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Originally posted by: CTrain
My Wendy's hasn't carried double stacks in ten years, but if it's deluxe, then it would have mayo, ketchup, 2 pickles, 2 onions, small tomato, lettuce, small piece of cheese and mustard (in the shape of a W.)

The Single comes with mayonaise, ketchup, 4 pickles, 4 onions, bun-sized tomato, lettuce, larger slice of cheese and mustard (in the shape of a "w"!)

The junior patties lose more weight as they cook than the singles do. So although the "net weight before cooking" of what you are buying is the same, then the weight of the meat is still a little less. But for a dollar difference, anyone who orders a single is a dork. Especially if you can order extra pickle and extra onion without being charged.

The people running the Wendy's near you must have a screw loose. A junior cheese deluxe alone (not the doublestacks) cost approximately 77 cents to make. I would assume that the Double Stacks cost about $1.05 or a little less for them. The Junior Bacon Cheeseburger costs $1.02 to make. That and the side salad ($.99 to make) are two of the store's loss leaders. It's easy for fast food restaurants to make the money back because the typical person orders a soda with them, which costs you about a buck, but costs them about 4-5 cents. Talk about profit margin. That's why it's so easy for them to give up a measly 30 cents on combos.

... I've worked at Wendy's for an embarrassing five years and one month. It fits the college class schedule though. 🙂

First I like to say that I've never worked at a Wendy's but your figures are no way correct.
I work in the fast food industry and there is no such thing as a "loss leader"
Fast food have the LOWEST PROFIT MARGIN in the food industry so they can't take a loss in anything.

When McDonalds first started the $1 menu, the highest cost item we had was the Big n Tasty because of the 1/4 meat and that was $.52 food cost.

Like I said I've never worked at a Wendys but a Junior Bacon does not cost $1.02 to make.
At McDonalds....I don't remembered the cost of a Cheeseburger but a Double Cheeseburger cost $.32.
Add a piece of BACON which cost $.13, a Double Bacon would cost $.45 cents.

Surely the variance cannot be that much between Wendy's and McDonalds.



a) Yes, there IS a such thing as a loss leader. We DO lose money for every junior bacon and side salad we sell, and I think it's safe to say I know my stuff around that store.
My store is one of three in Ohio to break 2 million dollars in sales, with about 35% of that being profit. By my math, that's $700,000 A YEAR. We are one of 12 stores in our franchise's district. Granted, the other stores don't do the sales amounts that we do, but even if they only did HALF of what we did, that would be 4.5 MILLION dollars a year in PROFIT. Go ahead and say that fast food has a low profit margin now, because 4.5 million a year for a business that maintains itself is pretty damn good.

b) A piece of Bacon at Wendy's is 11 cents a strip. There are two strips on a junior bacon.

c) You are comparing McDonald's food and Wendy's food. For starters, Wendy's food quality is far beyond Mc Donalds. We don't stick our burgers under a press to cook them, we do it by hand.
I don't know how many times you've been to Wendy's, but we slice every tomato we use daily, prepare the lettuce every morning, and etc. etc. I may not have worked at McDonald's before, but I know in the past they've used lettuce that came pre-chopped in bags, and tomatoes that were pre-sliced. the labor between opening a bag of lettuce and chopping about 60-100 heads daily is quite different.

d) McDonald's uses mostly second-rate beef from South American farms. Wendy's only uses beef from US Farms. Again, quality is the major issue.

e) In the recents years, McDonald's has been trying to mimic Wendy's, making their sandwiches to order, (although they still keep their burgers in a drawer after cooking them! Yum!) Replacing their low-quality salads with more fresh-looking and appealing salads, with more appetizing dressings, even going as far as trying to introduce Chili to their menu. That tells me that clearly Wendy's is on top, and although McDonald's may not be failing, they are definately worried that they might.
 
I don't eat a Wendy's much.

Mainly b/c I used to work for them and I know how they prepare their food. ick!
 
