Wesley Clark: Throw Radical Muslims Into Internment Camps

[TechBoyJK]

That includes all enemies of the state, right.:whiste:

How many people would still be alive had Roof been locked up in a camp though?

Roof was at war. He should have been treated as such.

 

[Genx87]

How many people would still be alive had Roof been locked up in a camp though?

Roof was at war. He should have been treated as such.

First that would require Roof even be found. Something out govt has failed at miserably. Second how do you propose roof be convicted and tossed into a camp? Third, your thought process is scary. Anybody can be made into an enemy of the state. Imagine how many lives could be saved if we were all locked in a room 24/7?

You are essentially turning a civil law breaker into a prisoner of war. Which allows people to be held until whatever war they waged is over. In the case of Roof he would had been held in a camp forever because the war on racism will go on forever. Really scary stuff you are advocating.

 

[thraashman]

First that would require Roof even be found. Something out govt has failed at miserably. Second how do you propose roof be convicted and tossed into a camp? Third, your thought process is scary. Anybody can be made into an enemy of the state. Imagine how many lives could be saved if we were all locked in a room 24/7?

You are essentially turning a civil law breaker into a prisoner of war. Which allows people to be held until whatever war they waged is over. In the case of Roof he would had been held in a camp forever because the war on racism will go on forever. Really scary stuff you are advocating.

And yet the people who support this freaked out when they incorrectly thought the NDAA would have given Obama power similar to but still less than this. But I guess so long as it's used primarily against people they don't like.

 

[Jaskalas]

Clark is a pretty scholarly general, I'm kinda surprised to hear him say this.

I am surprised to hear anybody say it. I wonder if he envies Trump, or if he's developing a brain tumor. I don't know much about him. Maybe I should be glad of that.

You two need to appreciate the aging process. It involves the decay of one's mind.
The Wesley Clark today is not the Wesley Clark from decades past.

 

[trenchfoot]

You two need to appreciate the aging process. It involves the decay of one's mind.
The Wesley Clark today is not the Wesley Clark from decades past.

Speaking from a personal view of it, I don't appreciate the aging process at all, except it gives me license to get away with more shit than a two year old would.

Wesley Clark made a comment that looks as if he is suffering from the Patton Syndrome, although I'm sure if he were still in the military, his bearing wouldn't have allowed him to say what he said, except to those close to him of whom he trusted.

 

[Atomic Playboy]

Well if it's illegal we don't really need "camps" for that. We already have something in place that would serve the purpose just as well, prisons.

Yeah. And I think the concept of "round them up and put them in camps" is absurd; it's never been used to a positive end at any point in history. If your approach to a problem mirrors that of the Nazis, you might want to rethink your approach. But when free speech veers into the territory of actively colluding with enemies of the state... well, that's no longer a defensible "right."

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Speaking from a personal view of it, I don't appreciate the aging process at all, except it gives me license to get away with more shit than a two year old would.

I'm with you on this, aging is not that much fun. Arthritis is pure evil. :twisted:

I do like being able to blame selective hearing on aging though. The old people's discounts are okay as well. :biggrin:

 

[trenchfoot]

I'm with you on this, aging is not that much fun. Arthritis is pure evil. :twisted:

I do like being able to blame selective hearing on aging though. The old people's discounts are okay as well. :biggrin:

Works for me too, except when the wifey slaps the back of my head with a rolled up newspaper to get my attention. :biggrin::thumbsup:

 

[yllus]

The tea party sorts will cheer this until the federal agents come for them too. Be careful what you wish for.

Clark is a pretty scholarly general, I'm kinda surprised to hear him say this.

Isn't Clark the hothead who wanted NATO troops to fire on Russian trips when they reached the Kosovo airport at the same time? He seems like a dude who gets a little crazy now and again. I'm rather happy that he's retired from active duty.

 

[BoberFett]

I want to ask him just how does one qualify as radicalized in his opinion?

Who cares? Just throw them all in camps. Hey, it works for Democrats. You get called a hero for that sort of thing if you're a Democrat.

We must remember that any oppression, any injustice, any hatred, is a wedge designed to attack our civilization... Except for rounding up those Japs. That's OK.

Edit: To be clear, I'm just poking the bear. Nobody should be in internment camps in the US. We have a justice system for a reason.

 

[Chaotic0ne]

Who decides what's a radical ideology and what's not? It seems like there is a huge hole for subjective interpretation that could be used to lock up critics of the regime as "radicals" in the same way the USSR did. One thing leads to another.

