Well, I guess I'm a RACIST now........

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Dragnov

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Sounds to me that he had some bad experiences in the past.

He was irritated but he didn't make a big deal out of it calling you a racist. He said specifically "Yeah, whatever it's all good". Yet here you are claiming that he is the racist one?
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What the heck do you want him to say? "Yeah, no problem, it happens always so I don't mind. I mean I'm only subjected to racism every single day and have experienced it in the past. It's no biggie." ???

I commend you for actually talking to him after and apologizing, but after this thread, yes YOU are the racist one.
 

Brutuskend

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Originally posted by: yowolabi
Mistakenly thinking someone was slighting him doesn't make him a racist either, only over sensitive.

Speaking of overly sensitive, why is it so important to you that a stranger believes in your goodness. Just like it shouldn't matter to him if a stranger believes in his equality. Unless someone is in a position where their beliefs about you can harm you, just let it go. You would have never seen him again, why bother approaching his car, and still worrying about it enough that you have to complain here.

I guess I had hoped that by clearing that up, he may think twice next time about assuming the worst about people. That IMO can go along way to ending the problem in the long run.

I commend you for actually talking to him after and apologizing, but after this thread, yes YOU are the racist one.
And how is that?

I guess maybe it may come off sounding that way to some people, but I have never looked down on people for the color of their skin. My best friend in High School was black and I had many friends in the USMC that were black. My family always had black friends when I was growing up. I judge people by their actions which is how I like to be judged. THATS why it was important to me to clear the missunderstanding up in this case. People should judge other people by deeds. If he understands WHY I did and said what I did, maybe he will judge the next person that comes along differantly. One can hope atleast.......
 

tweakmm

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Originally posted by: brxndxn
Senator Lott.. he may have once been a racist - but, I'm sure he isn't now. Everything he said falls under the first amendment and he should not be removed because of it. He has acknowledged that it was a mistake.
He has every right to say what he wants, but he has to accept the concequences if people don't want a racist Senate Majority Leader
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: Zakath15
Originally posted by: BruinEd03
Originally posted by: Zakath15
Originally posted by: BruinEd03
Originally posted by: Skoorb
People looking for racism where they can and making it up where it doesn't exist are almost as bad as racists themselves.

Only thing is there is racism in the world. Just like the disproportinate amount of blacks who get pulled over by cops for driving benz's...sure the cops can say "he was driving too fast/too slow" all they want but it's still racism. And while Mr. Brutuskend may have good intentions his actions could be construed for ignorance, which frankly does happen a lot in the world. And i'll bet that black dude has faced a million times more racism than Brutuskend has.

-Ed

Has he?

Doesn't give him an excuse to act/react like an ass. Life is sh!tty for most people; I'm not going to cut anyone slack (or treat them differently in any capacity) because of their skin color.

The problem is that while you may not be a racist...a whole lotta society still sure is.

-Ed

That's good. Watched anything in Hollywood lately? Ever notice the "dumpy white guy" stereotype?

Racism exists in many forms, and it's not always white on black.
Unfortunately that's not a Sterotype for the most part.

 

Ketteringo

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Hehe, this reminds me of when I used to work at a certain restaurant. I was cashiering and a black lady came up to pay and I always gave people their change first by kind of dropping it in their hand with my fingers down so I didnt have to touch them and get germs cause I also had to handle food, and as I 'dropped' the change into her hand she said "Dont worry, I wont rub off" and I just kinda looked at her dumbfounded, since I didnt really know what she was talking about at first. Then I just got her food and gave it to her and she left. I think that some people just automatically assume that everyone is racist/sexist or whatever-ist against them so they just treat everyone like they are racist/sexist or whatever-ist. It's really sad that the world is still like that.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: ANY5546
Hehe, this reminds me of when I used to work at a certain restaurant. I was cashiering and a black lady came up to pay and I always gave people their change first by kind of dropping it in their hand with my fingers down so I didnt have to touch them and get germs cause I also had to handle food, and as I 'dropped' the change into her hand she said "Dont worry, I wont rub off" and I just kinda looked at her dumbfounded, since I didnt really know what she was talking about at first. Then I just got her food and gave it to her and she left. I think that some people just automatically assume that everyone is racist/sexist or whatever-ist against them so they just treat everyone like they are racist/sexist or whatever-ist. It's really sad that the world is still like that.
If you are already handling change you are in all the contact with germs needed to give someone Ecoli by handling the food without washing your hands.