Originally posted by: ness1469
Originally posted by: CTrain
My Wendy's hasn't carried double stacks in ten years, but if it's deluxe, then it would have mayo, ketchup, 2 pickles, 2 onions, small tomato, lettuce, small piece of cheese and mustard (in the shape of a W.)

The Single comes with mayonaise, ketchup, 4 pickles, 4 onions, bun-sized tomato, lettuce, larger slice of cheese and mustard (in the shape of a "w"!)

The junior patties lose more weight as they cook than the singles do. So although the "net weight before cooking" of what you are buying is the same, then the weight of the meat is still a little less. But for a dollar difference, anyone who orders a single is a dork. Especially if you can order extra pickle and extra onion without being charged.

The people running the Wendy's near you must have a screw loose. A junior cheese deluxe alone (not the doublestacks) cost approximately 77 cents to make. I would assume that the Double Stacks cost about $1.05 or a little less for them. The Junior Bacon Cheeseburger costs $1.02 to make. That and the side salad ($.99 to make) are two of the store's loss leaders. It's easy for fast food restaurants to make the money back because the typical person orders a soda with them, which costs you about a buck, but costs them about 4-5 cents. Talk about profit margin. That's why it's so easy for them to give up a measly 30 cents on combos.

... I've worked at Wendy's for an embarrassing five years and one month. It fits the college class schedule though. 🙂

First I like to say that I've never worked at a Wendy's but your figures are no way correct.
I work in the fast food industry and there is no such thing as a "loss leader"
Fast food have the LOWEST PROFIT MARGIN in the food industry so they can't take a loss in anything.

When McDonalds first started the $1 menu, the highest cost item we had was the Big n Tasty because of the 1/4 meat and that was $.52 food cost.

Like I said I've never worked at a Wendys but a Junior Bacon does not cost $1.02 to make.
At McDonalds....I don't remembered the cost of a Cheeseburger but a Double Cheeseburger cost $.32.
Add a piece of BACON which cost $.13, a Double Bacon would cost $.45 cents.

Surely the variance cannot be that much between Wendy's and McDonalds.



a) Yes, there IS a such thing as a loss leader. We DO lose money for every junior bacon and side salad we sell, and I think it's safe to say I know my stuff around that store.
My store is one of three in Ohio to break 2 million dollars in sales, with about 35% of that being profit. By my math, that's $700,000 A YEAR. We are one of 12 stores in our franchise's district. Granted, the other stores don't do the sales amounts that we do, but even if they only did HALF of what we did, that would be 4.5 MILLION dollars a year in PROFIT. Go ahead and say that fast food has a low profit margin now, because 4.5 million a year for a business that maintains itself is pretty damn good.

b) A piece of Bacon at Wendy's is 11 cents a strip. There are two strips on a junior bacon.

c) You are comparing McDonald's food and Wendy's food. For starters, Wendy's food quality is far beyond Mc Donalds. We don't stick our burgers under a press to cook them, we do it by hand.
I don't know how many times you've been to Wendy's, but we slice every tomato we use daily, prepare the lettuce every morning, and etc. etc. I may not have worked at McDonald's before, but I know in the past they've used lettuce that came pre-chopped in bags, and tomatoes that were pre-sliced. the labor between opening a bag of lettuce and chopping about 60-100 heads daily is quite different.

d) McDonald's uses mostly second-rate beef from South American farms. Wendy's only uses beef from US Farms. Again, quality is the major issue.

e) In the recents years, McDonald's has been trying to mimic Wendy's, making their sandwiches to order, (although they still keep their burgers in a drawer after cooking them! Yum!) Replacing their low-quality salads with more fresh-looking and appealing salads, with more appetizing dressings, even going as far as trying to introduce Chili to their menu. That tells me that clearly Wendy's is on top, and although McDonald's may not be failing, they are definately worried that they might.
One of my old HS buddies is now a manager of McDonald's somewhere in PA. He seems to be damn proud of it... I just can't see it... as much profit as these "corporations" make... I can't see anyone being proud of working for a fast food company no matter the position held... no personal offense to you, of course.
 
