Weird Political Experiences

cwjerome

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Back around summer 1991, I went to an alternative concert festival called Lollapalooza. I wasn't keen on politics, but they had some kick ass bands playing. I was only about 18 at the time, and I liked to get wasted and do stupid sh*t as much as the next kid. Being that age, I had it all figured out and knew us young people were cool and had great ideas while older adults were just old fashioned killjoys who were out of touch and too controlling... you know the attitude.

So they had all kinds of booths and displays and it was about 110 degrees and the bands were rockin and people were jammin. I was amongst the mass of tatooed, mohawked, pierced, bodies thrashing and talking about their pet causes and enlightened observations. A major theme running through the conversations was non-conformity. I immediately couldn't help but notice 99% of these people had on the same black Doc Martin style combat boots. I thought it best to move along before I was accused of the grievous sin of patronizing, and left that particular group of postmodern hippies before I got in the way of their trying to forge a superior culture.

I kicked back with my girlfriend for a while and took in all the messaged clothing... slogans and statements were scrawled everywhere imaginable. Most of it was the usual suspects of pro-drug, anti-death penalty, anti-war, anti-censorship, pro-sex type stuff, although there were a few seemingly random and unintelligble pronouncements like the headband that simply said "Reagancide" and a hat saying "Fugazi States of unAmerica". Perhaps the most interesting one was a shirt worn by some anorexic chick that said "Less killing, More fvcking"... now that seemed like a group I could hang with, but that was about the time Nine Inch Nails' equipment started melting and going haywire on stage. Trent Reznor flew into a rage and destroyed a couple keyboards and amps before storming off the platform.

Everyone was pretty bummed about what just happened, but people's attention around me turned to a small blaze to the left- an American flag. One dude couldn't restrain himself any longer and bolted for the smoldering heap, dancing a bonified jig on the ashes. One guy, stoned out of his gourd on a blanket next to me sat droop-faced in a stupor, never taking his eyes off the mad dance. Finally he blinked and said with great unemotion: "That was just wrong." That was about the time I had an out of body experience, like I was up above watching myself and things around me. It was a surreal first step in a political awakening.
 

cwjerome

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Yeah, a couple songs off of 'Pretty Hate Machine' before the sun got to their gear. At least Jane's Addiction tore things up at the end though... great concert. Souxsie and the Banshees were ok (I love "Kiss Them For Me"), as were Body Count, and all the others.

Rest of the story? :confused:
 
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Originally posted by: cwjerome
Yeah, a couple songs off of 'Pretty Hate Machine' before the sun got to their gear. At least Jane's Addiction tore things up at the end though... great concert. Souxsie and the Banshees were ok (I love "Kiss Them For Me"), as were Body Count, and all the others.

Rest of the story? :confused:

n/m that... here's mine:

It was about the summer of 94, I was about 13, playing risk by myself in the un air-conditioned room of my trailer home when I decided to listen to the radio. A Pero supporter in 92 and against NAFTA I was a prime target when a man by the name of rush Limbaugh came on and I chose to listen because I hated everything he stood for.

I?d watched nickelodeon, caption planet, paid attention to what TV told me about the environment, cried during a fund-riser when a Baldwin heeled up a plant and said ?because we are destroying the rainforest, this cure for cancer will never be found?; I hated people who would discriminate against gays and women and people for not being the same race as them. I was poor and thought it a universal un-fairness that the poor would go to jail for doing things like smoking pot, while the rich would simply go into rehab. I didn?t like that people, in the plenty that our nation had, in other nations would die of hunger.

But then I listened, I paid attention to the Rush?s arguments, and I used a 6 sided die to randomly change the government of each collar when they?d suffer a particularly humiliating defeat on the risk board. *turns out it's very important that you protect your boarders*

As I sat there, week after week, I was told ?spotted owls have been found living in the K in k-mart?, ?not cutting down trees causes more rampant wild fires?, ?the poor starving people of south-America have to burn down the forest, just so they can eat!?, ?people shouldn?t be starving all over the world, but war-lords keep taking the food we send?, ?marijuana makes you lazy, you?ll end up set back from achieving the goals you have set in life if you fall to any vice?, ?this is stuff that you won?t hear on the liberally bias media folks? and ?the government shouldn?t be in your business, shouldn?t be in your family affairs, and shouldn?t be making you slave to it?.

These didn?t answer or alleviate all of my concerns, but it did show me that there was another side to these issues that I?d never taken into account because, sense I was little, I?d been brainwashed by my television into thinking that the liberal cause was always the right one.
 

cwjerome

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Anyone else have a weird situation? There's another time I went to a demonstration, but..... anyone?
 

Forsythe

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Originally posted by: cwjerome
Back around summer 1991, I went to an alternative concert festival called Lollapalooza. I wasn't keen on politics, but they had some kick ass bands playing. I was only about 18 at the time, and I liked to get wasted and do stupid sh*t as much as the next kid. Being that age, I had it all figured out and knew us young people were cool and had great ideas while older adults were just old fashioned killjoys who were out of touch and too controlling... you know the attitude.

