Well, well, well. Look at what we have here.

[Narmer]

For Shame, for shame

For years the Israelis and their lapdogs across the Earth would accuse terrorists of using civilians as human shields, but it looks like the "righteous" Israelis have no problem doing the same. This just goes to show all these people are raised the same, the only difference being uniform.

The moral lattitude that Israel's lapdogs claim she has over her enemies is all rhetoric and pure lies.

 

[imported_Shivetya]

Originally posted by: Narmer
For Shame, for shame

For years the Israelis and their lapdogs across the Earth would accuse terrorists of using civilians as human shields, but it looks like the "righteous" Israelis have no problem doing the same. This just goes to show all these people are raised the same, the only difference being uniform.

The moral lattitude that Israel's lapdogs claim she has over her enemies is all rhetoric and pure lies.

no, the moral is, when it happens it such a newsworthy even because its rare.

unlinke the butchers in palestine who do this on a daily basis, or the other middle east countries where things like are so common no one remarks or dares remark about it.

 

[Narmer]

Originally posted by: Shivetya

Originally posted by: Narmer
For Shame, for shame

For years the Israelis and their lapdogs across the Earth would accuse terrorists of using civilians as human shields, but it looks like the "righteous" Israelis have no problem doing the same. This just goes to show all these people are raised the same, the only difference being uniform.

The moral lattitude that Israel's lapdogs claim she has over her enemies is all rhetoric and pure lies.

no, the moral is, when it happens it such a newsworthy even because its rare.

unlinke the butchers in palestine who do this on a daily basis, or the other middle east countries where things like are so common no one remarks or dares remark about it.

Let's see, if this was a news article you would deny it outright. But given that it's a video, you claim it's rare, whereas the BBC only says that this is a rare video, in spite of the fact that this happens often, according to the Palestinians.

Should I believe you or the Palestinians? I think I prefer the voices of those with experience rather than one of the lapdogs.

 

[Worlocked]

Originally posted by: Narmer
For Shame, for shame

For years the Israelis and their lapdogs across the Earth would accuse terrorists of using civilians as human shields, but it looks like the "righteous" Israelis have no problem doing the same. This just goes to show all these people are raised the same, the only difference being uniform.

The moral lattitude that Israel's lapdogs claim she has over her enemies is all rhetoric and pure lies.

Are you retarded?

So an Israeli unit uses people as human shields, yeah it's F'd up. But to call out Israel as a whole because of one units actions is like saying columbine is a school full of psychopath gunmen. But you don't even stop there, no, you bring the united states too. By that logic not only is Columbine a place of perpetual death and destruction, the board of education is equally evil.

R-E-T-A-R-D-E-D

One unit of soldiers did something bad, until you see a whole lot more of them doing this or see documents disclosed showing this is what they learn to do in training, shut your damned mouth about israel and the US as a whole. You're as stupid as the people who say Palistinians are evil because of the actions of the few when you post idiotic garbage like this.

 

[Narmer]

Originally posted by: Worlocked

Originally posted by: Narmer
For Shame, for shame

For years the Israelis and their lapdogs across the Earth would accuse terrorists of using civilians as human shields, but it looks like the "righteous" Israelis have no problem doing the same. This just goes to show all these people are raised the same, the only difference being uniform.

The moral lattitude that Israel's lapdogs claim she has over her enemies is all rhetoric and pure lies.

Are you retarded?

So an Israeli unit uses people as human shields, yeah it's F'd up. But to call out Israel as a whole because of one units actions is like saying columbine is a school full of psychopath gunmen. But you don't even stop there, no, you bring the united states too. By that logic not only is Columbine a place of perpetual death and destruction, the board of education is equally evil.

R-E-T-A-R-D-E-D

One unit of soldiers did something bad, until you see a whole lot more of them doing this or see documents disclosed showing this is what they learn to do in training, shut your damned mouth about israel and the US as a whole. You're as stupid as the people who say Palistinians are evil because of the actions of the few when you post idiotic garbage like this.

You must be the idiot that didn't watch the video and listen to the reporter. Listening comprehension must be one of your weaknesses.

 

[Worlocked]

I don't give a crap what some BBC sensationalist reporter has to say, I already read about the incident here:

http://www.ipc.gov.ps/ipc_new/english/details.asp?name=18362

 

[Narmer]

Originally posted by: Worlocked
I don't give a crap what some BBC sensationalist reporter has to say, I already read about the incident here:

http://www.ipc.gov.ps/ipc_new/english/details.asp?name=18362

Well, I can see that you saw that VIDEO with zero distortion. Now, tell me this, do you have secret evidence that this type of action is rare or should I just take your word for it?