Seriously man, you really need to do some more research.

The profit margin for fast food is typically 5%-7.5% of sales.
Your figure of 35% profit is laughable.
Nobody in fast food makes 35% profit.

In fast food, we usually measure ourself by PAC(Profit after Controllable) which can usually hover around 35%.
After that then you have to subtract things you can't control like RENT, DEPRECIATION, TAXES, etc....
Which is how you to get to the 5%-7.5% profit margin.

And don't tell me about the quality between Wendy's and McDonalds.
I'm not going to debate with you who uses better quality.
Even you stated that a piece of BACON cost .11 cents. Thats .22 cents so you're telling me 1 small piece of meat, a slice of cheese and buns cost .80 cents ??? Don't be absurd !!
If it cost McDonalds around ~ .45 cents to make a Bacon Cheeseburger......its not going to cost Wendy's $1.02.......Get real here.

BTW, I'm a store manager at one of the McDonalds.
 
Originally posted by: rh71
Originally posted by: ness1469
Originally posted by: CTrain
My Wendy's hasn't carried double stacks in ten years, but if it's deluxe, then it would have mayo, ketchup, 2 pickles, 2 onions, small tomato, lettuce, small piece of cheese and mustard (in the shape of a W.)

The Single comes with mayonaise, ketchup, 4 pickles, 4 onions, bun-sized tomato, lettuce, larger slice of cheese and mustard (in the shape of a "w"!)

The junior patties lose more weight as they cook than the singles do. So although the "net weight before cooking" of what you are buying is the same, then the weight of the meat is still a little less. But for a dollar difference, anyone who orders a single is a dork. Especially if you can order extra pickle and extra onion without being charged.

The people running the Wendy's near you must have a screw loose. A junior cheese deluxe alone (not the doublestacks) cost approximately 77 cents to make. I would assume that the Double Stacks cost about $1.05 or a little less for them. The Junior Bacon Cheeseburger costs $1.02 to make. That and the side salad ($.99 to make) are two of the store's loss leaders. It's easy for fast food restaurants to make the money back because the typical person orders a soda with them, which costs you about a buck, but costs them about 4-5 cents. Talk about profit margin. That's why it's so easy for them to give up a measly 30 cents on combos.

... I've worked at Wendy's for an embarrassing five years and one month. It fits the college class schedule though. 🙂

First I like to say that I've never worked at a Wendy's but your figures are no way correct.
I work in the fast food industry and there is no such thing as a "loss leader"
Fast food have the LOWEST PROFIT MARGIN in the food industry so they can't take a loss in anything.

When McDonalds first started the $1 menu, the highest cost item we had was the Big n Tasty because of the 1/4 meat and that was $.52 food cost.

Like I said I've never worked at a Wendys but a Junior Bacon does not cost $1.02 to make.
At McDonalds....I don't remembered the cost of a Cheeseburger but a Double Cheeseburger cost $.32.
Add a piece of BACON which cost $.13, a Double Bacon would cost $.45 cents.

Surely the variance cannot be that much between Wendy's and McDonalds.



a) Yes, there IS a such thing as a loss leader. We DO lose money for every junior bacon and side salad we sell, and I think it's safe to say I know my stuff around that store.
My store is one of three in Ohio to break 2 million dollars in sales, with about 35% of that being profit. By my math, that's $700,000 A YEAR. We are one of 12 stores in our franchise's district. Granted, the other stores don't do the sales amounts that we do, but even if they only did HALF of what we did, that would be 4.5 MILLION dollars a year in PROFIT. Go ahead and say that fast food has a low profit margin now, because 4.5 million a year for a business that maintains itself is pretty damn good.

b) A piece of Bacon at Wendy's is 11 cents a strip. There are two strips on a junior bacon.

