weird sleeping problem

Amplicom

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I have this weird sleeping quirk that i wonder if anyone else has. about a week ago i was sleeping and all of a sudden i felt like i was in a rollar coaster, but i could see around my room but couldn't move any parts of my body. I'm thinking my mind is still awake while my body is still asleep? Also once in a while i feel like i'm paralyzed when i'm a sleep. i can look around the room, but cant move my hands and stuff. It doesn't happen often.
 

macka

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no i get those feelings sometimes too... like i'm between dreaming and being awake
 

sohcrates

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sleep paralysis

both my roomates have complained about that on and off

i've never experienced it, but believe me, you're not alone
 

Sluggo

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Happens to a lot of people a lot of the time. Dont worry too much about it, unles you start feeling that way when you are awake.
 

spp

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i think that usually happens when you're really tired ( both physically and mentally)....
somehow, the part of your brain that controls your arms and legs just don't wake
up that fast....

so yeha... i don't think you have anything to worry about
 

tcsenter

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<< I have this weird sleeping quirk that i wonder if anyone else has. about a week ago i was sleeping and all of a sudden i felt like i was in a rollar coaster, but i could see around my room but couldn't move any parts of my body. I'm thinking my mind is still awake while my body is still asleep? >>

You say it happens when you're sleeping, do you mean right in the middle of sleep (a dream), or maybe as you're waking up for some reason (not a dream)?

Sleep paralysis is the inability to move while waking, you are either temporarily paralyzed or you have an overwhelming sensation of heaviness and it feels as if you can barely move. It is normal for people to experience this on rare ocassion, and by that I mean no more than a few times per year.

However, people with certain neurological sleep disorders, typically narcolepsy, can experience sleep paralysis daily or nearly every day. About 40-50% of those with narcolepsy have regular episodes of sleep paralysis. I have narcolepsy, but I have every classic symptom except sleep paralysis.

Have you noticed any other recent or strange symptoms like having sudden bouts of overwhelming fatigue during the day or falling asleep at inappropriate times (behind the wheel or in class)?

<< it's a hypnagogic hallucination. Hypnagogic Hallucination explained >>

Funny you should mention that, because I have both hypnagogic and hypnopompic hallucinations, which essentially means I get them on both ends of the sleep/wake interval.

Hypnagogic hallucinations are closely related to sleep paralysis. Its normal for everyone to experience something like this on rare occasion, but FREQUENT hallucinations are often the sign of a neurological disorder such as narcolepsy. Its not a hallucination without the incredibly vivid sensations, sights or sounds, you're just getting the sleep paralysis aspect.
 

Johnlee

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Geez-sorry about your sleeping problem!

on an aside-Mustangrrl??? Aren't you Phloodpant's gf? Or or with someone here from AT? Sorry, I just had a strange flashback.:eek:
 

Mustangrrl

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tcsenter, I couldn't imagine having that crap going to sleep AND waking up... whenever it happens to me, it's extremely disturbing. My ex's dad has had the hallucinations (a man's torso sticking straight out from a wall right in front of his bed, etc.)--I think I would have a serious breakdown if I hallucinated like that. It's bad enough I had night terrors throughout my entire childhood and adolescence (which, oddly, I never told anyone about).

Johnlee! Dudefish used to be my b!tch, but we just recently broke up... but whatever happened to Phloodpants anyway?
~robyn
 

Johnlee

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Last night I woke up with this weird feeling that the world was ending. It sucked, but luckily I don't have that problem often. GOod luck.

Ahhh, dudefish, I always got those two dudes mixed up. Sorry about the breakup...but they're inevitable. ;)
 

dpk777

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I used to get it on and off.

last week I had it twice...

its some crazy stuff...
 

tcsenter

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<< tcsenter, I couldn't imagine having that crap going to sleep AND waking up... whenever it happens to me, it's extremely disturbing. My ex's dad has had the hallucinations (a man's torso sticking straight out from a wall right in front of his bed, etc.)--I think I would have a serious breakdown if I hallucinated like that. >>

They're a mixed blessing, because the sex can be awesome. :p

When I first started having them, they were more like the description from your link, a range of somatic sensations, including vibrations, heaviness, and paralysis, often what some have described as extremely vivid sensations of separating from your "physical body". Terrifying is not too strong a word here, in fact its an understatement. They began when I was around 25, so I know the difference between vivid and frightening dreams, and these are like your most frightening dream x 10. This went on for at least a year, and yes I was having a terrible time dealing with them.