I got an idea!? Maybe Obama should be declared emperor of the USA, which will in turn be renamed the USSA? A nation where all critics get thrown in gulags, and if the mind reading chips planted in every child at birth detect the slightest racist, homophobic, or intolerant thought, then that person is flagged for detainment.

 

[Moonbeam]

Who cares? Just throw them all in camps. Hey, it works for Democrats. You get called a hero for that sort of thing if you're a Democrat.




Edit: To be clear, I'm just poking the bear. Nobody should be in internment camps in the US. We have a justice system for a reason.

I encourage you to indulge this neurosis. You are going to wind up laughing at yourself big time. Then we can party and laugh at ourselves.

 

[werepossum]

No one has the right to declare war on the United States and assume there will be no repercussions. People colluding with our enemies aren't exercising their right to free speech, they're enabling terrorists, and that's pretty fucking illegal. I don't think Clark was really thinking about the political ramifications of saying "stick them in camps," but realistically, if someone is trying to wage jihad from within our borders, why should we allow that?

While I agree with everything you said, if someone is trying to wage jihad from within our borders then we should be able to stick them in prison. If we cannot find the evidence to stick them in prison, then we should not be putting them in camps either. In the hopefully very rare instance that we are absolutely positive they are attempting to harm us but for whatever reason we can't get the evidence to support that accusation, then we have Club Gitmo, but that is not a power I wish to see expanded. That kind of power must be scarce because it is so attractive, and only if it is kept scarce enough that each instance produces a spirited dialogue over it do we have any chance of keeping it limited.

This isn't like drone strikes; these are people fully within American jurisdiction. Personally I see this as more evidence that we should keep Clark as far from power as possible.

 

[BoberFett]

I encourage you to indulge this neurosis. You are going to wind up laughing at yourself big time. Then we can party and laugh at ourselves.

I laugh at you. Not with you. At you.

 

[werepossum]

I laugh at you. Not with you. At you.

Like he can possibly hear your laughter over all the voices in his head!

 

[Moonbeam]

I laugh at you. Not with you. At you.

I encourage you to indulge this neurosis. Poke the bear. You'll get it someday, maybe. You'll wake up understanding that you laugh with me because I laugh at me too. You don't see it yet but the dawn can come when you see that I am you. Then the only difference will be that I knew it first.

 

[Moonbeam]

Like he can possibly hear your laughter over all the voices in his head!

It couldn't be helped that you feel so threatened. You feel like a zero compared to me. You are afraid to feel what feeling like a zero means. Those voices are yours. We zero people don't hear anything but the echoes of fools like you. You long to be more but you don't see that to be more you have to be much much less.

 

[Genx87]

Like he can possibly hear your laughter over all the voices in his head!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cq53JYNAYpk

 

[Blue_Max]

Are we sure Blue_Max isn't the second retarded, misogynistic, coming of Nehalem? He seems to be making one hell of an effort to be the single stupidest mother fucker to ever post on AT.

He does seem to share Nehalem's unique ability to change literally any topic into some raging rant about how much he hates women.

He was probably turned down for a date and went into his bedroom to cry for 15 hours and came out with his 50 page long anti-women "femanistz are destroying the country" manifesto.

Let's see now. I made the point that you sooper-liberal SJW types were crying about possibly not following due process - and pointed out the hypocrisy of how you also want to REMOVE due process to other groups.

So; due process for SOME, not for others - only the groups you feel should have it. And those are the ones in what YOU define as the Progressive Stack (and everyone else calls the Oppression Olympics.)

Did you challenge my statement? As usual, no. Instead, we get the usual gamut of desperate insults and wild accusations, including the ever-popular "loser who can't get laid" which is used every single time. (Come on, I know you guys are only following dogma but you can still have a LITTLE imagination!)

You also can't stick to the issue (a sure sign you've already lost the debate) and again sound the horn, calling shame upon the infidel and crying for your fellows to join in the public shaming to discourage anyone else from challenging your cherished viewpoints. You change my view from challenging 3rd-wave feminism to "hates women" again, a VERY popular strategy used in almost every debate and college demonstration. You won't ALLOW anyone to challenge your views and will lump every hateful accusation in the book at them to silence him, and anyone else considering also speaking out. It's done because it usually works - the meek look away , afraid to stand up to the angry person yelling at someone for fear of calling that enormous negativity onto themselves as well.


In short, I'm not the monster here. You are.