c) You are comparing McDonald's food and Wendy's food. For starters, Wendy's food quality is far beyond Mc Donalds. We don't stick our burgers under a press to cook them, we do it by hand.
I don't know how many times you've been to Wendy's, but we slice every tomato we use daily, prepare the lettuce every morning, and etc. etc. I may not have worked at McDonald's before, but I know in the past they've used lettuce that came pre-chopped in bags, and tomatoes that were pre-sliced. the labor between opening a bag of lettuce and chopping about 60-100 heads daily is quite different.

d) McDonald's uses mostly second-rate beef from South American farms. Wendy's only uses beef from US Farms. Again, quality is the major issue.

e) In the recents years, McDonald's has been trying to mimic Wendy's, making their sandwiches to order, (although they still keep their burgers in a drawer after cooking them! Yum!) Replacing their low-quality salads with more fresh-looking and appealing salads, with more appetizing dressings, even going as far as trying to introduce Chili to their menu. That tells me that clearly Wendy's is on top, and although McDonald's may not be failing, they are definately worried that they might.
One of my old HS buddies is now a manager of McDonald's somewhere in PA. He seems to be damn proud of it... I just can't see it... as much profit as these "corporations" make... I can't see anyone being proud of working for a fast food company no matter the position held... no personal offense to you, of course.


I'm really not proud at all but I think I'm getting paid decent.
Its actually a very stressful job(even more stressful that I'm in charge of a store) but I'll wait till the economy is better.
I usually make fun of myself when I have to tell people I'm a manager there.
Its just that ATOT people are so fascinate with McDonalds that I have to chime in in every McD thread.
I always feel compelled to defend McDonalds in one way or the other.

 
Originally posted by: Vortex
Originally posted by: Ime
Originally posted by: Vortex
Originally posted by: Ime
Originally posted by: Vortex
i just got a job at wendys, learned alot in this thread 😛 (havent started yet)

Stay away from the chili!
i did see the chili pot, frickin nasty.

Wait until you find out what goes in the chili! :Q

burned up patties?

You'll find out soon enough. 😀 Good luck!
 
Originally posted by: ThinkTankDesign
From my senior year in HS, and by god i still live by this:

The Stoner Special

-2 Jr Bacon Cheeseburgers
-5 Piece Nugget
-Medium Frostie

ALL UNDER 5$!!!!!!!!

Eat one burger, then eat nuggets, with leftover bbq sauce, dip second burger in while eating. delicious.

That is me exactly... except for the bbq sauce. I use honey on the nuggets.
 
OMG!!!

1 JR. Bacon Cheese Burger
1 Qtr. Pound Double Stack
1 Sour Cream & Chives Baked Potatoe
1 Water

= Best MEAL EVAR FOR $3.29!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You can substitute a cheeseburger delux if your wendys has no double stacks.
 
Originally posted by: CTrain
Seriously man, you really need to do some more research.

The profit margin for fast food is typically 5%-7.5% of sales.
Your figure of 35% profit is laughable.
Nobody in fast food makes 35% profit.

In fast food, we usually measure ourself by PAC(Profit after Controllable) which can usually hover around 35%.
After that then you have to subtract things you can't control like RENT, DEPRECIATION, TAXES, etc....
Which is how you to get to the 5%-7.5% profit margin.

And don't tell me about the quality between Wendy's and McDonalds.
I'm not going to debate with you who uses better quality.
Even you stated that a piece of BACON cost .11 cents. Thats .22 cents so you're telling me 1 small piece of meat, a slice of cheese and buns cost .80 cents ??? Don't be absurd !!
If it cost McDonalds around ~ .45 cents to make a Bacon Cheeseburger......its not going to cost Wendy's $1.02.......Get real here.

BTW, I'm a store manager at one of the McDonalds.



