weird text appearing on TV

ttown

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On several occasions over the past few months I've seen random text/symbols appear over the TV picture.

Mostly "@" symbols, with some other random letters and symbols.
They appear in a black "text box"
The letters start on the left and additional letters slowly add, as if they are being typed -- but too slow to actually make me think that someone is typing them.

It's happened on 2 different channels, watching OTA analog tv.

Has anyone else seen that? What is it?

 

Yzzim

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I've had that happen on my Advent 20" CRT over the past couple years. Usually on ESPN and sometimes ABC I think.

edit: no idea what causes it :confused: Did use it as an excuse to buy a 42" Panny plasma though :D
 

Rubycon

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It's ghost programs. Nothing to worry about.

Now go back to sleep. ;)
 

Kirby64

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I agree with Yzzim, I think your TV is going bad ;) ;)

Best to invest in a nice, new, shiny, plasma TV :D
 

Praetor

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Check your close captioning. It's probably set to CC2, if I'm understanding your description correctly.
 

mobobuff

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Yeah, sounds like a closed captioning side-effect, like you have one of the CC settings on and it's trying to decipher bad code that written for that setting.
 

ttown

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It doesn't seem to be the CC setting.
It's on CC4 -- whatever that means.

When the text appears, it isn't like when I have CC turned on.

The text appears in different locations on the screen when it happens.

Sometimes it appears just right of dead-center horizontally and vertically.
Other times, close to the left side -- about 3/4 of the way down the screen.
 

dighn

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I've seen that a lot. It's definitely CC at least in my case. It's the CC picking up bad/incompatible/noise data and displaying it.
 

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Remember the game "duck hunt" (the old nintendos)?? You aimed a "light gun" at your television screen and it registered where you hit? How'd that work?? Well, the gun was sort of like a laser or very focused flashlight. Essentially, when you shined it on the television, the television knew where it was being hit with that beam. Remember, the television had to figure out which light that was hitting it came from the gun, and which light hitting it came from other things in the room. That the light was "invisible" doesn't matter - it's still an electromagnetic wave, just with a slightly different frequency. Now the part that you have to think about: this didn't take a special television. The regular television you had was somehow sending a signal backwards in the line, and the nintendo game system (quite primitive compared to today's game systems) was somehow able to calculate exactly where on your television that it was being hit by light from the gun.

Now, this was early 1970's technology. In the last 30 years, technology has increased at an exponential rate. If the processing power of a cheap game connected by a cable to the back of a television was sufficient to determine where a particular wavelength of light hit the television screen, it's pretty simple to realize that with today's games, it really shouldn't be that difficult to process the signal sent backwards from the television to determine what wavelengths/frequencies of light are hitting the television, and where they're hitting the television. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that with the massively faster computing power, the television can be turned into a rudimentary camera. Then again, who knows what kind of resolution can be digitally calculated using the signal that the television passively sends backwards through the cable connected to it.

In short: 30 years ago, your television sat there. A lightgun was pointed at it, and a device connected via a cable from the back of your television was able to determine where on your television a particular color of light was hitting it. Today, the little box is being bypassed. With more sensitive equipment, "they" can see exactly what's going on in your living room while you're watching tv.

They're watching you! (Oh, and the guy watching you has probably just bumped a key on his keyboard or something; that's why you see the extra characters on your television. This is no different than when the nintendo was painting the entire duck hunt scene on your tv.
 
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Originally posted by: DrPizza
Remember the game "duck hunt" (the old nintendos)?? You aimed a "light gun" at your television screen and it registered where you hit? How'd that work?? Well, the gun was sort of like a laser or very focused flashlight. Essentially, when you shined it on the television, the television knew where it was being hit with that beam. Remember, the television had to figure out which light that was hitting it came from the gun, and which light hitting it came from other things in the room. That the light was "invisible" doesn't matter - it's still an electromagnetic wave, just with a slightly different frequency. Now the part that you have to think about: this didn't take a special television. The regular television you had was somehow sending a signal backwards in the line, and the nintendo game system (quite primitive compared to today's game systems) was somehow able to calculate exactly where on your television that it was being hit by light from the gun.

Now, this was early 1970's technology. In the last 30 years, technology has increased at an exponential rate. If the processing power of a cheap game connected by a cable to the back of a television was sufficient to determine where a particular wavelength of light hit the television screen, it's pretty simple to realize that with today's games, it really shouldn't be that difficult to process the signal sent backwards from the television to determine what wavelengths/frequencies of light are hitting the television, and where they're hitting the television. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that with the massively faster computing power, the television can be turned into a rudimentary camera. Then again, who knows what kind of resolution can be digitally calculated using the signal that the television passively sends backwards through the cable connected to it.

In short: 30 years ago, your television sat there. A lightgun was pointed at it, and a device connected via a cable from the back of your television was able to determine where on your television a particular color of light was hitting it. Today, the little box is being bypassed. With more sensitive equipment, "they" can see exactly what's going on in your living room while you're watching tv.