 

BruinEd03

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Originally posted by: ANY5546
Hehe, this reminds me of when I used to work at a certain restaurant. I was cashiering and a black lady came up to pay and I always gave people their change first by kind of dropping it in their hand with my fingers down so I didnt have to touch them and get germs cause I also had to handle food, and as I 'dropped' the change into her hand she said "Dont worry, I wont rub off" and I just kinda looked at her dumbfounded, since I didnt really know what she was talking about at first. Then I just got her food and gave it to her and she left. I think that some people just automatically assume that everyone is racist/sexist or whatever-ist against them so they just treat everyone like they are racist/sexist or whatever-ist. It's really sad that the world is still like that.

Well it's sad...but I mean these people face racism everyday. Keep in mind while you may not be racist maybe 5 in 10 still are. It's a misunderstanding, true, but there are people who still feel that they will "rub off".

-Ed
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Well when I heard his voice, it was obvious that he was a black man

What was it about his voice that tipped you off?
Yeah how'd you know it wasn't Eminem or his older brother Vanilla Ice?
 

Dragnov

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Well when I heard his voice, it was obvious that he was a black man

What was it about his voice that tipped you off?
Yeah how'd you know it wasn't Eminem or his older brother Vanilla Ice?

Does Michael Jackson sound black or white? :D;)
 

Brutuskend

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Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Well when I heard his voice, it was obvious that he was a black man

What was it about his voice that tipped you off?


OH COME ON!!

There are some, not all Afro Amercians that DO sound Afro Amercian . It's just a fact of life. Just as some, not all Hispanics sound Hispanic.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: Brutuskend
Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Well when I heard his voice, it was obvious that he was a black man

What was it about his voice that tipped you off?


OH COME ON!!

There are some, not all Afro Amercians that DO sound Afro Amercian . It's just a fact of life. Just as some, not all Hispanics sound Hispanic.
Was he speakiing in Ebonics my Brother?

 

Dragnov

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Brutuskend
Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Well when I heard his voice, it was obvious that he was a black man

What was it about his voice that tipped you off?


OH COME ON!!

There are some, not all Afro Amercians that DO sound Afro Amercian . It's just a fact of life. Just as some, not all Hispanics sound Hispanic.
Was he speakiing in Ebonics my Brother?

I edited your message so another Moderator won't ban you.
 

Brutuskend

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Tone of voice and inflections are to some extent learned while growing up. People brought up in the south sound sothern. People brought up in the north sound northern. Some cultures have one tone and others have differant tones. Some take on inflections by choice.

If you say you can't tell sometimes what ethnic group someone on the phone is, your kidding yourself...........
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: Brutuskend
Tone of voice and inflections are to some extent learned while growing up. People brought up in the south sound sothern. People brought up in the north sound northern. Some cultures have one tone and others have differant tones. Some take on inflections by choice.

If you say you can't tell sometimes what ethnic group someone on the phone is, your kidding yourself...........
Did he sound like Jesse Jackson or Barry Bonds? How about Denzel Washington or Colin Powell?

 

edro

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Why didn't you just say..... "Yeah you looked alike. You all look alike. You want me to get you some fried chicken and watermelon? How about some Jerry Curl? Where's your Caddy parked? "
(go ahead and beat me down for saying that)

That's prolly racist enough for him..... Those type of people are taught from birth that all white people hate them and are all in a secret plot against them. No matter what you say or do, he will always think you are racist, so you might as well play on it and piss him off like he is trying to do to you. :D


Enjoy the next two weeks off edro13
 

tcsenter

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I'm leaving the man that was standing behind the seperator goes up to the register where I had just been served and asks for smokes. I say "I'm sorry, I thought you were with him" meaning the other guy who had been being served when I walked up. To which he replys "Yeah, we all look alike to you people, don't we?"
Ha! I would have said, "You got that right." Screw him.

But don't you see what was really going on? You didn't feel "slighted", you have unconsciously bought into and were manipulated by white guilt, and so you felt compelled to go out of your way to ensure that he KNEW you weren't a racist. You were representing the white apologist mindset.

Why is the burden on you to "prove" you aren't a racist? Of course, its not. You've never owned slaves, he's never been a slave. I doubt he's ever even met anyone who has been a slave.

Here's a tip, let go of this white guilt, stop carrying the burden for acts you never committed, could not prevent, had no power over, weren't even alive when it was happening, because here's another heads-up; he wasn't alive when they were happening, either.
 

Brutuskend

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Originally posted by: tcsenter
I'm leaving the man that was standing behind the seperator goes up to the register where I had just been served and asks for smokes. I say "I'm sorry, I thought you were with him" meaning the other guy who had been being served when I walked up. To which he replys "Yeah, we all look alike to you people, don't we?"
Ha! I would have said, "You got that right." Screw him.

