Were any of you planning on buying a GeforceFX...

magomago

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...now just going to get the cheaper Radeon 9700?

Or will you wait for the R350 and buy that knowing the R300?


And one more thing- what is the codename for the 9500pro
 

flexy

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i was to get a FX in some months (when i have the money that is, for my next system)...

Now, instead, i will buy either a R350 or R400, looking forward what ATI will present soon.

I would consider a R300 now (or better, 9500 and mod it to a 9700... :) if i'd have to build a top-notch system 'now' - but in a few months i'll see
how R350 is doing.......FX does not even play a role anymore since i dont like overprized, outdated technology :)

 

Xentropy

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Er, what about none of the above? Waiting for NV35, or a quieter-but-equal-clocked NV30 Ultra solution, or stable drivers for the R300 (or R350), or a surprise Parhelia II from Matrox that lives up to the original's hype. LOL Basically waiting for any company to get their act together and produce a card without a glaring flaw that I can put in a high end (3.06Ghz) system! Ti4600's just don't cut it anymore.
 

BD231

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You can't be totally sure what the cost will be, if it's high then the card is simply not worth it, if it's priced low then I'd expect people to buy it and make due with any restrictions and downsides it has. It's a fast card but when you consider the amount of heat, noise and space that's going to be accompanied with it, I don't think many would want it at a high price when there's a equal and or better option available.
 

BD231

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Originally posted by: Xentropy
Er, what about none of the above? Waiting for NV35, or a quieter-but-equal-clocked NV30 Ultra solution, or stable drivers for the R300 (or R350), or a surprise Parhelia II from Matrox that lives up to the original's hype. LOL Basically waiting for any company to get their act together and produce a card without a glaring flaw that I can put in a high end (3.06Ghz) system! Ti4600's just don't cut it anymore.

ATI's 3.0 drivers are fine.
 

ultimatebob

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No, not really. Even the fastest video cards on the market will be obsolete in 18 months, and I don't feel like paying the extra $200 just to be the first person on the block that owns one.

I might consider buying an FX when they release a quietier $150 model that only takes up 1 motherboard slot, but not a moment sooner.
 

fyleow

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Originally posted by: ultimatebob
No, not really. Even the fastest video cards on the market will be obsolete in 18 months, and I don't feel like paying the extra $200 just to be the first person on the block that owns one.

I might consider buying an FX when they release a quietier $150 model that only takes up 1 motherboard slot, but not a moment sooner.

Even the last generation GeForce 4 Ti 4600 isn't down to $150 yet, you're going to be waiting awhile.
 

ultimatebob

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Originally posted by: fyleow
Originally posted by: ultimatebob
No, not really. Even the fastest video cards on the market will be obsolete in 18 months, and I don't feel like paying the extra $200 just to be the first person on the block that owns one.

I might consider buying an FX when they release a quietier $150 model that only takes up 1 motherboard slot, but not a moment sooner.

Even the last generation GeForce 4 Ti 4600 isn't down to $150 yet, you're going to be waiting awhile.

True, but you can get a Ti 4200 that is almost as fast for $130.
 

CraigRT

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I might get a 9700 pro soon when the prices are around like $350 or so Canadian.
not getting an FX any time in it's early release thats 100% for sure.
 

BDawg

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I wonder if anyone out there pre-ordered a Parhelia, but cancelled it after the reviews, and then did the same for a GFX
 

RayEarth

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I was planning on buying a geforce fx along with the new MB from intel in march. Since raven shield got delayed til march, this works out fine, I will see what's available in march and make a decision then. I don't know when the R350 is coming out but if it's also in march that would be good.

The curse of the FX is taking it's toll on the Geforce, 3DFX voodoo powers are pulling Nvidia down, dohh!
 

Thor86

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Originally posted by: Yield
I might get a 9700 pro soon when the prices are around like $350 or so Canadian.
not getting an FX any time in it's early release thats 100% for sure.

$350 Canadian? Good !#$%ing luck. That won't happen until the R350 is out in retail. :)
 

Megatomic

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I was going to be getting one but the Ultra is not for me, not at $400 with the high noise and adequate performance I saw today. I might get the 5800 (standard model) if it is quieter and offers significantly better performance than my 4200 @ 275/550.

I am very sad today. :(
 

caboob

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if the R400 is the part that has an 0.13um core mated to DDR2 using that 256- memory bit bus then that's the puppy i'm waiting for.
 

jeffrey

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I am in need of a videocard upgrade and was eagerly awaiting the GeForce FX.
I now know my time has been wasted.
I could have enjoyed just as good of a card months ago:frown:
 

bluemax

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a 9500-pro or 9700NP are the best deal for now. If you need that much juice at all.
 

apoppin

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Originally posted by: BDawg
I wonder if anyone out there pre-ordered a Parhelia, but cancelled it after the reviews, and then did the same for a GFX
Who would admit it?

:p

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vetteguy

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Isn't this the age-old upgrade dillemma? I mean, the same thing can be asked when a new procesor, motherboard, (to a lesser extent) sound card, etc. comes out. It really should just boil down to

a. What can you afford, and
b. How much are you willing to spend to meet your wants/needs?

If you have the money to get a 9700 Pro or an FX, it comes down to which is your preference. If money's an issue, then obviously buying behind the curve is the best method. And I think it's funny how soon after something new comes out that the stuff that's currently on the market becomes the "crap".

I bought 2 G4 4600's last spring/summer, because I could and they were what I wanted. There is not much that a 9700 or FX can do that those cards can't, so I won't upgrade this time. Maybe next year, and then it will be based on what I want and have to spend.
 

magomago

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I think Matrox's problem was that they thought people would buy a card that made to really play all the games great that are out there right now.

