Well this should make your head explode if you suffered through the 90's *IRONY ALERT*

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Lifer
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<shrug>

You're even slightly surprised?

The newt doth protest, methinks. ;)
 

d3n

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Its not the crime its the cover up. Clinton lied under oath.

I would say the same for scooter. He should go to jail.
 

leftyman

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I like when people who claim the moral high ground show their gutter mentality.
 

Rob9874

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Originally posted by: d3n
Its not the crime its the cover up. Clinton lied under oath.

I would say the same for scooter. He should go to jail.

Word! Also, having an affair is your own business, I agree. Getting BJ's from a White House Intern in the Oval Office is something completely different. Doing that in any office setting would get you fired for sure. Most companies don't fire employees for having affairs off of work property, and not with fellow employees. This is just something to get Dems excited.
 

sixone

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Originally posted by: pulse8
Originally posted by: sixone
Originally posted by: Phokus
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17527506/

:roll:

And which court of law did Gingrich lie in? Who did he get to make false statements under oath?

Apples and oranges.

Oh please. He lied under oath about something that wasn't anyone's business to begin with.

It was sort of important to the lawsuit he was trying to duck.
 

ggnl

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Originally posted by: d3n
Its not the crime its the cover up. Clinton lied under oath.

I would say the same for scooter. He should go to jail.

You know, I think there's a little difference between lying about what should be an entirely personal matter and lying about state secrets, but maybe it's just me.
 

Chryso

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Originally posted by: pulse8
Originally posted by: sixone
Originally posted by: Phokus
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17527506/

:roll:

And which court of law did Gingrich lie in? Who did he get to make false statements under oath?

Apples and oranges.

Oh please. He lied under oath about something that wasn't anyone's business to begin with.

So it's ok to lie under oath if it isn't other peoples business?
You can't make the law subjective and still expect it to work.
 

Aikouka

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Originally posted by: buck
I'd hate to see the broad that he was shaggin.

From what I assume, it's the woman they talked about him marrying in the article (the one 20 years younger than him).
 

Unheard

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There's already a thread about this in the trashpit (p&n). Why do we need one here?
 

Phokus

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Originally posted by: ggnl
Originally posted by: d3n
Its not the crime its the cover up. Clinton lied under oath.

I would say the same for scooter. He should go to jail.

You know, I think there's a little difference between lying about what should be an entirely personal matter and lying about state secrets, but maybe it's just me.

That's crazy talk, I equate outing under cover CIA agents to having an affair.
 

Linflas

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Originally posted by: sixone
Originally posted by: pulse8
Originally posted by: sixone
Originally posted by: Phokus
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17527506/

:roll:

And which court of law did Gingrich lie in? Who did he get to make false statements under oath?

Apples and oranges.

Oh please. He lied under oath about something that wasn't anyone's business to begin with.

It was sort of important to the lawsuit he was trying to duck.

That point always seems to get ignored.
 

MmmSkyscraper

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Originally posted by: Unheard
There's already a thread about this in the trashpit (p&n). Why do we need one here?

Cos someone left the P&N gate open and it's been spilling out ever since.
 

Phokus

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Originally posted by: Linflas
Originally posted by: sixone
Originally posted by: pulse8
Originally posted by: sixone
Originally posted by: Phokus
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17527506/

:roll:

And which court of law did Gingrich lie in? Who did he get to make false statements under oath?

Apples and oranges.

Oh please. He lied under oath about something that wasn't anyone's business to begin with.

It was sort of important to the lawsuit he was trying to duck.

That point always seems to get ignored.


What also seems to be ignored is the fact that the American people saw how disgusting and politically motivated the prosecution of Clinton's personal life was, which is why he was so wildly popular with the public after he left office. If they knew the GOP leadership was also engaged in extramarital affairs, the proverbial sh*t would have hit the fan.
 

sixone

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Originally posted by: Linflas
Originally posted by: sixone
Originally posted by: pulse8
Originally posted by: sixone
Originally posted by: Phokus
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17527506/

:roll:

And which court of law did Gingrich lie in? Who did he get to make false statements under oath?

Apples and oranges.

Oh please. He lied under oath about something that wasn't anyone's business to begin with.

It was sort of important to the lawsuit he was trying to duck.

That point always seems to get ignored.

So what if some chicklet didn't get her day in court? Some of us are more equal than others. Especially people who agree with us. ;)
 

Unheard

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Originally posted by: MmmSkyscraper
Originally posted by: Unheard
There's already a thread about this in the trashpit (p&n). Why do we need one here?

Cos someone left the P&N gate open and it's been spilling out ever since.

Damnit, someone close that gate.
 

sixone

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Originally posted by: Phokus
What also seems to be ignored is the fact that the American people saw how disgusting and politically motivated the prosecution of Clinton's personal life was, which is why he was so wildly popular with the public after he left office. If they knew the GOP leadership was also engaged in extramarital affairs, the proverbial sh*t would have hit the fan.

That's because so many dishonest people misrepresented (and still do) the valid legal reasons for the prosecution. If you lie in court, while you're the nation's primary law enforcement officer, what do you EXPECT to happen?
 

rivan

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Originally posted by: Unheard
Originally posted by: MmmSkyscraper
Originally posted by: Unheard
There's already a thread about this in the trashpit (p&n). Why do we need one here?

Cos someone left the P&N gate open and it's been spilling out ever since.

Damnit, someone close that gate.

:thumbsup: Though even I find the hypocrisy here amusing.
 

d3n

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Originally posted by: Phokus
Originally posted by: ggnl
Originally posted by: d3n
Its not the crime its the cover up. Clinton lied under oath.

I would say the same for scooter. He should go to jail.

You know, I think there's a little difference between lying about what should be an entirely personal matter and lying about state secrets, but maybe it's just me.

That's crazy talk, I equate outing under cover CIA agents to having an affair.

I agree with the distinction between personal and private life no one can be said to have perfect moral fiber. It becomes more of an issue when it falls into the area of public trust. Don't lie under oath. Its the law. You should also follow the spirit of the law and not skate questions with indirect answers. Politicians with this kind of ethic are how side deals and lobbies screw the people. Its the same as a security clearance investigation. They look for things up front that could be used to influence you. Come clean and move on. Don't lie about it.