We're in trouble. I have a bad feeling about this.

[Scipionix]

What our college students believe

 

[Nitemare]

Just goes to show you what raising sissy's who have been sheltered their whole lives are turning into.

 

[Pepsi90919]

wtf is that crap?

College Students Do Not Believe American Values Are Superior to the Values of Other Nations

 

[Fausto]

All that info really needs to be taken with a grain of salt considering the nature of the site, I'd say.

 

[amnesiac]

I will admit I didn't know who Condoleezza Rice was. But check out these responses:

One individual named Yitzhak Rabin as the current prime minister, even though he was assassinated almost a decade ago, while another said Vladimir Putin, the current Russian president, was the prime minister of Israel

One student thought British Prime Minister Tony Blair was the American secretary of defense.

Now THAT is ignorance.

 

[StageLeft]

I consider my knowledge of current affairs decent. However I do mix up names quite clearly as evidenced by the fact that i can name the president of pakistan, the US sec of defense, the PM of israel, and leader of palestinian authority.

UN sec general, NSA - oh wait is that ashcroft?, and US sec of state I mix up

But remember I've only lived here a year

 

[GrumpyMan]

Sounds like they need to be on Jay Leno's Allstars.

 

[Scipionix]

Originally posted by: Fausto1
All that info really needs to be taken with a grain of salt considering the nature of the site, I'd say.

They included the wording of the questions. I don't know what you expect. Ad hominem attacks don't work now just because we've become postmodern.

 

[chemos]

doesn't surprise me.. really. do the same survey on working professionals and i'm sure you'll be similarly dissatisfied. i've only gotten a couple years of college (and never went back) and while i was attending, current events really wasn't a heavily explored topic in most classes. political science hit it pretty hard and sociology touched on it.

those who don't follow the news aren't going to know the names of people in current events, whether they're in college or otherwise. of course, if you're too busy throwing back beers and shagging freshmen, you aren't going to have a good understanding of current events.

Jonathan

 

[Zebo]

LOL look how infamous PLO chairman is though over 50%.

I don't give these current events stuff much creedane or coorelation to intellegence tough. Some folks have trashed thier TV and stop playing attention all together since it's the same sh1t over and over- year after year.

What worries me more is those stats interviews showing basic lack understnding of science and math. That effects us econmically down the road.

 

[kranky]

Man, that story made me want to cry. There's so much to pick on but I'll take just one tidbit.

"Only 35% of college students today would be willing to serve and fight anywhere in the world."

BUT

"66% believe the U.S. government has the right to invade Iraq."

I don't think I've ever seen such a selfish attitude presented so clearly. "Sure, we have the right to invade Iraq, but don't ask me to be involved. Can't you get somebody else to do it?"

 

[Rainsford]

Originally posted by: Scipionix
What our college students believe

Not to put too fine a point on this, but in my experience college students have more of an understanding of current events than the average adult. And survey after survey points out how stupid adults are about current events.

But that doesn't matter, I don't think "we are in trouble" at all. Despite what a lot of people would like to think, people have always been ignorant about most things like this. You can believe otherwise of course, but this is just the nostalgic feeling a lot of people have for when the government wasn't corrupt, everyone was honest, and kids were well behaved. But every generation seems to think that the next generation is a bunch of stupid, ignorant, lazy trouble makers. Ask your grandparents about this if you are in college right now. You might find the answer interesting.

 

[StageLeft]

But that doesn't matter, I don't think "we are in trouble" at all. Despite what a lot of people would like to think, people have always been ignorant about most things like this. You can believe otherwise of course, but this is just the nostalgic feeling a lot of people have for when the government wasn't corrupt, everyone was honest, and kids were well behaved. But every generation seems to think that the next generation is a bunch of stupid, ignorant, lazy trouble makers. Ask your grandparents about this if you are in college right now. You might find the answer interesting.

Well said - the recent survey of adults in america in regards to science echos your statement.

 

[rudder]

Originally posted by: kranky
Man, that story made me want to cry. There's so much to pick on but I'll take just one tidbit.

"Only 35% of college students today would be willing to serve and fight anywhere in the world."

BUT

"66% believe the U.S. government has the right to invade Iraq."

I don't think I've ever seen such a selfish attitude presented so clearly. "Sure, we have the right to invade Iraq, but don't ask me to be involved. Can't you get somebody else to do it?"

exactly what I was thinking. What a bunch of couch potato, video game playing, sheltered suburban upbringing bunch of pansies.

