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InverseOfNeo

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I overclocked my dual Tualatins (1.26GHz).......I tried upping the FSB to 150 but it blue screened when XP was booting, so I lowered it to 140 and everything is nice and stable at 1.33GHz. But why wouldnt it boob at 150? I dont have anything plugged into my PCI slots......only have my vid card in my AGP slot and two sticks of DDR RAM
 

bozo1

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Something couldn't take the speed - RAM, processors, video card, IDE controller.
 

InverseOfNeo

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I know its not the processors cuz they are known to be overclocked to atleast 1.5GHz........and my RAM is made by crucial. And the review for my motherboard had speeds up to 160 FSB stable.
 

Colt45

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Regarding the tualatins OC'd to 1.5Ghz, were they at default voltage?

If thats not the case, then you might have to jack it a touch. maybe the DDR voltage too...
 

BD231

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Its your ram most likely, if you tell me what your divider settings are I could rule out what the possible part is thats holding you back, but if you dont have PC150 then it's no doubt your ram.
 

InverseOfNeo

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<< what brand ram? crucial? maybe its the boob :p >>



not to be mean but obviously you didnt read hard enough because I did say the ram was made by crucial
 

Migroo

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InverseofNeo,

Regardless of wether the RAM is made by crucial or not, there is no guarantee that it will overclock well.

PC2100 means 266 FSB (DDR, so real FSB being 133). At 140 FSB you are already overclocking the RAM, dont be surprised that it cannot reach 150 FSB.
 

QuestionsandAnsweres

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Not every processor overclocks the same. You can go to newegg.com Order 5 different 1.6GhzA P4s and they might not overclock the same. One you mihgt get toe 2.4Ghz. The other u might only get to 2.1Ghz. ETC. It could be your video card. Cause when overclocking the FSB it does overclock the PCI and AGP ports.

Another things is It could be your memory. YES crucial is good and is known for good ovreclocks. But the same goes for MEMory as for CPUs. Not all of them are going ot be great ovreclockers.

Theres so many factors that can determine a overclock.
 

Garet Jax

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InverseOfNeo,

When you pump the FSB up like that from 133 to 150 you are taking some risks. There is a reason why OCers wanted to have 1 MHz increments in the BIOS.

The best way to get the highest possible overclock with your system is to slowly increment the FSB performing full stability testing after every increment. I have heard people who got corrupted HDs by pushing their FSB too high too quickly.

There are lots of possiblities:

1) If your RAM is rated at PC2100, then this is a likely culprit. PC2100 is only rated at 133MHz. Anything above it means you are running out of spec. PC2700 is rated at 166MHz and PC2400 is rated at 150MHz. Some MBs allow you to run RAM at a different speed than the FSB. This may be a good way to eliminate the RAM as the culprit.
2) Another possibility is the voltage to the chip. As you ask more from the chip, it requires a little more juice to deliver. From my experience though, unless you are really pushing the chip out of spec, the lack of voltage will not cause a hang on boot. It is more likely to cause Prime95 errors and hangs while running.
3) Another possibility is that the ISA, PCI or AGP buses are being pushed too far. This is the beauty and drawback of FSB overclocks. They will affect everything in the computer. You may need to choose different dividers to compensate for the extra FSB speeds. For example, a standard PCI bus runs at 33MHz. This means on a machine with a 133MHz FSB, the PCI is running at one quarter of the FSB speed (this is the divider 1/4). If you push the system to 150MHz, then the PCI bus is now running at 37.5MHz. By choosing a 1/5 divider, you will return the PCI bus to within spec. Not having the 1/5 divider set may or may not cause problems depending on the PCI devices in the machine.

These are the three most likely causes of failure at 150MHz from the top of my head. Anything I missed?
 

MaxFusion16

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I think it could also be your power supply, maybe your power supply is too weak. What power supply are you using? And check the voltages, see if they are still in spec.
 

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So you are whinning because your system's parts are not working out of spec?????
And who gave you any guarantee about it???:disgust: I am leaving can't stand this thread.....

P.S: Love your patience Garet Jax-Congrats by me...:cool:
 

MrSherman

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Hey Inverse, sounds like these people aren't giving you enough credit. Seems you can troubleshoot your system just fine, but are looking for outside ideas on the bluescreen.

You're ram should be more than fine at 150fsb cas2.5. Be sure to set your other timings back to 2T/3T etc. I would drop to one stick just for testing purposes. The fact that you are getting to winXP to begin loading indicates that you are close. Is it registered and single sided ram? Be certain the memory is placed in slot1 for maximum stability.

At 150fsb you'll be running your vid card at 75 and the pci at 42/43 or so. The agp is fine as long as you have a post tnt2 vidcard. What hard drive are you using? Someone made a good point that some drives will stop working properly at 40+ pci.

Other than that I would suggest trying to boot into XP safe mode.

And this thought just occurred to me. You mentioned both processors can do 1.5, but were those figures together or separate? Running a dual system introduces additional overhead and XP may be more prone to instability. Good luck getting that pimpin' system going.

-T
 

InverseOfNeo

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<< Hey Inverse, sounds like these people aren't giving you enough credit. Seems you can troubleshoot your system just fine, but are looking for outside ideas on the bluescreen.

You're ram should be more than fine at 150fsb cas2.5. Be sure to set your other timings back to 2T/3T etc. I would drop to one stick just for testing purposes. The fact that you are getting to winXP to begin loading indicates that you are close. Is it registered and single sided ram? Be certain the memory is placed in slot1 for maximum stability.

At 150fsb you'll be running your vid card at 75 and the pci at 42/43 or so. The agp is fine as long as you have a post tnt2 vidcard. What hard drive are you using? Someone made a good point that some drives will stop working properly at 40+ pci.

Other than that I would suggest trying to boot into XP safe mode.

And this thought just occurred to me. You mentioned both processors can do 1.5, but were those figures together or separate? Running a dual system introduces additional overhead and XP may be more prone to instability. Good luck getting that pimpin' system going.

-T
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I have two sticks of ram, both made by crucial, one with samsung chips and the other with micron chips...I dont think either are registered nor single sided.
I dont have any thing in my PCI slots and I have a GeForce2 GTS in my AGP slot. I have 3 maxtor hard drives (1-40GB, 1-30GB, and 1-80GB).
By the way, I upped the FSB to 145 and it seems to be very stable (1394MHz each cpu). Thank you for all your input.
 

Migroo

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Glad to hear that your PC is stable at an FSB of 145 InverseofNeo.

If you were to increase the FSB more, you might need to increase the voltage to the CPU or even the RAM, although I am not an expert on this.
 

ziggyamd008

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Here is wut i would suggest. First of all only use one ram stick. Second, u have to upp the voltages on everything in your mobo (ram, cpu)
And another thing is get diff OS. Win ME and win 98SE work great with overclocking.
 

oldfart

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My PIII-S 1.26 seemed to like same Vcore as Freq. It could run 1.26 @ 1.25 Vcore. 1.44 Ghz @ 1.45 Vcore. For 1.5 GHz, it needed 1.5 Vcore.