This is pretty sick... and I am almost positive Republicans will pass this.... it is being rushed through Congress before its session is over...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MoRjbIQMXGQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MoRjbIQMXGQ
But the problem is that a lot of Americans simply don't care. On the world scale, GWB and his remaining supporters are off in the weeds...but here in America, we aren't used to dealing with terrorism, and even 5 years after the fact, enough Americans are SO terrified by the prospect of another 9/11 that they will support ANY measure if GWB promises it will keep them safe.Originally posted by: Lemon law
Let him pass what he wants---then ship him off to the Hague for war crimes.---and see how long his ex post facto pardon lasts---or see if anyone is confused on the definition of
torture---which is pretty clear to everyone except GWB.
So true. There are even slime today who support this criminal in what he does after all we have seen as to what a slime ball he is doubtlessly also more than half of congress. We have been infected by a terrible disease and the country is dying.Originally posted by: babylon5
Americans are the one to blame. We allow these politicans to corrupt our country.
I would've thought you, and most politically aware Americans, knew that the U.S doesn't recognize the International Court at The Hague. America totally disregards international law, has done for a long time.Originally posted by: Lemon law
Let him pass what he wants---then ship him off to the Hague for war crimes.---and see how long his ex post facto pardon lasts---or see if anyone is confused on the definition of
torture---which is pretty clear to everyone except GWB.
Incorrect - we recognize the international court at The Hague. For others. We are happy to send people there, to help with trials like Milosevich; we only don't recognize it for our own crimes. Just as we use the UN for things like sanctions on Iraq, but would veto any accountability for our Iraq invasion. It's good to be the king.I would've thought you, and most politically aware Americans, knew that the U.S doesn't recognize the International Court at The Hague. America totally disregards international law, has done for a long time.
It's just too bad 'a lot' is limited to just under half the US population and most of the world.therefore alot see them for what they are......hegemonistic war criminals.
Well put. You do recognize it's right to try others.Originally posted by: Craig234
Incorrect - we recognize the international court at The Hague. For others. We are happy to send people there, to help with trials like Milosevich; we only don't recognize it for our own crimes. Just as we use the UN for things like sanctions on Iraq, but would veto any accountability for our Iraq invasion. It's good to be the king.I would've thought you, and most politically aware Americans, knew that the U.S doesn't recognize the International Court at The Hague. America totally disregards international law, has done for a long time.
It's just too bad 'a lot' is limited to just under half the US population and most of the world.therefore alot see them for what they are......hegemonistic war criminals.
Aussies (not you) confuse me.Speaking as an Aussie, and we are like the Kings favoured Prince at the moment(acting like the 52nd state behind the 51st the U.K) I yearn for the end of Mad King Georges' reign.
Originally posted by: palehorse74
umm, how would any "pardon" issued by one's own congress prevent or have any impact whatsoever on international war crimes charges, if such charges were ever brought against Bush in the UN or in the world court? Anything in the legislation to that effect would be as useless as Saddam giving himself a pardon prior to our invasion, or Milosivic, etc.
I'm willing to bet that the legislation gives soldiers and agents immunity for anything they may have done at the behest of the President, moreso than anyone who actually holds high office. I would really like to see the paortion of the bill that they are referring to in the video.
Two things:
1) The CNN video did not tell us which portion of the bill specifically "retroactively pardons the President." This information would be nice.
2) I personally do not believe that the President has done anything to be pardoned for. I could be wrong...
more specific info would be swell.
Saddam doesn't have veto in the UNSC and the U.S has exempted its citizens/soldiers(I assume that includes the CINC) from prosecution by the court at the Hague.Originally posted by: palehorse74
umm, how would any "pardon" issued by one's own congress prevent or have any impact whatsoever on international war crimes charges, if such charges were ever brought against Bush in the UN or in the world court? Anything in the legislation to that effect would be as useless as Saddam giving himself a pardon prior to our invasion, or Milosivic, etc.