GAWD I thought I was being visited by ghosts, aliens, you name it, Shirley McClain stuff. In fact, it is now widely believed among sleep researchers that people who report alien abductions, out-of-body experiences, 'seeing' the dead, 'channeling' spirits, etc. are having hypnagogic hallucinations, many of whom may be undiagnosed narcoleptics or suffering from a form of temporal lobe epilepsy but do not know it. Thankfully, I've never believed in any witches, ghosts, or gobblins, so I was very resistent to the suggestion. But, you can imagine that some people become truly convinced they are 'connecting' with the deceased and stuff.

After a year or so, they started to become more lucid, in that most of the time I know that I'm only hallucinating, and it doesn't bother me nearly as much. So, if I see/hear/feel something bizarre like that, I know its not real. And some of them can be pretty cool if you can let go of the fear.
 

kei

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i've had these episodes since 8th grade and still get it once every month or two
every time it happens, i hear a rushing sound in my ears (almost like static)
i'm completely paralyzed except i'm able to open my eyes
there is a heaviness to my body as if something is pushing me down
i snap out of them by forcing myself to breathe

at first i welcomed these sensations (odd but true)
in the beginning they were quite mild....i would hear music from an old phonograph and laughter in the background
i didn't know what to make of this
thought they may be ghosts but then i realized they only happened when i was about to fall asleep or in the midst of sleeping
so i wanted to experience them again.....i would actually put myself into a trance and i made these hallucinations come to me
yes, i was weird child
i enjoyed them until they turned violent

i've only had one visual hallucination (saw three floating lights in the middle of my room and a flood of red light thru my window)
this was accompanied by a great deal of pain
i feels as though something is on top of you....one time i thought it was the devil himself
the pain is like a cramp but a thousand times worse

they've transformed again and aren't painful anymore
i've grown accustomed to them and treat them like gnats by shooing them away (forcing myself to breathe/snapping out of them)
occasionally i hear voices but when it happens it's usually just jibberish

<<They're a mixed blessing, because the sex can be awesome>>
haha, i've experienced this too
thought i lost my virginity to a ghost
:D
 

tcsenter

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<< i've had these episodes since 8th grade and still get it once every month or two every time it happens, i hear a rushing sound in my ears (almost like static) i'm completely paralyzed except i'm able to open my eyes there is a heaviness to my body as if something is pushing me down >>

I've heard people say they must open their eye-lids and shut them tightly several times, or shut them tightly and roll their eyes around for about 10 seconds to 'snap' out of the paralysis. I don't have the paralysis, but it does feel like something is exerting a downward force over every square inch of my body, or as if the force of gravity doubled or tripled over night and I suddenly weigh 500lbs the next morning. When I move around it starts to go away.

<< at first i welcomed these sensations (odd but true) in the beginning they were quite mild....i would hear music from an old phonograph and laughter in the background i didn't know what to make of this thought they may be ghosts >>

lol! I've talked to many people who have these, and its actually quite stunning how many things we share. I hear the freaking radio some times, I mean like a real FM radio broadcast with weather and traffic reports, music, etc. "You're listening to WWCK one oh five point five..." Just like that.

<< but then i realized they only happened when i was about to fall asleep or in the midst of sleeping so i wanted to experience them again.....i would actually put myself into a trance and made these hallucinations come to me yes, i was weird child i enjoyed them until they turned violent >>

That's what helped me keep my sanity until I learned what they were. I recognized it only happened while I was drifting off to sleep, then later it happened both as I was going to sleep and waking up. I KNEW there had to be a connection to the dream stage of sleep, and that I wasn't going crazy or 'channeling' the dead. Some people are very open to that stuff though, poor bastards.

