Were you aware that Bush was:

Forsythe

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Text read the editorial note at the top.

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I'm posting this because i feel that many people believe he created jobs, and as i just happened to read this, i felt like posting it. I cba to google it...
 

daniel1113

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Comparing anything to the Great Depression is a stretch. But hey, if you think it will help Kerry win, please continue.
 

Forsythe

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There's no comparison. It's a fact! He's created less jobs, made you a, what, 7trillion$ decifit? He's lousy at controlling the economy!

There's no comparison, but the fact is that NO president between the 1930's and now, has lost jobs.
 

dullard

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Were you aware that News was:
".....the thing said over and over again since the election rhetoric started."

I'm posting this because i feel that many people believe they pay attention to things like debates, and as I just happened to read this thread, I felt like posting the obvious.
 

dahunan

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I am VERY Suprised that "Conservatives" can look past his HORRIBLE SPENDING HABITS
 

charrison

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Originally posted by: Forsythe
There's no comparison. It's a fact! He's created less jobs, made you a, what, 7trillion$ decifit? He's lousy at controlling the economy!

There's no comparison, but the fact is that NO president between the 1930's and now, has lost jobs.

Yes, but no other president has had similar circumstances happen during his term either.
 

her209

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That's saying a lot when even the Carter administration created jobs.
 

Forsythe

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Originally posted by: ICISII
Bush
1.He has a proven record of fighting for our rights.
2.He is focused and has not strayed off path
3.His economic policy has CREATED JOBS.

This was what started it.

Like what? Nothing is holding the economy back. The reason for the climbing oil prices is the war in Iraq. Which then again turned out to be completely unjustified! And other politicians would definently have started campaigns, but no. He's still hanging in there for the war.
 

Tylanner

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This thread honestly deserves a cookie, or something.

It has no doubt been discussed to no end here, and is currently being discussed in a thread which appears on the first page..
 

her209

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Originally posted by: ICISII
Bush
1.He has a proven record of fighting for our rights.
2.He is focused and has not strayed off path
3.His economic policy has CREATED JOBS.
1. By fighting to ban gay marraige and a woman's right to choice.
2. By shifting focus from Afghanistan to Iraq.
3. Jobs that pay less than what they used to. Seriously tho, I don't know any of presidents that put forth policies that intentionally causes a loss of jobs.
 
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Originally posted by: Forsythe
Originally posted by: ICISII
Bush
1.He has a proven record of fighting for our rights.
2.He is focused and has not strayed off path
3.His economic policy has CREATED JOBS.

This was what started it.
Actually it turns out that bush's policies have created jobs, many jobs, over one million jobs.

bush's policies, on the other hand, didn't lose the 3million jobs that came in the first year of his presidency, many of which followed 9/11.

The ignorant brain washing on the left is so ingrained in your psyche by the media i would expect you *that is you's guys, or "yall", or Vosotros" go around singing to yourself "idiot American"

1. By fighting to ban gay marraige and a woman's right to choice.
Yes morality is someting you crazy liberals have trouble geting a handle on.
2. By shifting focus from Afghanistan to Iraq.
In a battle zone that you can actualy win in. Afganistan is not the place to fight terrorists. Or strike at the roots of terrorism.

3. I don't know any of presidents that put forth policies that intentionally causes a loss of jobs.
apparently Herbert Hoover was over 5times worse than bush, but even after the great depression lead in the polls 'tell he said he was "not president of the economy"
 

Crimson

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Originally posted by: LordMagnusKain
Originally posted by: Forsythe
Originally posted by: ICISII
Bush
1.He has a proven record of fighting for our rights.
2.He is focused and has not strayed off path
3.His economic policy has CREATED JOBS.

This was what started it.
Actually it turns out that bush's policies have created jobs, many jobs, over one million jobs.

bush's policies, on the other hand, didn't lose the 3million jobs that dame in the first year of his presidency, many of which followed 9/11.

The ignorant brain washing on the left is so ingrained in your psyche by the media i would expect you go around singing to yourself "idiot American"

Exactly.. Take out the immediate effects of 9/11 and the first year of his Presidency which clearly he could not have influence over, and he HAS created jobs.. ESPECIALLY since his tax cut..
 

Vic

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He's also the first president with a criminal record.

If Kerry is elected, he will be only the second president to have ever divorced, with Reagan having been the first.