BTW, your link doesn't work.

 

[kylebisme]

Originally posted by: Shivetya
unlinke the butchers in palestine who do this on a daily basis, or the other middle east countries where things like are so common no one remarks or dares remark about it.

Un, you just 'dared' to remark about it, and you are fair from the first. But, unlike the charge against those Israelis, you haven't provided any proof to back your claim against Palestinians.

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: Narmer

Originally posted by: Worlocked
I don't give a crap what some BBC sensationalist reporter has to say, I already read about the incident here:

http://www.ipc.gov.ps/ipc_new/english/details.asp?name=18362

Well, I can see that you saw that VIDEO with zero distortion. Now, tell me this, do you have secret evidence that this type of action is rare or should I just take your word for it?

BTW, your link doesn't work.

Works fine here

 

[ayabe]

This is bad.

As much as I'm not a fan of Israel, I don't think this is an indictment of the Israeli military as a whole. In the same way that Abu Ghraib and the Haditha killings aren't an indictment of the US Marines/US Army.

Things happen in war which are unfortunate and atrocities are always committed on both sides, it's the nature of the beast. You can't put human beings into these life and death situations constantly and not expect a certain percentage(small) to participate in terrible things that they wouldn't normally do.

 

[Worlocked]

Originally posted by: Narmer

Originally posted by: Worlocked
I don't give a crap what some BBC sensationalist reporter has to say, I already read about the incident here:

http://www.ipc.gov.ps/ipc_new/english/details.asp?name=18362

Well, I can see that you saw that VIDEO with zero distortion. Now, tell me this, do you have secret evidence that this type of action is rare or should I just take your word for it?

BTW, your link doesn't work.

Works fine for me, and WTF @ your question, that's not how it works. YOU are making an accusation of illegal tactics from israel AND the US as a whole when thus far they have been perpetuated by a slight few israeli units, the burden of proof is on you.

 

[Narmer]

Originally posted by: Worlocked

Originally posted by: Narmer

Originally posted by: Worlocked
I don't give a crap what some BBC sensationalist reporter has to say, I already read about the incident here:

http://www.ipc.gov.ps/ipc_new/english/details.asp?name=18362

Well, I can see that you saw that VIDEO with zero distortion. Now, tell me this, do you have secret evidence that this type of action is rare or should I just take your word for it?

BTW, your link doesn't work.

Works fine for me, and WTF @ your question, that's not how it works. YOU are making an accusation of illegal tactics from israel AND the US as a whole when thus far they have been perpetuated by a slight few israeli units, the burden of proof is on you.

You must be a F*****G moron if you read any indictment of the United States in the OP. And yes, this tactic is illegal according to the reporter, who says that the Israeli Military, international law, and the Israeli Supreme Court, considering it illegal.

EDIT: Where did I ever mention America in the OP, unless you're saying that by me calling out the lapdogs, I'm implying the United States? If that's what you think, then it's your assertion, not mine.

 

[Worlocked]

Originally posted by: Narmer

Originally posted by: Worlocked

Originally posted by: Narmer

Originally posted by: Worlocked
I don't give a crap what some BBC sensationalist reporter has to say, I already read about the incident here:

http://www.ipc.gov.ps/ipc_new/english/details.asp?name=18362

Well, I can see that you saw that VIDEO with zero distortion. Now, tell me this, do you have secret evidence that this type of action is rare or should I just take your word for it?

BTW, your link doesn't work.

Works fine for me, and WTF @ your question, that's not how it works. YOU are making an accusation of illegal tactics from israel AND the US as a whole when thus far they have been perpetuated by a slight few israeli units, the burden of proof is on you.

You must be a F*****G moron if you read any indictment of the United States in the OP. And yes, this tactic is illegal according to the reporter, who says that the Israeli Military, international law, and the Israeli Supreme Court, considering it illegal.

EDIT: Where did I ever mention America in the OP?

or years the Israelis and their lapdogs across the Earth would accuse terrorists of using civilians as human shields,

Gee I wonder who you meant by that.

EDIT:

No s*** it's illegal, the problem is you are blaming the many for the actions of the few, retard. Reading comprehension; get some.