But the thing is people want that "gee wiz" DX9 support even though it will be a LONG while before games even come to use it heavily



that and maybe the fact that its priced over 300 dollars despite being out forever might have somehitng to do with it...

Wasn't it supposed to be a programmable VPU or something?
 

NFS4

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Originally posted by: Yield
I might get a 9700 pro soon when the prices are around like $350 or so Canadian.
not getting an FX any time in it's early release thats 100% for sure.

Hehe, I just got one for $295 US from NewEgg.
 

apoppin

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Anybody Check out NV News? It's like Nvidia "died"

:Q

THIS is from Nvidia FANS:

More post-FX thoughts - 1/28/03 2:04 am - By: Typedef Enum - Source:
It looks like that time of year when we all ponder a lot more than usual. Either that, or it sorta feels like a strange journey into the Twilight Zone.
When I think about nVidia, there's one quote that has always stuck with me. nVidia's CEO basically said that they would be just one cycle away from being out of business. That has been the mentality that has driven nVidia to the top over the last several years.

I have taken a good look around to see the general feeling by enthusiasts from around the net, and quite frankly, I cannot recall an episode quite like it. In many regards, this has actually more to do with the impressive engineering at ATI than what nVidia has done with this product.

But without going down that road, I will tell you one of the reasons why this product has underwhelmed so many people. Let me preface it by stating that I, by no means, am pointing the finger at one one individual . However, let me point you to an example from Anandtech's final review of the ATI Radeon 9700.


<<Based on the current specs of NV30, believe it or not, it will be faster than the Radeon 9700. Since both ATI and NVIDIA must support DirectX 9, you can already guess at a lot of the specifications for NV30. It will obviously have support for Pixel and Vertex Shader 2.0; you can expect it to have 8 pipes and with ATI and Matrox both sporting a 256-bit DDR memory bus, you can also expect it to have one too. The one benefit NVIDIA will have with NV30 will be that it will be manufactured on a 0.13-micron process. Not only does that mean that NVIDIA?s chip will be smaller but it also means that they can run at higher clock speeds, which can give it the edge over the Radeon 9700.>>


There you have it, a champion has already been crowned well before the product has even finished the final design phase. Folks, this quote was taken from July of 2002! Clearly, there was speculatory information in that quote that didn't even pan out. The way it was worded, it sure didn't sound like speculation, did it?

This is a website that's visited by millions of people, and they have been hyping NV30 to the extent that there was no doubt that NV30 would, indeed, be flat out faster than the ATI part.

In yet another article, a less pronounced statement was made:

We've said this before and it still holds true to date, NV30 is faster than the R300 on paper.


At any rate, I think you see the point. The fact of the matter is that many online websites contributed, in my opinion, to the absolute belief that NV30 was going to destroy all competing products, well before the darn thing was even finished. All this does is hype expectations to...well, basically, what we seemingly have witnessed today. Again, I'm not here to flame Anand, as I have a good deal of respect for the guy, not to mention he attends my alma mater :)

There are just as many websites out there guilty of it as they, and I just think it's a good lesson in life. As they say in NFL? That's why they play the game, no?

These are some of the thoughts swirling in my head. And of course, just my opinion.
Geforce FX Thoughts - 1/27/03 4:07 pm - By: volt - Source:
All of us have been very busy last night and today. Everyone was venturing for a review, and hoped that the work NVIDIA has put into this design would produce a killer card...not so. We found quite a few reviews this morning. Some were good, some decent, and some taken out the blue. I'd just like to say that Geforce FX (NV30) is not what most us wished for. It's more of a prototype for the future (NV35). It's disappointing for a lot of people and nVidiots in particular that this card simply doesn't cut it (based on review samples).
Whether the retail card is going to be much better, I doubt that. It might be by an inch, but it won't matter because most of us will not buy a $400 card with huge fan just for those few FPS. I won't mention "free" Anti-aliasing modes and Anisotropic performance which were in plans (at least AA). It could be because of the drivers, but in my opinion NVIDIA had plenty of time to compile a nice set of Detonators for that occasion. Again, retail cards may (or may not) perform better, but it's hard to achive the quality ATI has shown us with their 256 bit bus compared to NVIDIA's 128 bit. Some say "bandwidth is not everything". It's not, but we need to realize that switching from .15 micron to .13 micron process is a tough job. I can certainly understand that (and I hope you all will).

Based on the reviews, the card does perform well, but it's not a killer. Without that huge fan aka nDustbuster aka VacuumCleaner aka LeafBlower and huge power consumption we would certainly appreciate it more. Let us hope NVIDIA can at least work on those drivers.

-volt


Don't forget to check out the GF-FX Hairdryer and Leafblower PICs on the home page . . . at least their humor is intact. :D
 

bgeh

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might be going to buy a RV350....if my mum allows me to
i think the codename of the Radeon 9500 pro is either R300 or RV300
 

hdeck

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no i was never planning on buying it. i don't plan on buying the new radeon cards when they come out either.
 

HAL01121997

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So glad now that I didn't wait for the GFX. Picked up my first desktop in 5 years in December.

P4 3.06GHz
1GB PC-1066 RDRAM (doh! since the new P4 DDR-II chipset wasn't shipping yet in December)
Radeon 9700 Pro (overclocked to 360MHz core and 680MHz mem :)
SB Audigy 2 6.1
80GB WD 8M cache
Samsung 191T

I am totally happy with rig. The best part is my company is reimbursing me for it as a home PC purchase. :)

Hopefully the Nvidia's successor to GFX is a better showing.

Now if only terabyte HD is available, need more space for the HDTV recordings. 9GB per hour of programming eats through free space like there is no tomorrow.