 

[XZeroII]

The report was probably made by some idiot who just forgot about it until the day before, then just made up some numbers based on what he/she thought would look right.

 

[ThePresence]

Sad.

 

[Scipionix]

Originally posted by: Rainsford
Not to put too fine a point on this, but in my experience college students have more of an understanding of current events than the average adult. And survey after survey points out how stupid adults are about current events.

College students may have more knowledge, but not more understanding.

 

[Rainsford]

Originally posted by: Scipionix

Originally posted by: Rainsford
Not to put too fine a point on this, but in my experience college students have more of an understanding of current events than the average adult. And survey after survey points out how stupid adults are about current events.

College students may have more knowledge, but not more understanding.

I think they have both. In my experience, college students are the only people interested in current events. Older people seem to care less about what's happening in the world that doesn't effect them. I may be biased (I'm a college student), but a lot of adults I know don't seem to know or care what's happening in the world, while college students seem to care a lot about it.

 

[Rainsford]

Originally posted by: rudder

Originally posted by: kranky
Man, that story made me want to cry. There's so much to pick on but I'll take just one tidbit.

"Only 35% of college students today would be willing to serve and fight anywhere in the world."

BUT

"66% believe the U.S. government has the right to invade Iraq."

I don't think I've ever seen such a selfish attitude presented so clearly. "Sure, we have the right to invade Iraq, but don't ask me to be involved. Can't you get somebody else to do it?"

exactly what I was thinking. What a bunch of couch potato, video game playing, sheltered suburban upbringing bunch of pansies.

Yeah, all college students are lazy, selfish, cowardly morons. </sarcasm>

Do you even know any college students? The people I know don't fit that at all, certainly no more than the average person.

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: kranky
Man, that story made me want to cry. There's so much to pick on but I'll take just one tidbit.

"Only 35% of college students today would be willing to serve and fight anywhere in the world."

BUT

"66% believe the U.S. government has the right to invade Iraq."

I don't think I've ever seen such a selfish attitude presented so clearly. "Sure, we have the right to invade Iraq, but don't ask me to be involved. Can't you get somebody else to do it?"

What you mean we can't just use our NES joystick here at home and overthrow Saddam with "smart" bombs?

 

[Czar]

I'm more worried about the people who did this poll

College students do not see America as representing superior values. A barely measurable 5% "strongly agree" that the values of the United States are superior to the values of other nations (20% somewhat agree). By comparison, fully 71% disagree with the statement that U.S. values are superior, and 34% "strongly disagree."

and that makes a total of 130%

 

[rbhawcroft]

Originally posted by: rudder

Originally posted by: kranky
Man, that story made me want to cry. There's so much to pick on but I'll take just one tidbit.

"Only 35% of college students today would be willing to serve and fight anywhere in the world."

BUT

"66% believe the U.S. government has the right to invade Iraq."

I don't think I've ever seen such a selfish attitude presented so clearly. "Sure, we have the right to invade Iraq, but don't ask me to be involved. Can't you get somebody else to do it?"

exactly what I was thinking. What a bunch of couch potato, video game playing, sheltered suburban upbringing bunch of pansies.

educated people use patriotic grunts to do combat and thier patriotic contemporaries to fly planes, didnt you know?

 

[schmedy]

I'm more worried about the people who did this poll


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College students do not see America as representing superior values. A barely measurable 5% "strongly agree" that the values of the United States are superior to the values of other nations (20% somewhat agree). By comparison, fully 71% disagree with the statement that U.S. values are superior, and 34% "strongly disagree."
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and that makes a total of 130%

Czar, the 71% is the adding of the TOTAL disagree (37+34) and then they show the STRONGLY after, I am guessing to stress how many really feal strongly against it.

 

[gopunk]

i don't trust that site.

 

[notfred]

Any questions that have:
"Strongly Agree, Agree, Somewhat agree, somewhat disagree, Strongly Disagree"
For the answers should be considered null and void. The answeres almost NEVER fit the question, and the questions are usulally vague.

"the values of the US are superior to the values of other nations"
Do you agree? Well that depends, are they better than the values of Iran? Yeah, probably. Are they better than the values of the UK or Canada? Probably not. How do you define "the values of a nation" anyway? who's values count as the values of a nation? The president/dictator/etc's values? an average segment of the people values? the values that are shown by the militray?

It's a poor question.