<< i've only had one visual hallucination (saw three floating lights in the middle of my room and a flood of red light thru my window) this was accompanied by a greal of pain i feels as though something is on top of you....one time i thought it was the devil himself the pain is like a cramp but a thousand times worse >>

Ah yes, me and the devil have went around a number of times. I thought he was after my soul, or something, and I'd usually scream something like "you can't have it you muther f-cker!" I usually use foul language when I'm battling the devil. I'm glad I don't actually yell in my sleep, the neighbors would have had me committed by now.

<< they've transformed again and aren't painful anymore i've grown accustomed to them and treat them like gnats by shooing them away (forcing myself to breathe/snapping out of them) occasionally i hear voices when i happens but it's usually just jibberish >>

I can often exert influence over mine. Make them less disturbing or more pleasurable. Not always, some are more influenced than others, but I can make them into something else if they're disturbing.

 

kpxgq

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whoa i read somewhere that that happens when demons are abducting you... like they supposedly come and sit on your stomach.. u wake up... and u know something is in the room with you but u cant se since "it" is just beyond your peripheral vision and u cant move...
 

Nefrodite

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hah, yea i've had paralysis a few times. i ussually freak out and try to open my eyes, but can't. nothing worse then not being able to see, get paranoid about not being able to protect yourself.
 

Looney

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Wow, lotsa memories. I haven't had any of these episodes in years, but i did when i was younger. Similar experiences to most of you, static noises, voices, laughter, hallucinations (often a 'succubus' in the form of an ancient egyptian female, like Cleopatra... how do i know? the eyes), i would 'see' the TV on, i mean with the sounds and programming, as if it really was on... but it wasn't. I would feel my body numbed, as if thousands and thousands of needles were sticking in them, and i would feel like i was flying through a tunnel on a rollercoaster, sometimes with lights flashing right by me.

Initially i was scared... hell, terrified. It almost always occured during a noon nap, almost never at night. As for it being linked with narcolepsy... well, i would say that the sleep paralysis began before the narcolepsy, and from the fear of it, that is how i developed narcolepsy. From the very beginning, i tried to control them... because i knew they were all in my head. Eventually after several months of severe episodes, i just told myself that these things aren't real, that i can't die from them, and whenever i experienced them, i didn't bother fighting or even tried waking up... i just became conscious of the experience, conscious of what exactly my body felt like, the sensations of being on a roller coaster, etc, and eventually i would fall back to sleep... and sometimes i would actually have some really great experiences.

Unfortunately, i do know a girl that has these episodes as well... and has had them for years.
 

aznspeed

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Finally I found some people who share this! =) All the people that I've talked to have never had the pleasure of these experiences.

The first time it ever happened to me I remember falling into a trance while I was lying on the couch just watching tv. All of the sudden it felt like there was all this energy penetrating my mind and lifting me up. My body was asleep but my mind was completely concious. At first I didn't understand why it was like that but when I realized that I was not able to "snap-out" of it I just let my mind wander. I realized that the more I struggled to get out of the trance the more I felt a choking sensation. What suprised me the most was that I did not feel a physical need to grasp for air. I felt calm by this and began to let go of my thoughts.

Eventually I lost conciousness and began to dream. The strange thing is that after that experience a little bit of my life changed.

Have you ever had a dream where you are completely aware? After that experience, I begun to be able to wake up during my dreams. Not physically wake up, but mentally. I've had dreams where my mind is dreaming and then all of the sudden I become consious and start to take control of my dreams. I am still learning to control them completely and it still doesn't work all the time. Recently I noticed that I've been able to control where I go in my dreams and even fly!

I think what you must first overcome is the fear factor in order for this to happen.

I don't know, maybe that is just my experience, but I think that there are people out there who share my experiences. If so, let me know! =D
 

Jeff7

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Geez, that sounds weird; I've never even heard of this problem. I've only gotten that "roller coaster" feeling when just starting to fall asleep.
 

Looney

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Geez, that sounds weird; I've never even heard of this problem. I've only gotten that "roller coaster" feeling when just starting to fall asleep.


No, that's different. That feeling is a spontaneous 'falling' feeling... this is continuously, for what seems like minutes or longer.