So they had all kinds of booths and displays and it was about 110 degrees and the bands were rockin and people were jammin. I was amongst the mass of tatooed, mohawked, pierced, bodies thrashing and talking about their pet causes and enlightened observations. A major theme running through the conversations was non-conformity. I immediately couldn't help but notice 99% of these people had on the same black Doc Martin style combat boots. I thought it best to move along before I was accused of the grievous sin of patronizing, and left that particular group of postmodern hippies before I got in the way of their trying to forge a superior culture.

I kicked back with my girlfriend for a while and took in all the messaged clothing... slogans and statements were scrawled everywhere imaginable. Most of it was the usual suspects of pro-drug, anti-death penalty, anti-war, anti-censorship, pro-sex type stuff, although there were a few seemingly random and unintelligble pronouncements like the headband that simply said "Reagancide" and a hat saying "Fugazi States of unAmerica". Perhaps the most interesting one was a shirt worn by some anorexic chick that said "Less killing, More fvcking"... now that seemed like a group I could hang with, but that was about the time Nine Inch Nails' equipment started melting and going haywire on stage. Trent Reznor flew into a rage and destroyed a couple keyboards and amps before storming off the platform.

Everyone was pretty bummed about what just happened, but people's attention around me turned to a small blaze to the left- an American flag. One dude couldn't restrain himself any longer and bolted for the smoldering heap, dancing a bonified jig on the ashes. One guy, stoned out of his gourd on a blanket next to me sat droop-faced in a stupor, never taking his eyes off the mad dance. Finally he blinked and said with great unemotion: "That was just wrong." That was about the time I had an out of body experience, like I was up above watching myself and things around me. It was a surreal first step in a political awakening.

You got a wrong impression. There are buffoons on either side, you just went to a wrong place. Most of us wouldn't dream of doing stuff like that. And i hate people that do that just as much as i hate bush apologists. Yes, i am comparing you with them.
 

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I think it began in 2000... I was sitting there watching re-runs of The Andy Griffith Show and suddenly I got a severe headache. I caught myself wondering why I though Clinton was so good. I felt pain. Pain like no man has felt before. I woke up 5 days later... I hated. I have never hated before in my life but at that point, I hated Clinton more than spiders. I couldn't figure out why though... I was left with this damned whistling tune in my head from The Andy Griffith Show and I couldn't shake it....

I think it was about 2 weeks after that when I was getting over my sudden hatred for Clinton. He was back on my pedestal... He was the greatest man part of the greatest party. I then get an anonymous call from someone who whispered into the phone "There is a marathon of Andy Griffith Shows tonight on channel 23. Watch it." He hung up right after he began to whistle the theme song... and my hatred came back.... I don't know why I was so driven to catch the marathon but I had to watch it. Watch it I did... For 13 hours... My headaches began almost immediately. I couldn't stop watching. I went to sleep after the 13 hours. I must have been sick because I woke 5 days later... I was starting to hate the time I have lost to sleep. Worse is that I was trying to figure out why I was so sick.

That Wednesday, I remember seeing an Ad for Bush. He was so impressive. How could a Republican look so damned impressive to me? I hate those right winged, Neocon, Bible Thumping bastards. But Bush was Different. Whenever I watched him, I was reminded of my childhood watching The Andy Griffith Show. I could almost hear the theme song whistle in my head... or did I?

Let me just flash forward to today... I am now completely free from that damn whistle. I don't know why I thought Bush was so great. I have no idea why I voted for him twice while whistling. WHEN WILL HILLARY AND MY DEMOCRAT PARTY COME BACK?!!!

It has come painfully obvious that I was brainwashed with some sort of undetectable wave from the Television and possibly had my memory cleaned by the Fast Attack Vehicles that circled a building in CA.
 

Forsythe

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Originally posted by: cwjerome
Anyone else have a weird situation? There's another time I went to a demonstration, but..... anyone?

I've had one or two. Especially with my parents.

My mother was basically a left wing nut at some point after my parents divorce. My father was, about your kerry standard, a right wing. But she was tellnig me about this conspiracy theory she and a friend made up, that the US manufactured 9/11 (it was one month after that). And i'm sure you perfectly understand that feeling it gave me. I've had the same experience with my dad several times aswell.

This other time in high school i was sitting with this punker goth hippie. Much like the ones you describe. It was just after a european top meeting in Göteborg, where demonstrators as usual had thrown rocks at the police, and they had responded by faking a charge, what police normally do to spread crowds. They used horses to do so. And after the demonstrationm they had to put down 22 horses, because they were hit by rocks. And this guy, a boyfriend of a friend of mine, said that the police was responsible for the death of the horses. And i simply got pissed of at him, and i totally freaked on him.
On a sidenote, there are allways around 100 demonstrators that are there solely for throwing rocks. They travel to the meetings from all over europe.