Question Well I had this lawyer mail me something about a class action suite against AMD...:O

[funboy6942]

I filled it out, all 3 of them for I had bought a 8320, 8350, and a 8370, and I guess my first check, or for all 3 not sure, but I glad I took the 20 min to fill it out and send it back, for I thought I was going to get 10-15 bucks, but nope

Guess they pay you to buy AMD

 

[DrMrLordX]

It didn't pay out all that well, sadly. At least you got some of your money back.

 

[Thunder 57]

You must have put four, as that what it comes out to (30.42 x 4). I got mine today for $30.42. I also got an email yesterday that my Visio one was on the way but no word on the amount yet. I had completely forgotten about that.

Does seem odd AMD paid out double what the P4 class action lawsuit was. Surely a lot more of those were sold. Maybe they didn't seek as much in damages? Either way, the lawyers always win in these cases.

I think one could claim up to 10 CPU's without proof. I am sure some chumps did that.

 

[funboy6942]

Yeah I had the 3 83xx series ones and the 5ghz one that I dont remember the model of, but was the best one they did at the time.

 

[funboy6942]

And I was broke 2 hours ago so now Im off to go buy some food for the house and fam

 

[Fanatical Meat]

As I have said in two other threads, I am amazed how my crappy FX6300 system I rage quit and threw away two years ago continues to screw me.
Worst machine ever, money savings vs a proper i3 was minimal maybe $50. I’ll never buy a crap chip again.

 

[VirtualLarry]

I had an 8320E and 8350. I had initially thought that they had to have been purchased in Cali., in order to qualify. I got a post-card in the mail, it was a questionaire, but I promptly mis-placed it and forget about it. Oh well.

 

[RetroZombie]

I'm surprise with all this. How is this even possible?

One of the last amd problems was one bug with zen 1 with linux where they would replace the cpu for the people who was affect by it:
AMD Replaces Ryzen CPUs for Users Affected By Rare Linux Bug

Why does nobody asks intel for a replacement part for the huge vulnerabilities they have? (at least the ones that have a recent or still in warranty hardware read:skylake 6th gen cpus)
Or even sue them for the all incorrect cpu misbehaviour?
Or money back? Or some $$$ refund?

Was just watching the hardware unboxed intel 10th gen mobile cpu and another intel vulnerability that i never heard before named PLUNDER VOLT, at least i don't remember any major site reporting it:

With amd all is reported and even the fake (news) ones.
How intel get's a way with all this?

 

[Markfw]

I'm surprise with all this. How is this even possible?

One of the last amd problems was one bug with zen 1 with linux where they would replace the cpu for the people who was affect by it:
AMD Replaces Ryzen CPUs for Users Affected By Rare Linux Bug

Why does nobody asks intel for a replacement part for the huge vulnerabilities they have? (at least the ones that have a recent or still in warranty hardware read:skylake 6th gen cpus)
Or even sue them for the all incorrect cpu misbehaviour?
Or money back? Or some $$$ refund?

Was just watching the hardware unboxed intel 10th gen mobile cpu and another intel vulnerability that i never heard before named PLUNDER VOLT, at least i don't remember any major site reporting it:

With amd all is reported and even the fake (news) ones.
How intel get's a way with all this?

One word.... Advertising. Enough said ?

 

[Captante]

It didn't pay out all that well, sadly. At least you got some of your money back.

You kidding? I saw the envelope and was expecting about tree-fiddy!

I was thrilled to see $61 lol.

 

[bigboxes]

I filled it out, all 3 of them for I had bought a 8320, 8350, and a 8370, and I guess my first check, or for all 3 not sure, but I glad I took the 20 min to fill it out and send it back, for I thought I was going to get 10-15 bucks, but nope

Guess they pay you to buy AMD

You bought THREE of them? Didn't you learn the first time or were you just anticipating your payday in 2020?

 

[funboy6942]

I actually loved those cpu's, I had some intel's and yeah they was fast in games, but I do more then gaming on my stuff, so what it did faster then Intel, made up for some lack of fps in my games, but hell, to me, anything over 60fps, is good enough for me for Im no nut that has to have 200fps when gaming, my eyes cant tell the diff, nore do I have a monitor that does it anyway, so anything over 60 is a waste, IMO,

 

[DrMrLordX]

@RetroZombie

PlunderVolt was reported on these forums. Probably in the Xeon sticky.

 

[BigDaveX]

I'm surprise with all this. How is this even possible?

One of the last amd problems was one bug with zen 1 with linux where they would replace the cpu for the people who was affect by it:
AMD Replaces Ryzen CPUs for Users Affected By Rare Linux Bug

Why does nobody asks intel for a replacement part for the huge vulnerabilities they have? (at least the ones that have a recent or still in warranty hardware read:skylake 6th gen cpus)
Or even sue them for the all incorrect cpu misbehaviour?
Or money back? Or some $$$ refund?