 

[Narmer]

Originally posted by: Worlocked

Originally posted by: Narmer

Originally posted by: Worlocked

Originally posted by: Narmer

Originally posted by: Worlocked
I don't give a crap what some BBC sensationalist reporter has to say, I already read about the incident here:

http://www.ipc.gov.ps/ipc_new/english/details.asp?name=18362

Well, I can see that you saw that VIDEO with zero distortion. Now, tell me this, do you have secret evidence that this type of action is rare or should I just take your word for it?

BTW, your link doesn't work.

Works fine for me, and WTF @ your question, that's not how it works. YOU are making an accusation of illegal tactics from israel AND the US as a whole when thus far they have been perpetuated by a slight few israeli units, the burden of proof is on you.

You must be a F*****G moron if you read any indictment of the United States in the OP. And yes, this tactic is illegal according to the reporter, who says that the Israeli Military, international law, and the Israeli Supreme Court, considering it illegal.

EDIT: Where did I ever mention America in the OP?

or years the Israelis and their lapdogs across the Earth would accuse terrorists of using civilians as human shields,

Gee I wonder who you meant by that.

Those are your assertions, not mine. Wait a minute, are you calling Americans lapdogs for Israel?

 

[kylebisme]

Originally posted by: ayabe
This is bad.

As much as I'm not a fan of Israel, I don't think this is an indictment of the Israeli military as a whole. In the same way that Abu Ghraib and the Haditha killings aren't an indictment of the US Marines/US Army.

The way that Abu Ghraib was swept under the table is an indictment of the US Marines/US Army, as how the Israeli military handles this situation could be an indictment on them as well.

 

[Worlocked]

Originally posted by: Narmer

Those are your assertions, not mine. Wait a minute, are you calling Americans lapdogs for Israel?

Lol, okay. Who did you mean? Canada? Mexico? The people abroad(lol?)? And yes Americans are lapdogs for Israel. I think you are mistaking me for some bible thumping neo-con who gives half a rats turd about Israel.

 

[OutHouse]

Originally posted by: Narmer
For Shame, for shame

For years the Israelis and their lapdogs across the Earth would accuse terrorists of using civilians as human shields, but it looks like the "righteous" Israelis have no problem doing the same. This just goes to show all these people are raised the same, the only difference being uniform.

The moral lattitude that Israel's lapdogs claim she has over her enemies is all rhetoric and pure lies.

why do you hate israel? what possible impact does the country of Israel have on your life?

 

[RichardE]

Ah this guy.

Yeah, he goes around looking for stories to claim, he has made some wild claims. Listening to him is like listening to Iran commenting on US atrocities. Notice how at the end he says quickly, very very quickly "it is investigating these claims". He says that on every video, and nothing ever comes of it. I've made this comment in other threads of videos posted by this guy and I will make it here. I've kept watch on his other supposed "atrocities" where nothing ever came of it, and I will do the same here. In 3-5 months I'll bump your thread and call you an idiot when nothing comes of it.

Go read the World Weekly news, its about the same news value as this guy.

 

[Narmer]

Originally posted by: Worlocked

Originally posted by: Narmer

Those are your assertions, not mine. Wait a minute, are you calling Americans lapdogs for Israel?

Lol, okay. Who did you mean? Canada? Mexico? The people abroad(lol?)? And yes Americans are lapdogs for Israel. I think you are mistaking me for some bible thumping neo-con who gives half a rats turd about Israel.

I meant individuals, not necessarily nations because there are varying opinions within nations.

Originally posted by: Citrix

Originally posted by: Narmer
For Shame, for shame

For years the Israelis and their lapdogs across the Earth would accuse terrorists of using civilians as human shields, but it looks like the "righteous" Israelis have no problem doing the same. This just goes to show all these people are raised the same, the only difference being uniform.

The moral lattitude that Israel's lapdogs claim she has over her enemies is all rhetoric and pure lies.

why do you hate israel? what possible impact does the country of Israel have on your life?

lol, is this a sarcastic remark?

 

[ayabe]

Originally posted by: TheSnowman

Originally posted by: ayabe
This is bad.

As much as I'm not a fan of Israel, I don't think this is an indictment of the Israeli military as a whole. In the same way that Abu Ghraib and the Haditha killings aren't an indictment of the US Marines/US Army.

