Weird Old Asian Computer Shop Owner Dude.

[VIAN]

This is so weird. I walked into the shop and there was Intel everywhere. 2 boxes of AMD chips. 20 boxes of Intel, plus 5 Intel mobo's and only one AMD.

Anyway, I asked the asian dude if he was hiring. Just want to get some kind of computer job. He said no. We don't hire people we don't know. I thought, hmm weird. Well, let me bring my computer to you - you may know me then. He still no and now added that I needed some type of education. It was obvious that he didn't any help at all, from what I could understand from his terrible english.

Another question. Why so much Intel, why not AMD? He said he didn't like AMD because AMD doesn't have built-in heat protection. Then I pointed out that the only AMD motherboard he had, an ASUS A7N8X had built-in heat protection for AMD chips. Then he said he doesn't like ASUS because of high prices and mediocre quality components. Weird. Then I asked which brand he did like. He said MSI. Interesting though, because he had ASUS and not MSI.

Many times throughout the discussion he said that I was too young to know certain things and that Intel was better and that I needed more experience and needed to read news about it. Well, after I shut him about that, he still kept saying that I needed experience. For what?

This guy is a weirdo.

 

[rainypickles]

um, he is a weirdo. but you are too. this should be on offtopic, no?

as far as i know "oriental" is considered rascist by some people.

 

[bluewall21]

Stop complaining, although he seems kind of eccentric.

Also, what the heck were you doing in his shop?

Also, post in Off Topic.

 

[VIAN]

I didn't know if I should post it here or not because of some talk about hardware.

If not oriental then what are they?

Not complaining, just think he's a weirdo.

Just a little annoyed that he was trying to patronize me when he didn't know anything.

 

[manko]

Originally posted by: rainypickles
um, he is a weirdo. but you are too.

Amen.

Originally posted by: rainypickles
as far as i know "oriental" is considered rascist by some people.

Oriental is for rugs. Asian is for people.

...or so I've heard.

Maybe it's the way you're telling the story, but the confrontational attitude is really the wrong way to go about looking for a job. Honestly, if he really was that condescending about your age and as generally clueless as he sounds, you shouldn't want to work there anyway. Arguing with him is kinda pointless. Move on and find a good place to work.

 

[bluewall21]

Originally posted by: manko

Originally posted by: rainypickles
um, he is a weirdo. but you are too.

Amen.

Originally posted by: rainypickles
as far as i know "oriental" is considered rascist by some people.

Oriental is for rugs. Asian is for people.

...or so I've heard.

Maybe it's the way you're telling the story, but the confrontational attitude is really the wrong way to go about looking for a job. Honestly, if he really was that condescending about your age and as generally clueless as he sounds, you shouldn't want to work there anyway. Arguing with him is kinda pointless. Move on and find a good place to work.

Follow manko, for he leads you on the path to Nirvana (not the band).

 

[VIAN]

Follow manko, for he leads you on the path to Nirvana (not the band).

LOL.

 

[InlineFive]

He said he didn't like AMD because AMD doesn't have built-in heat protection.

Makes sense, I think this is part of the reason Dell uses Intel. Because of all the newbie customers.

he said he doesn't like ASUS because of high prices and mediocre quality components. Weird. Then I asked which brand he did like. He said MSI. Interesting though, because he had ASUS and not MSI.

Nothing wrong with that. I personally don't like Asus because of a bad experience with the A7N8X series and I like my MSI and Abit boards much better.

-Por

 

[VIAN]

I still need to try MSI. I heard a nasty story about them with the GF4 that had bad pic quality, that's the only dislike.

AMD mobo's have built-in heat protection for the chip so it's the same thing.

 

[Com807877]

Hi,

How old are you exactly? If you are young enough (depending on your state) it may not have even been legal for him (or anyone) to hire you.

I mean no offense, but the way you handled the situation suggests you are rather young and may not have had a job before?

You've made a common mistake young people generally make. First thing to remember when you are looking for a job - NEVER argue with the prospective employer when you've just walked in asking for a job. If you even do this in the slightest you cut your chances of getting that job royally.

If they tell you they can't hire you (for a reason that is not illegal) then kindly tell them thanks for their time, and be on your way. Never burn bridges. In a year or two you might be old enough to work there, but because of this impression you've made you probably will not be able to do so.

Making negative comments about the managements choice in products or general intelligence is also NOT a good idea.

Also, you need to realize that basically any computer tech related job these days requires some kind of certification or degree. More than likely even if you can do the job you won't be considered with out the proper paper work. You are about 10 years too late... 10 years ago you probably could get several tech jobs with out certification/degree so long as you knew your job and did it well. I agree it is getting ridiculous. I once worked for an employer that mandated we get certified in the proper operation of an overhead projector (yes, an overhead projector). People who did not complete the training in the use of an overhead projector within a certain amount of time actually DID get fired. It's crazy.

Further, tons of tech people are out of work right now, and you are in for a LOT of skilled competition.

Anyway, unfortunately you will probably have to settle for a job in the food industry, retail sales, etc for the time being.

I'm not advising you to stop looking around for a tech job (you may get lucky), but more than likely you are wasting your time.

Good luck with whatever you do.