They're watching you! (Oh, and the guy watching you has probably just bumped a key on his keyboard or something; that's why you see the extra characters on your television. This is no different than when the nintendo was painting the entire duck hunt scene on your tv.
ROFL

10/10

 

mobobuff

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Originally posted by: DrPizza
Remember the game "duck hunt" (the old nintendos)?? You aimed a "light gun" at your television screen and it registered where you hit? How'd that work?? Well, the gun was sort of like a laser or very focused flashlight. Essentially, when you shined it on the television, the television knew where it was being hit with that beam. Remember, the television had to figure out which light that was hitting it came from the gun, and which light hitting it came from other things in the room. That the light was "invisible" doesn't matter - it's still an electromagnetic wave, just with a slightly different frequency. Now the part that you have to think about: this didn't take a special television. The regular television you had was somehow sending a signal backwards in the line, and the nintendo game system (quite primitive compared to today's game systems) was somehow able to calculate exactly where on your television that it was being hit by light from the gun.

Now, this was early 1970's technology. In the last 30 years, technology has increased at an exponential rate. If the processing power of a cheap game connected by a cable to the back of a television was sufficient to determine where a particular wavelength of light hit the television screen, it's pretty simple to realize that with today's games, it really shouldn't be that difficult to process the signal sent backwards from the television to determine what wavelengths/frequencies of light are hitting the television, and where they're hitting the television. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that with the massively faster computing power, the television can be turned into a rudimentary camera. Then again, who knows what kind of resolution can be digitally calculated using the signal that the television passively sends backwards through the cable connected to it.

In short: 30 years ago, your television sat there. A lightgun was pointed at it, and a device connected via a cable from the back of your television was able to determine where on your television a particular color of light was hitting it. Today, the little box is being bypassed. With more sensitive equipment, "they" can see exactly what's going on in your living room while you're watching tv.

They're watching you! (Oh, and the guy watching you has probably just bumped a key on his keyboard or something; that's why you see the extra characters on your television. This is no different than when the nintendo was painting the entire duck hunt scene on your tv.

[Nerd] But they didn't work that way! [/Nerd] ;)
 

mrSHEiK124

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Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats
Originally posted by: DrPizza
Remember the game "duck hunt" (the old nintendos)?? You aimed a "light gun" at your television screen and it registered where you hit? How'd that work?? Well, the gun was sort of like a laser or very focused flashlight. Essentially, when you shined it on the television, the television knew where it was being hit with that beam. Remember, the television had to figure out which light that was hitting it came from the gun, and which light hitting it came from other things in the room. That the light was "invisible" doesn't matter - it's still an electromagnetic wave, just with a slightly different frequency. Now the part that you have to think about: this didn't take a special television. The regular television you had was somehow sending a signal backwards in the line, and the nintendo game system (quite primitive compared to today's game systems) was somehow able to calculate exactly where on your television that it was being hit by light from the gun.

Now, this was early 1970's technology. In the last 30 years, technology has increased at an exponential rate. If the processing power of a cheap game connected by a cable to the back of a television was sufficient to determine where a particular wavelength of light hit the television screen, it's pretty simple to realize that with today's games, it really shouldn't be that difficult to process the signal sent backwards from the television to determine what wavelengths/frequencies of light are hitting the television, and where they're hitting the television. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that with the massively faster computing power, the television can be turned into a rudimentary camera. Then again, who knows what kind of resolution can be digitally calculated using the signal that the television passively sends backwards through the cable connected to it.

In short: 30 years ago, your television sat there. A lightgun was pointed at it, and a device connected via a cable from the back of your television was able to determine where on your television a particular color of light was hitting it. Today, the little box is being bypassed. With more sensitive equipment, "they" can see exactly what's going on in your living room while you're watching tv.

They're watching you! (Oh, and the guy watching you has probably just bumped a key on his keyboard or something; that's why you see the extra characters on your television. This is no different than when the nintendo was painting the entire duck hunt scene on your tv.
ROFL

10/10

I would have given it 11/10 if we'd gotten Bel-Air'd :p
 

DrPizza

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Originally posted by: mobobuff
[Nerd] But they didn't work that way! [/Nerd] ;)
Shhhhhhh. I'm counting on the OP believing me. In fact, I'm hoping that some idiot searching on Google for "television" and "camera" stumbles across that post and believes it, quoting it for his high school research paper. :p
 

ttown

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Originally posted by: DrPizza
Originally posted by: mobobuff
[Nerd] But they didn't work that way! [/Nerd] ;)
Shhhhhhh. I'm counting on the OP believing me. In fact, I'm hoping that some idiot searching on Google for "television" and "camera" stumbles across that post and believes it, quoting it for his high school research paper. :p
Half way through I was thinking: "Ummmm..... No." -- but that was pretty funny.

I remember when I was about 5 yo, I used to think the actors on TV could see me watching them.
 

DrPizza

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Originally posted by: ttown
Originally posted by: DrPizza
Originally posted by: mobobuff
[Nerd] But they didn't work that way! [/Nerd] ;)
Shhhhhhh. I'm counting on the OP believing me. In fact, I'm hoping that some idiot searching on Google for "television" and "camera" stumbles across that post and believes it, quoting it for his high school research paper. :p
Half way through I was thinking: "Ummmm..... No." -- but that was pretty funny.

I remember when I was about 5 yo, I used to think the actors on TV could see me watching them.

It's amazing/weird that a good percentage of the people here understand how the "light gun" works, but if I posted that explanation on a lot of other sites, it'd make it into some newspaper in a couple of days.