and of RE being taught by a teacher who was a member of a far-left political party ("Religious Education" being the only subject back then, pre-national-curriculum, that it was legally obligatory for schools to teach, as they were also obliged to have a daily "religious assembly").

Christians here are mostly pretty meek and harmless, but they are deeply entrenched in the state. I suppose that may be cause-and-effect - when you're already part of the establishment you don't need to be aggressive and pushy.

I think the US helped a bit there when we left, we got some of the crazies here who wanted freedom to practice.

 

[ch33zw1z]

It's just so different. I have memories of making up my own lyrics when singing hymns in school, and of RE being taught by a teacher who was a member of a far-left political party ("Religious Education" being the only subject back then, pre-national-curriculum, that it was legally obligatory for schools to teach, as they were also obliged to have a daily "religious assembly").

Christians here are mostly pretty meek and harmless, but they are deeply entrenched in the state. I suppose that may be cause-and-effect - when you're already part of the establishment you don't need to be aggressive and pushy.

I really did not know that religion was so entrenched in government on your side of the pond. Yikes!

 

[Meghan54]

I really did not know that religion was so entrenched in government on your side of the pond. Yikes!

Church of England....ring a bell? Anne Boleyn? Henry VIII? Anyone?

 

[ch33zw1z]

Church of England....ring a bell? Anne Boleyn? Henry VIII? Anyone?

Sure, but is that stuff recent? I don't mind relearning stuff

 

[soulcougher73]

I think the US helped a bit there when we left, we got some of the crazies here who wanted freedom to practice.

OR they were so crazy the UK said "Get the F out!!" ?

 

[HomerJS]

but....but....but...

CRT

 

[eelw]

Rules for thee, not for me.

 

[pmv]

Sure, but is that stuff recent? I don't mind relearning stuff

The monarch can't have their spouse executed to make way for a new one these days...though some have come up with theories to say otherwise.

There are seats in the Lords (the 'second chamber') reserved for C of E Bishops, about a third of state 'high schools' are religious ones (these days including Islamic ones), and the monarch is the head of the Church of England as well as head of state. Charles' idea of modernisation is that he'll pledge himself to be "defender of the faiths" rather than "defender of the faith".

Edit - oh, and, at least until recently (not sure if it changed) it was obligatory to have a daily 'act of worship' in all state schools, plus all TV broadcasters were legally obliged to carry a certain proportion of 'religious programming'. Religion is pandered to pretty relentlessly on a formal, legal, level- and yet it doesn't feel anything like as much of a political presence as in the US.

 

[nakedfrog]

Meanwhile their talking about anti-crt bills and banning books in WV.

Well, yeah, they're trying to build a theocratic fascist state here, this all fits for that.

 

[hal2kilo]

It's just so different. I have memories of making up my own lyrics when singing hymns in school, and of RE being taught by a teacher who was a member of a far-left political party ("Religious Education" being the only subject back then, pre-national-curriculum, that it was legally obligatory for schools to teach, as they were also obliged to have a daily "religious assembly").

Christians here are mostly pretty meek and harmless, but they are deeply entrenched in the state. I suppose that may be cause-and-effect - when you're already part of the establishment you don't need to be aggressive and pushy.

You mean like the constipated cross eyed bear?

 

[Lost_in_the_HTTP]

Well, intentionally spawning civil lawsuits that school systems will most certainly lose is one novel way to defund public schooling.

And, so it begins ....

https://www.usnews.com/news/us/articles/2022-02-17/families-sue-w-va-school-district-over-christian-assembly

 

[DaaQ]

If I was a public school student who was being forced attend something religous and did not believe in the stuff that was being preached, and was prevented from leaving, I would have still just got up and left thru the door. If someone tried to stop me, I would just go up to them and tell them to suspend me and just go thru the door. If that didn't work l, I would call CNN, NBC, ABC, CBS, to come quick to the school because the public school was forcing students to watch something that was violating the "separation of church and state". Better yet... I might have called the national child endangerment tipline and claim the school was doing something illegal and to come quick and save us from the act that was being forced upon us.

Put that into the context of you being a 13 or 14 year old student, you most certainly would not do the above.

At your current age probably but as a young teenager, no you wouldn't.

I went to 8th grade at a Catholic Private School. Let me tell you, I cannot count the number of hours I had to sit through MASS on my knees. Because I was first year in from public school.

I only went that one year.

 

[Bitek]

Yeah, but the youth pastor's trampoline routine WAS dope AF...