I'm not being abusrb at all. I don't care if you are a store manager at McD's, because McD's isn't Wendy's. You need to get real. It is completely true that the single costs less to make than the junior bacon, but sells for more. The junior bacon used to cost about 85 cents to make, but some prices went up here and there, and now they cost more. I would love to see what would happen if we took the junior bacon off the menu just because it's costing us 3 cents, which we make back the second someone pays for fries or a drink with it. From the sound of it, the people in this thread alone would be horridly dissapointed.


Nobody in fast food makes 35% profit.
In fast food, we usually measure ourself by PAC(Profit after Controllable) which can usually hover around 35%.

That's what I meant. I do believe that when you have a franchise that owns multiple stores, the bills go to the overall owner, not the store. So the number that I know leaves our store is the 35%.


 
I'm not going to spend all day argueing with you.
My point is that Wendys is not going to sell something for .99 if it cost $1.02 to make.

Your arguement is so flawed.
Let me point this out 1 last time:
Even you stated that a piece of BACON cost .11 cents. Thats .22 cents so you're telling me 1 small piece of meat, a slice of cheese and buns cost .80 cents ??? makes no sense whatsoever
 
Damn you all for making me hungry. Now I have to go find some Jr cheeseburgers...

Oh, it may not be on thier 99 cent menu, but I absolutely love their Spicy Chicken sandwhich.

Dave
 
Originally posted by: CTrain
I'm not going to spend all day argueing with you.
My point is that Wendys is not going to sell something for .99 if it cost $1.02 to make.

Your arguement is so flawed.
Let me point this out 1 last time:
Even you stated that a piece of BACON cost .11 cents. Thats .22 cents so you're telling me 1 small piece of meat, a slice of cheese and buns cost .80 cents ??? makes no sense whatsoever


It makes perfect sense. So much that you just described it exactly. I've already told you that the junior cheese deluxes cost about 77 cents to make, and there isn't much more on them than is on the junior bacon.
 
Originally posted by: Metalloid
Originally posted by: ThinkTankDesign
From my senior year in HS, and by god i still live by this:

The Stoner Special

-2 Jr Bacon Cheeseburgers
-5 Piece Nugget
-Medium Frostie

ALL UNDER 5$!!!!!!!!

Eat one burger, then eat nuggets, with leftover bbq sauce, dip second burger in while eating. delicious.

That is me exactly... except for the bbq sauce. I use honey on the nuggets.

you can get better tasting kfc for under 5 dollars😉
 
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
Originally posted by: Metalloid
Originally posted by: ThinkTankDesign
From my senior year in HS, and by god i still live by this:

The Stoner Special

-2 Jr Bacon Cheeseburgers
-5 Piece Nugget
-Medium Frostie

ALL UNDER 5$!!!!!!!!

Eat one burger, then eat nuggets, with leftover bbq sauce, dip second burger in while eating. delicious.

That is me exactly... except for the bbq sauce. I use honey on the nuggets.

you can get better tasting kfc for under 5 dollars😉



Mix the honey and the barbeque and it doesn't taste so cheap 🙂

 
Originally posted by: CTrain
I'm not going to spend all day argueing with you.
My point is that Wendys is not going to sell something for .99 if it cost $1.02 to make.

Your arguement is so flawed.
Let me point this out 1 last time:
Even you stated that a piece of BACON cost .11 cents. Thats .22 cents so you're telling me 1 small piece of meat, a slice of cheese and buns cost .80 cents ??? makes no sense whatsoever

you're not factoring everything into the "cost" of the burger. Do you think rent is free, and people don't work for free.
The burger itself might only cost 50 cents (or whatever) to make, but that would be the low end of Wendy's costs. Now, I don't believe they loose money on each Jr. Bacon Cheese Burger sold. But I bet they make very little. They gotta go for quanity 🙂

I've always wondered how these places can sell a dollar burger with 1/4 of meat, cheese and all that. And still be able to afford to pay 10+ workers and stuff *shrug*

I'm glad they do it tho, Wendy's is delicious

 
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