Statistics are fun :)
 

her209

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Originally posted by: LordMagnusKain
1. Yes morality is someting you crazy liberals have trouble geting a handle on.
Sorry, your Christian morals are not mine. Liberals aren't trying to ban something just because Jesus said so.
2. Afganistan is not the place to fight terrorists.
Really? I could of swore the Taliban and al Queda are still there? What happened to the "We will not stop in the hunt for terrorists."
3. apparently Herbert Hoover was over 5times worse than bush, but even after the great depression lead in the polls 'tell he said he was "not president of the economy"
Again, how can Bush claim that his policies created jobs, and then turn around and say I have no control over the economy?
 

BBond

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Could'a, would'a, should'a.

George W. Bush IS the first president in over 70 years, since Herbert Hoover of Great Depression fame, whose term ended with a net job loss. It's a historical fact. Bush adds to this accomplishemt the largest budget deficit in U.S. history (coming on the heels of the Clinton surplus), as well as the highest national debt in history .

And the jobs that have been created are paying less than the jobs that disappeared.

The Bush administration has turned Bedford Falls into Pottersville.

 

element

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Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: Forsythe
There's no comparison. It's a fact! He's created less jobs, made you a, what, 7trillion$ decifit? He's lousy at controlling the economy!

There's no comparison, but the fact is that NO president between the 1930's and now, has lost jobs.

Yes, but no other president has had similar circumstances happen during his term either.

You mean 911? Pales in comparison to Pearl Harbor, Nam, WWI, WWII...
 

BBond

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Originally posted by: element
Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: Forsythe
There's no comparison. It's a fact! He's created less jobs, made you a, what, 7trillion$ decifit? He's lousy at controlling the economy!

There's no comparison, but the fact is that NO president between the 1930's and now, has lost jobs.

Yes, but no other president has had similar circumstances happen during his term either.

You mean 911? Pales in comparison to Pearl Harbor, Nam, WWI, WWII...

...and this president doesn't include the price of his Iraq fiasco in his economic figures.

 

lordtyranus

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Originally posted by: Forsythe
Originally posted by: ICISII
Bush
1.He has a proven record of fighting for our rights.
2.He is focused and has not strayed off path
3.His economic policy has CREATED JOBS.

This was what started it.

Like what? Nothing is holding the economy back. The reason for the climbing oil prices is the war in Iraq. Which then again turned out to be completely unjustified! And other politicians would definently have started campaigns, but no. He's still hanging in there for the war.

Wrong, according to oil experts around the world. Increased demand has contributed to rising oil prices.
 

Emveach

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The problem with the jobless totals are that they are misleading. The poll is done by checking with about 4000 compinies in the US to see if people have been fired, quit, or had lay offs. They count all of those as job losses, and thats where the number comes from. They don't include people who started their own buisness and hired people. They don't count anyone that left for a smaller company. As far as the polls see, they are just a person who lost a job.

The same is done with health insurance. If you even had 1 day of no covorage due to changing jobs, you are counted for the year as being uninsured.

Until polls and surveys are able to check with every company and every self owned buisness in the US, these numbers are useless.
 

miketheidiot

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Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: Forsythe
There's no comparison. It's a fact! He's created less jobs, made you a, what, 7trillion$ decifit? He's lousy at controlling the economy!

There's no comparison, but the fact is that NO president between the 1930's and now, has lost jobs.

Yes, but no other president has had similar circumstances happen during his term either.

He fought 2 wars. Do you know what happens to the economy when you go to war? The economy gets better fast, especially in a recession. What do you think finally fixed germany's economy after ww1, and pulled us out of the great depression?

Afganistan is not the place to fight terrorists.

All i can say is wow.
 

miketheidiot

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Originally posted by: Crimson
Originally posted by: LordMagnusKain
Originally posted by: Forsythe
Originally posted by: ICISII
Bush
1.He has a proven record of fighting for our rights.
2.He is focused and has not strayed off path
3.His economic policy has CREATED JOBS.

This was what started it.
Actually it turns out that bush's policies have created jobs, many jobs, over one million jobs.

bush's policies, on the other hand, didn't lose the 3million jobs that dame in the first year of his presidency, many of which followed 9/11.

The ignorant brain washing on the left is so ingrained in your psyche by the media i would expect you go around singing to yourself "idiot American"

Exactly.. Take out the immediate effects of 9/11 and the first year of his Presidency which clearly he could not have influence over, and he HAS created jobs.. ESPECIALLY since his tax cut..

You realize that he is not creating enough jobs to keep up with the growth in population.