But don't you see what was really going on? You didn't feel "slighted", you have unconsciously bought into and were manipulated by white guilt, and so you felt compelled to go out of your way to ensure that he KNEW you weren't a racist. You were representing the white apologist mindset.

Why is the burden on you to "prove" you aren't a racist? Of course, its not. You've never owned slaves, he's never been a slave. I doubt he's ever even met anyone who has been a slave.

Here's a tip, let go of this white guilt, stop carrying the burden for acts you never committed, could not prevent, had no power over, weren't even alive when it was happening, because here's another heads-up; he wasn't alive when they were happening, either.

There is no doubt a lot of truth there.

Still I'm one of those people brought up to be polite to the extreme. And it bothers me to be thought of as impolite. Which is why I appologized for cutting in front of him in the first palce. Then to have him think I was Racist to boot, well it goes against my upbringing......
 

BruinEd03

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Originally posted by: tcsenter
I'm leaving the man that was standing behind the seperator goes up to the register where I had just been served and asks for smokes. I say "I'm sorry, I thought you were with him" meaning the other guy who had been being served when I walked up. To which he replys "Yeah, we all look alike to you people, don't we?"
Ha! I would have said, "You got that right." Screw him.

But don't you see what was really going on? You didn't feel "slighted", you have unconsciously bought into and were manipulated by white guilt, and so you felt compelled to go out of your way to ensure that he KNEW you weren't a racist. You were representing the white apologist mindset.

Why is the burden on you to "prove" you aren't a racist? Of course, its not. You've never owned slaves, he's never been a slave. I doubt he's ever even met anyone who has been a slave.

Here's a tip, let go of this white guilt, stop carrying the burden for acts you never committed, could not prevent, had no power over, weren't even alive when it was happening, because here's another heads-up; he wasn't alive when they were happening, either.

Your ignorance is simply incredible. America was built on slave labor. They forcibly transplanted thousands of people to a strange land and force them to work. After slavery there was oppression. Jim Crow Laws. They've been oppressed for so long that it has affected them in many ways. Dude you think you're not a part of it but guess who's the benficiery of this systematic racism/oppression of black folks? Yep...the white folks. So kindly take ur head out of ur a$$ it looks ridiculous in that position.

-Ed

 

BruinEd03

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Originally posted by: Brutuskend
Originally posted by: tcsenter
I'm leaving the man that was standing behind the seperator goes up to the register where I had just been served and asks for smokes. I say "I'm sorry, I thought you were with him" meaning the other guy who had been being served when I walked up. To which he replys "Yeah, we all look alike to you people, don't we?"
Ha! I would have said, "You got that right." Screw him.

But don't you see what was really going on? You didn't feel "slighted", you have unconsciously bought into and were manipulated by white guilt, and so you felt compelled to go out of your way to ensure that he KNEW you weren't a racist. You were representing the white apologist mindset.

Why is the burden on you to "prove" you aren't a racist? Of course, its not. You've never owned slaves, he's never been a slave. I doubt he's ever even met anyone who has been a slave.

Here's a tip, let go of this white guilt, stop carrying the burden for acts you never committed, could not prevent, had no power over, weren't even alive when it was happening, because here's another heads-up; he wasn't alive when they were happening, either.

There is no doubt a lot of truth there.

Still I'm one of those people brought up to be polite to the extreme. And it bothers me to be thought of as impolite. Which is why I appologized for cutting in front of him in the first palce. Then to have him think I was Racist to boot, well it goes against my upbringing......


For your sake Brutuskend i hope you don't believe that sack of $hit.

-Ed
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: tcsenter
I'm leaving the man that was standing behind the seperator goes up to the register where I had just been served and asks for smokes. I say "I'm sorry, I thought you were with him" meaning the other guy who had been being served when I walked up. To which he replys "Yeah, we all look alike to you people, don't we?"
Ha! I would have said, "You got that right." Screw him.

But don't you see what was really going on? You didn't feel "slighted", you have unconsciously bought into and were manipulated by white guilt, and so you felt compelled to go out of your way to ensure that he KNEW you weren't a racist. You were representing the white apologist mindset.

Why is the burden on you to "prove" you aren't a racist? Of course, its not. You've never owned slaves, he's never been a slave. I doubt he's ever even met anyone who has been a slave.

Here's a tip, let go of this white guilt, stop carrying the burden for acts you never committed, could not prevent, had no power over, weren't even alive when it was happening, because here's another heads-up; he wasn't alive when they were happening, either.
That's the White Man's Burden my Brother
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Miramonti

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"I guess we all look alike to you people, don't we?"

"nah, I've seen very few blacks as butt ugly as you". :D