Went to the shooting range for the first time...

jEct2

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I don't know much about guns. I've always foolishly thought inaccuracy in Counter Strike was exaggerated (emptying a whole clip and still missing 15 ft targets)

But it's true... in the video, I didn't land a single shot on the target. I was literally WTF. The kickback was absolutely startling. It's one thing to watch the recoil in video, but the actual jerk is much more awesome...

Me shooting Kimber Compact .45 :D

My friend shooting the revolver :shocked:

It was fun... ;)

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now with two videos!

 

aiex

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From my own experience of pistol shooting (Bear in mind I am English so the only stuff i have done is with the army) it's all about stance, positioning and taking your time. Don't know how you teach it stateside but we follow 4 marksmanship principles. To cut a long story short, in order to hit the target you gotta make sure the weapon naturally points at the target without undue effort, control your breathing and pace your shots. I normally stand side on with legs quite wide appart.

Have fun

Ai3x
 

jEct2

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Originally posted by: aiex
From my own experience of pistol shooting (Bear in mind I am English so the only stuff i have done is with the army) it's all about stance, positioning and taking your time. Don't know how you teach it stateside but we follow 4 marksmanship principles. To cut a long story short, in order to hit the target you gotta make sure the weapon naturally points at the target without undue effort, control your breathing and pace your shots. I normally stand side on with legs quite wide appart.

Have fun

Ai3x

The shooting range was hilariously shadey. They never asked me if I had prior shooting experience. They just gave me a gun in exchange for my license. If it weren't for my friend, I probably should've shot someone accidently.
 

frankgomez75

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I remember when I first went to a shooting range. My friend let me shoot his 9mm Smith and Wesson. I unloaded 10 shots in rapid succession at a target approx 25feet away and it was pathetic.

I didn't realize the kick it had.

Few months later, I went out and bought a 9MM Glock 19C (Dragonbreathers thats what we call 'em since they shoot thier flames from the holes drilled out on top of the barrel.)
No kick whatsoever! Went to the shooting range and with practice I can hit bullseye from approx. 40feet away. Haven't been in awhile though. Need to go back and get some more practice in.
 

JoeKing

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you want to keep your arms a little more bent to help absorb some of the kickback and to help you compensate quicker.
 

MikeMike

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no CS can be horribly unrealistic (point blank specifically)

ive shot pistols before and you can get off a decent amount of rounds reasonably close together before you just get tired (44 magnum) and this was at about 100 yards.

never shot a full auto.

and i pistol shoot more with my right foot out and behind me a lil for balance.
 

jEct2

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Originally posted by: frankgomez75
I remember when I first went to a shooting range. My friend let me shoot his 9mm Smith and Wesson. I unloaded 10 shots in rapid succession at a target approx 25feet away and it was pathetic.

I didn't realize the kick it had.

Few months later, I went out and bought a 9MM Glock 19C (Dragonbreathers thats what we call 'em since the shoot thier flames from the holes drilled out on top of the barrel.)
No kick whatsoever! Went to the shooting range and with practice I can hit bullseye from approx. 40feet away. Haven't been in awhile though. Need to go back and get some more practice in.

Nice! But wouldn't it ruin the fun and coolness factor if your gun has no kickback?

Ability to skillfully control the recoil + accuracy = FUN
 

jEct2

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Originally posted by: nourdmrolNMT1
no CS can be horribly unrealistic (point blank specifically)

ive shot pistols before and you can get off a decent amount of rounds reasonably close together before you just get tired (44 magnum) and this was at about 100 yards.

never shot a full auto.

and i pistol shoot more with my right foot out and behind me a lil for balance.

I know but it shows what the game is trying to convey. I was absolutely in awe when the target had NO HOLES after that video. It was the exact same feeling I had when I shot CTs with a whole clip and I didn't land a single shot...
 

jEct2

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Originally posted by: KK
thats a 44, right?

44, 45 i don't know. I remember reading 45... I am absolutely clueless when it comes to guns. I don't even know what the hell the numbers refer to.... bullet size?
 

MrBond

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Originally posted by: jEct2
Originally posted by: KK
thats a 44, right?

44, 45 i don't know. I remember reading 45... I am absolutely clueless when it comes to guns. I don't even know what the hell the numbers refer to.... bullet size?
Yeah. 45 refers to 45 caliber, or 0.45 inches in diameter.

 

aiex

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Originally posted by: jEct2
Originally posted by: aiex
From my own experience of pistol shooting (Bear in mind I am English so the only stuff i have done is with the army) it's all about stance, positioning and taking your time. Don't know how you teach it stateside but we follow 4 marksmanship principles. To cut a long story short, in order to hit the target you gotta make sure the weapon naturally points at the target without undue effort, control your breathing and pace your shots. I normally stand side on with legs quite wide appart.

Have fun

Ai3x

The shooting range was hilariously shadey. They never asked me if I had prior shooting experience. They just gave me a gun in exchange for my license. If it weren't for my friend, I probably should've shot someone accidently.

lol, i think that?s why pistols are illegal over here...

Seriously though I'm out on exercise starting next Thursday for a few weeks. We have 12 ROTC cadets joining us. After last years bayonet incident I'm scared, very scared...
 

JulesMaximus

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Originally posted by: jEct2
Originally posted by: aiex
From my own experience of pistol shooting (Bear in mind I am English so the only stuff i have done is with the army) it's all about stance, positioning and taking your time. Don't know how you teach it stateside but we follow 4 marksmanship principles. To cut a long story short, in order to hit the target you gotta make sure the weapon naturally points at the target without undue effort, control your breathing and pace your shots. I normally stand side on with legs quite wide appart.

Have fun

Ai3x

The shooting range was hilariously shadey. They never asked me if I had prior shooting experience. They just gave me a gun in exchange for my license. If it weren't for my friend, I probably should've shot someone accidently.

Well, in all fairness to the shooting range, they probably assumed that you had at least shot a gun before and that you weren't some homicidal maniac.
 

Mo0o

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Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Originally posted by: jEct2
Originally posted by: aiex
From my own experience of pistol shooting (Bear in mind I am English so the only stuff i have done is with the army) it's all about stance, positioning and taking your time. Don't know how you teach it stateside but we follow 4 marksmanship principles. To cut a long story short, in order to hit the target you gotta make sure the weapon naturally points at the target without undue effort, control your breathing and pace your shots. I normally stand side on with legs quite wide appart.

Have fun

Ai3x

The shooting range was hilariously shadey. They never asked me if I had prior shooting experience. They just gave me a gun in exchange for my license. If it weren't for my friend, I probably should've shot someone accidently.

Well, in all fairness to the shooting range, they probably assumed that you had at least shot a gun before and that you weren't some homicidal maniac.

Thats a pretty big assumption
 

bradruth

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Originally posted by: jEct2
I don't know much about guns. I've always foolishly thought inaccuracy in Counter Strike was exaggerated (emptying a whole clip and still missing 15 ft targets)

But it's true... in the video, I didn't land a single shot on the target.

Firing that fast at that distance it's no suprise (although you should have at least hit the *first* shot).
 

JulesMaximus

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Originally posted by: JoeKing
you want to keep your arms a little more bent to help absorb some of the kickback and to help you compensate quicker.

A .45 doesn't kick that much. His problem is that he was shooting at a 25 yard slow fire pistol target placed about 25 yards out with a close combat handgun. He'd do better to place that target out about 10-15 yards and practice at that range. You don't start a gun n00b off shooting at a target the size of a notebook at 25 yards with a short barrel close combat weapon like a Kimber Compact.
 

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