The way that Abu Ghraib was swept under the table is an indictment of the US Marines/US Army, as how the Israeli military handles this situation could be an indictment on them as well.

Indictment in the sense that this behavior is widespread and condoned. In the case of the US and Israel this is not the case.

 

[imported_Shivetya]

Originally posted by: TheSnowman

Originally posted by: Shivetya
unlinke the butchers in palestine who do this on a daily basis, or the other middle east countries where things like are so common no one remarks or dares remark about it.

Un, you just 'dared' to remark about it, and you are fair from the first. But, unlike the charge against those Israelis, you haven't provided any proof to back your claim against Palestinians.

any simpleton can search history for their behaviour.

if this is beyond you please let me know so I can assist

 

[OutHouse]

Originally posted by: Narmer

Originally posted by: Worlocked

Originally posted by: Narmer

Those are your assertions, not mine. Wait a minute, are you calling Americans lapdogs for Israel?

Lol, okay. Who did you mean? Canada? Mexico? The people abroad(lol?)? And yes Americans are lapdogs for Israel. I think you are mistaking me for some bible thumping neo-con who gives half a rats turd about Israel.

I meant individuals, not necessarily nations because there are varying opinions within nations.

Originally posted by: Citrix

Originally posted by: Narmer
For Shame, for shame

For years the Israelis and their lapdogs across the Earth would accuse terrorists of using civilians as human shields, but it looks like the "righteous" Israelis have no problem doing the same. This just goes to show all these people are raised the same, the only difference being uniform.

The moral lattitude that Israel's lapdogs claim she has over her enemies is all rhetoric and pure lies.

why do you hate israel? what possible impact does the country of Israel have on your life?

lol, is this a sarcastic remark?

not in the least

 

[palehorse]

Originally posted by: ayabe
This is bad.

As much as I'm not a fan of Israel, I don't think this is an indictment of the Israeli military as a whole. In the same way that Abu Ghraib and the Haditha killings aren't an indictment of the US Marines/US Army.

Things happen in war which are unfortunate and atrocities are always committed on both sides, it's the nature of the beast. You can't put human beings into these life and death situations constantly and not expect a certain percentage(small) to participate in terrible things that they wouldn't normally do.

Very well said, and that sums up the entire situation very nicely.

What this unit did is horrible. Shame on them. When incidents such as this are perpetrated by the entire Israeli military, let me know, and I'll be the first in line to condemn them all.

The disgusting thing is that entire militias have done this on a daily basis (Hezbollah, Al Qaeda, etc), and Narmer excuses their actions entirely...

 

[Craig234]

And where's the consideration for the fact that desperate measures are used by desperate people (e.g., the Palastenians, the Iraqi insurgents) against far better equipped, trained, supplied troops? Nowhere to be found.

When US forces have a battle with 250 insurgents killed and 0 US killed, people say 'good', and say the insurgents are immoral if they use the only tactics that have any chance. This comes from not seeing things from the other side's point of view; Americans in their shoes would suddenly see the justification for desperate measures.

This comes from tending not to question the underlying morality of the conflict. It's easy to assume that it's the equivalent of a SWAT team against a criminal; no one's too worried about the lack of 'fairness' of the good guys (police) being overpowered compared to the bad guy, say a hostage taker in a bank robbery. But when the conflict isn't so clear morally, it's about our simply going after power for us for its own sake, about fighting many people who are just defending their home from foreign occupiers, it's another issue.

Another bias that exists for many Americans is the double standard - when the 'other side' has a unit do something, it reflects on that side; when our side has a unit do something, it's 'bad apples'.

Can any right-winger here point me to a single place where they defended an enemy by saying that wrongdoing by a unit was 'bad apples'? I doubt it.

That bias keeps them hating the other side and considering ours justified regardless of the facts. We kill 2 million Vietnamese who want freedom from occupiers? Oops. An 'enemy' does a fraction of that? They're evil!!

 

[Aisengard]

The rule for anything regarding the Middle East is to wait about a week before coming to any conclusions. I remember well the "40 people died and that is a fact." And then the "oh wait, it was really 2 people" a week later and no one covered it. And the hundreds of condemnations of Israel for bombing an ambulance, and later it was proven that it was all staged. Watch Pallywood.

These are claims, and if they're true, yeah it's horrible. But please, please wait until verifiable fact gets reported. All you are doing by saying "Israel is evil" for something that ALLEGEDLY happened is unnecessarily fanning the flames.