Wells Fargo mistakenly forecloses on the wrong house - owners lose all possessions

Hoober

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Wonder how it would've turned out if they tried that in a castle state and the repo men were shot and killed when they entered the home.
 

Phokus

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http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story?section=news/local/inland_empire&id=8799822

Ignored by WF for 3 months, then media attention suddenly motivates WF to call and apologize. Owners brought lawyer to the meeting and the offer by WF was $260,000. Owners didn't decide yet.

Somewhere in the reddit comments someone mentioned that courts would aware punitive damages on top of what they lost so i hope they go to court. I doubt WF would EVER win considering everyone hates banks these days.
 

xanis

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darkxshade

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I usually don't advocate high numbers for lawsuits, but in this case I would do my best to make sure WF lost its ass. A couple million in emotional and punitive damages should do it.


I'm sure this being a bank, they'll find a way to stick it to you unsuspecting taxpayers.
 

rh71

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nobody at the bank thought to double check before issuing the order? Like when someone is supposed to have their right leg amputated, they kinda make doubly sure it's the right leg and not the left before putting the saw in. You can't "blame the bank". This is all on one or two employees who suck at their job. But you can blame WF for showing no care afterward... till now.
 
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sunzt

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I usually don't advocate high numbers for lawsuits, but in this case I would do my best to make sure WF lost its ass. A couple million on top of the $260K should do it.

Even those millions can't replace some of the items such as a dad's WWI uniform. Needs to add a few more zeros to that number, but at their age it may not be as meaningful.
 

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State Legislation Playing a Huge Role (Las Vegas)


State legislation has played a huge role in the quick recovery. AB284, which was passed by the Nevada State Legislature in October 2011, requires that a lender provide proof through a notarized affidavit that it actually owns the loan before it can foreclose. Failure to comply with AB 284 brings with it the potential risk of felony charges! How can a bank ask an employee to take that risk, especially since the mortgage industry has become so complex? As one of our clients told us:

AB284 has virtually stopped the NOD to foreclosure market. The buying public is now feeling it. The news has started to catch on. We are building new product as quickly as we can to accommodate and capture sales.

According to RealtyTrac, foreclosure activity in Las Vegas dropped 26% between the fourth quarter 2011 and the first quarter 2012. The number of foreclosure filings fell 61% compared to last year.



The Future

The bears believe that Las Vegas home prices will crash again because of the overwhelming number of underwater homeowners, many of whom have not made a mortgage payment in a long time. They claim that AB284 will simply delay another downturn in Las Vegas. However, we don't believe this will occur because:

Foreclosure Process Will Take Years: As lenders figure out how to complete their paperwork and reinitiate the REO process, it will take years to process them all.

Investor Interest Puts a Floor on Home Prices: We identified 16 investor groups that have purchased more than 30 distressed homes in Las Vegas in the last 18 months, and the dollars devoted to this industry have increased substantially in the last few months.

Tremendous Affordability: We do not believe that mortgage payments will permanently stay below rental rates. As long as rates remain this low, prices should rise.

http://www.realestateconsulting.com/content/LBMI-201208
 
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xanis

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Even those millions can't replace some of the items such as a dad's WWI uniform. Needs to add a few more zeros to that number, but at their age it may not be as meaningful.

Agreed. IMO it's not about the money though, it's about making a point.
 

waggy

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http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story?section=news/local/inland_empire&id=8799822

Ignored by WF for 3 months, then media attention suddenly motivates WF to call and apologize. Owners brought lawyer to the meeting and the offer by WF was $260,000. Owners didn't decide yet.

oh my.

FUCK WF $260? pfft. good starting point try double or triple that.

it's amazing that something like this can happen. I remember the story where a bank tried to foreclose on a couple and eventually the bank lost. then the couple foreclosed on the bank and WON.
 

Phokus

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Wonder how it would've turned out if they tried that in a castle state and the repo men were shot and killed when they entered the home.

I can't really blame the repo men though, this is all on WF.
 

xanis

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FUCK WF $260? pfft. good starting point try double or triple that.

$260,000? If I had my house (one I built with my bare hands no less) and all of my possessions taken, I would need at least two more zeroes tacked on to that number. For what happened here, $260K is fucking insulting.
 

BUTCH1

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The saddest part was the fact that WF just ignored them for months until the local news got involved. I wonder if they could have called the cops and pursue criminal charges against these assholes. any way they deserve treble damages IMO, 3X what the home was worth..
 

sunzt

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nobody at the bank thought to double check before issuing the order? Like when someone is supposed to have their right leg amputated, they kinda make doubly sure it's the right leg and not the left before putting the saw in. You can't "blame the bank". This is all on one or two employees who suck at their job. But you can blame WF for showing no care afterward... till now.

You can sure as hell blame the bank. When employees are on the clock for their company and doing the company's work they represent the company no matter how bad they suck at their job. No ifs or butts. It was the company's decision to hire them in the first place.
 

Phokus

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You can sure as hell blame the bank. When employees are on the clock for their company and doing the company's work they represent the company no matter how bad they suck at their job. No ifs or butts. It was the company's decision to hire them in the first place.

And this goes all the way up to the CEO. There should be very strong internal controls to prevent these things from happening.
 

mmntech

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Whoever ordered this should be fired, and criminal charges of theft and break & enter should be laid. Wells Fargo robbed their house, stole their possessions and sold them for profit. Then their attitude is "oh well, shit happens". Well, I guess the banks literally are thieves now.

Yet it doesn't surprise me. As corporations get bigger they get more bureaucratic and government-like. When something goes wrong it's suddenly nobody's responsibility. Compensation for victims just gets mired in red tape for years. The government doesn't care because A) they operate using the exact same system, which they arguably pioneered, and B) they get paid to turn a blind eye. It's no wonder corruption is so rampant today.
 

sourceninja

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But corporations are people! So why can't the police arrest the whole corporation??
 

OutHouse

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every person involved in this needs to be arrested for flat out theft, burgerly, breaking and entering, vandalism, trespassing.

edit: the carlsjr commercial at the start of the video is frickeng hot!
 
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