Well well well...

[kage69]

Looks like DeLay has abandoned the 'I never did anything wrong' strategy, even though he does try to take credit for this 'discovery.'


I get the feeling others in the GOP ranks had something to do with his admission, but I'm not surprised at all he isn't as clean as he's been professing.


Thoughts?

 

[dahunan]

I haven't even clicked the link.. but would that be tax evasion.. does he have to pay any taxes on donations?

 

[kage69]

Actually, I should have worded it as "Delay admits to not reporting portions of donations..."

Be that as it may, I seriously doubt it was by accident, and his efforts to mitigate this news is pretty damn funny.

 

[Jhhnn]

Meh. I'll give DeLay the benefit of the doubt on this one. I don't see how fudging the numbers could have been to his benefit, unless the funds were used in a method contrary to the law or to house rules. That accusation hasn't been made.

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: kage69
Actually, I should have worded it as "Delay admits to not reporting portions of donations..."

Be that as it may, I seriously doubt it was by accident, and his efforts to mitigate this news is pretty damn funny.

We can not know, in my opinion, whether these are errors or willful omissions.

 

[kage69]

What happened to the 'This is all a politically motivated witch hunt - I'm as clean as the spring rain!' ?

Don't get me wrong, I'm sure this all will get clearer soon, and there is actually a chance he's being honest (!!!), but going on his past I have a hard time believing he's the victim he wants us all to think he is.

 

[Pabster]

Originally posted by: kage69
Don't get me wrong, I'm sure this all will get clearer soon, and there is actually a chance he's being honest (!!!), but going on his past I have a hard time believing he's the victim he wants us all to think he is.

I hope you're being sarcastic on that point. Every politician ever accused of a crime has tried to play the victim one way or another (first-hand, through the press, etc).

DeLay has been indicted. Now let's get the trial going.

 

[kage69]

We can not know, in my opinion, whether these are errors or willful omissions.

Not right now anyway, although I'd like to think he would be smart enough to not make any errors if he was already being investigated for ethics violations at the time.

 

[kage69]

I hope you're being sarcastic on that point. Every politician ever accused of a crime has tried to play the victim one way or another (first-hand, through the press, etc).

I hope you're just over-generalizing on that point. I think DeLay takes 'playing the victim,' (and the accompanying rhetoric) to new heights. Have you heard of any others that have actually requested a different judge in their hearings due to the judge's past? Shoot me a link if so, cuz I haven't. That whole Schaivo distraction sure didn't make him look any better either.

 

[Pabster]

Originally posted by: kage69
I hope you're just over-generalizing on that point. I think DeLay takes 'playing the victim,' (and the accompanying rhetoric) to new heights. Have you heard of any others that have actually requested a different judge in their hearings due to the judge's past? Shoot me a link if so, cuz I haven't. That whole Schaivo distraction sure didn't make him look any better either.

I can't say that I have.

But I assume you agree on the fact that politicians, when accused, always play the old victim card. Joe Wilson is running around claiming to be a "victim" now as well, which is pretty ridiculous.

As for Schiavo -- I agree. But, he was hardly alone on that one.

 

[Strk]

The last quote in my signature works for more than just Senators.

 

[kage69]

But I assume you agree on the fact that politicians, when accused, always play the old victim card. Joe Wilson is running around claiming to be a "victim" now as well, which is pretty ridiculous.

Do politicians play victims? Yes. Do ALL politicians ALWAYS play the victim when under legal scrutiny? No. That's about as far as I will indulge your diversion though, this thread isn't about Joe Wilson, or how he reacts to politicians playing with his wife's life.

 

[Pabster]

Originally posted by: kage69
Do politicians play victims? Yes. Do ALL politicians ALWAYS play the victim when under legal scrutiny? No. That's about as far as I will indulge your diversion though, this thread isn't about Joe Wilson, or how he reacts to politicians playing with his wife's life.

Heh, you've obviously misunderstood. It wasn't a diversion at all.

You'll note I commented on DeLay right away.

 

[Jhhnn]

Joe Wilson isn't a politician, Pabster- he's a semi-retired civil servant and former ambassador, a business consultant. He has also made inquiries on behalf of the govt at the request of the CIA.

If he were a politician, he'd have chosen his words more carefully so as to not become as easy a target as he has been... If he's not a victim, it's not because the admin hasn't attempted to make him into one...

 

[arsbanned]

Joe Wilson IS a victim. Comparing Wilson to Delay is stupid.

 

[Pabster]

Originally posted by: arsbanned
Joe Wilson IS a victim. Comparing Wilson to Delay is stupid.

No, he isn't. But that's for another thread. And no one compared Wilson to DeLay. I simply used him as an example of someone playing the "victim" for dubious purposes.

 

[Red Dawn]

I'll pass judgement on Delay's innocence or guilt right after a jury of his peers do. That said I think he's an 14 carat asshole and have felt that way ever since he used the Elian Gonzales debacle to promote his political agenda.

 

[BBond]

DeLay is required to report donations. He didn't report donations. This, along with all of the other irregularities, constitutes a pattern of illegal activities. DeLay is guilty. Period.

 

[BBond]

Originally posted by: Pabster

Originally posted by: arsbanned
Joe Wilson IS a victim. Comparing Wilson to Delay is stupid.

No, he isn't. But that's for another thread. And no one compared Wilson to DeLay. I simply used him as an example of someone playing the "victim" for dubious purposes.

It's very clear that the White House attacked not only Joe Wilson but his wife as well. Par for the course for these scum. Your spin is ludicrous. Joe Wilson was the focus of a concerted effort from the highest, most powerful political office in the land to destroy him and his wife. How the hell do you equate that with "playing" the victim?

Are your views really this skewed or are you joking?