Was just watching the hardware unboxed intel 10th gen mobile cpu and another intel vulnerability that i never heard before named PLUNDER VOLT, at least i don't remember any major site reporting it:

With amd all is reported and even the fake (news) ones.
How intel get's a way with all this?

I presume because in order for a class action lawsuit against Intel to have any chance of succeeding, you'd have to prove that they knowingly sold defective products. Which they might well have done, but actually proving it could be tricky.

For the record, I think AMD had nothing to answer for in this particular lawsuit. They probably just worked out the costs of settling up early versus the cost of what might happen if they ended up going to court and lost, and figured that the former was cheaper. And hey, by the time they settled up they probably worked out that Intel were going to be completely irrelevant to the enthusiast market until 2022 at the earliest, meaning that there's a very good chance that they'll get most of their settlement money back in the longer run.

 

[TheELF]

Why does nobody asks intel for a replacement part for the huge vulnerabilities they have? (at least the ones that have a recent or still in warranty hardware read:skylake 6th gen cpus)

Intel doesn't claim that their CPUs are invulnerable that's why nobody can charge them for their CPUs not being invulnerable.
AMD claimed that that their CPUs had 6 or 8 cores and judges agreed that this was false.

 

[DrMrLordX]

Intel doesn't claim that their CPUs are invulnerable

Nobody wants their CPUs to be "invulnerable". They just want them to be secure.

Are you saying that Intel never claimed their CPUs to be secure?

 

[TheELF]

Nobody wants their CPUs to be "invulnerable". They just want them to be secure.

Are you saying that Intel never claimed their CPUs to be secure?

Sure why don't you start a class action suit to make the law decide what secure means because intel's CPUs are secure they are just not 100% secure.

 

[DrMrLordX]

Sure why don't you start a class action suit

Why would you even suggest that? All I did was ask you a question. Tell me whether or not Intel claims their CPUs to be secure. Do some Google searches! Inform yourself.

to make the law decide what secure means

Unless someone actually does sue them, what "the law" decides is of no relevance to this discussion, or anything having to do with Intel's CPUs.

because intel's CPUs are secure they are just not 100% secure.

Cmon man, you can do better than that.

 

[TheELF]

Cmon man, you can do better than that.

What, that's the same thing you said...Nobody wants their CPUs to be "invulnerable" They just want them to be secure.

 

[BigDaveX]

Nobody wants their CPUs to be "invulnerable". They just want them to be secure.

Are you saying that Intel never claimed their CPUs to be secure?

Are you saying that Intel claimed their CPUs were secure, while knowing perfectly well of the specific vulnerabilities that ended up being found? Because that's the standard of proof that would have to be met for a class action suit to have any chance of succeeding.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

I actually loved those cpu's,

That's why I did not participate in the settlement.

 

[DrMrLordX]

What, that's the same thing you said...Nobody wants their CPUs to be "invulnerable" They just want them to be secure.

Nonsense! You're deflecting.

Did Intel claim their CPUs to be secure? Yes or no? And what's with this "oh they're secure, just not 100% secure" nonsense? You want Intel to run ads like that?

Are you saying that Intel claimed their CPUs were secure, while knowing perfectly well of the specific vulnerabilities that ended up being found?

Do you really want me to go there?

 

[BigDaveX]

Do you really want me to go there?

So, I'll take that as a yes, then?

Not that it really matters to me one way or the other - hell, my main rig uses a Haswell-E, one of the affected CPUs, so if anything I'd actually stand to benefit from a potential class action suit - my main point was just that these scenarios generally only tend to result in payouts when either the defendant decides it's not worth the trouble of contesting the case in court (as AMD probably did), or there's proof of actual wrongdoing that goes beyond just incompetence.

 

[DrMrLordX]

So, I'll take that as a yes, then?

Okay, you asked for it:

NYTimes posted an article about Intel CPU fixes from last May.

*Gasp* Intel caught lying again? Say it aint so! ;) I dont know how much truth there is to this, maybe someone can decipher whats being said here, or call BS On it. https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/12/technology/intel-chip-fix.html @btarunr maybe make a news article out of this?

www.techpowerup.com

We only discussed that on this forum fairly recently. And that's just one glaring example.

I personally don't care if Intel gets a slap-on-the-wrist lawsuit that sees people paid $60/CPU or so. I'm jumping on a poster for flying to the defense of Intel when they (Intel) are clearly in an indefensible position.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Come on guys, when the verdict against AMD came out I remember many on these forums saying it was a BS ruling. Sounds like these payments have a sizable chance of not happening if there was a different judge.