***BTW: It may be possible for you to get a certification (A+ or something) even if you are a minor. You should look in to that.

 

[jdogg707]

I vote to move this to Off Topic where it can truly be "appreciated." Haha.

 

[VIAN]

I'd like to move it to off topic too, but what can you do.

I asked him about the job first, then he said no. Then I asked him the "why not AMD" questions. Just wanted to know. All I did was prove him wrong. He can do whatever he wants with his knowledge.

BTW, I am 19. I know I need a certificate for more professional jobs, but these kind of stores are a joke. Still, 200 for an A+ Cert may be worth it. Thanx for some heads up. I agree that the overhead projector thing is really screwed up. I think I would rather be fired.

Reason I was looking for a job in these small computer stores, was that besides already having a job as a toll collector NJTP, for those who know, I wanted some experience to brag about to bigger companies. I know I can do the job and have about 4 years experience with computers and hardware and stuff.

 

[Childs]

Out of curiosity, did you present the guy with a resume?

And Com807877 is right. 5-10 years ago you probably could have worked for a real company, but now you need a Phd to pick your butt. Just keep sending out those resumes, perhaps try other mom and pop shops. All you need to do is make a connection with one of them and get hired then you'll have experience. I never bothered with the cert stuff, just answered interview questions like I knew what I was talking about. Not cocky, but certain. When I was looking for work not too long ago I know for a fact that most places tossed my resume as soon as they got it because I left school early. After 7 years as a Senior Unix Sys Admin. They wanted people with certs/degrees and experience that would work for minimum wage. The one place that actually read my resume and gave me an interview hired me on the spot. Anyways, just keep trying. Get something else in the meantime if you need to.

 

[Yossarian]

Originally posted by: VIAN
He still no and now added that I needed some type of education. It was obvious that he didn't any help at all, from what I could understand from his terrible english.

yeah, he's the one with the bad english.

 

[JCE10]

Originally posted by: Yossarian

Originally posted by: VIAN
He still no and now added that I needed some type of education. It was obvious that he didn't any help at all, from what I could understand from his terrible english.

yeah, he's the one with the bad english.

lol

 

[cerebusPu]

he didnt want to hire you. period. you have no right to argue with him. it doesnt matter what his choices in products are...he's the boss.

 

[nageov3t]

sounds like it was a small shop... it's been my experience that most places like that don't hire people right off the street unless they're desperate, and rather, prefer to hire family members or friends of the family (who they can pay less than minimum wage, but under the table).

but most importantly... who shops for computer parts in person? I haven't bought internal PC parts in a retail store since the late 90's (external parts like printers, cables, and hubs not counting, of course).

 

[poopygood]

Originally posted by: bluewall21

Follow manko, for he leads you on the path to Nirvana (not the band).

Anyone who knows at least a little japanese find this sentence funny?

 

[brxndxn]

I worked at a computer store for a year.. You have no idea how many people came in - just like you (young teenage dude) - asking for a job. I had all sorts of people. I had one who 'proved' his computer skills to me by putting a bios password on one of our display computers. (That was a 1-minute fix.) I had another who paid me to install his motherboard because he was scared to break it ask me for a job.

The skills ranged from crap to mediocre. I had one guy who knew a ton about software come in - figured he could be mildly useful - until he mentioned a salary (wtf is a dumb high school douche doing coming into a small mom and pop store and talking about a salary for a part time job)...

I just told them that we did not need another employee and that they should check the help wanted section of the classified ads. Ya, I liked my high school computer store job, but I knew how to fix computers. Building your own computer /= insant computer sk1llZ, yo.

I'm sure a ton of us on Anandtech would make good computer store technicians. However, getting in a computer argument with the owner of a computer store is probably not a good idea. Most AMD heat protection is poorly implemented on the motherboard. Most motherboards that state they support AMD thermal protection will still burn up the cpu when the fan is removed. That doesn't happen with Intel.

BTW, I am an AMD fanboy. But I won't spread lies.

Going from store to store asking for a job is stupid. Incorporate yourself, spend $1000 on a yellow page ad, and advertise on-site computer service for $40/hour. If you are good, you will make 10x what you could make at a computer store as a repair tech.

 

[rpc64]

Originally posted by: poopygood
Originally posted by: bluewall21

Follow manko, for he leads you on the path to Nirvana (not the band).

Anyone who knows at least a little japanese find this sentence funny?

LoL I don't know much japanese but I know that word

 

[yhelothar]

Many times throughout the discussion he said that I was too young to know certain things and that Intel was better and that I needed more experience and needed to read news about it.

Old asians are like that. They believe they are automatically right because they are older. Don't argue, you'll only piss them off, they are too arrogant to change.

Follow manko, for he leads you on the path to Nirvana (not the band).

LOL that's funny if you know what manko means(japanese for girl's ****)..

Then he said he doesn't like ASUS because of high prices and mediocre quality components.

I used to think that, back in the AMD761/VIA AMD chipset days. They're mobos were always plain vanilla and costed a lot more than the competition. Just like intel mobos. Now they're feature rich though.

 

[rh71]

He doesnt' want to hire someone he didn't know because theft can be a problem. A stranger would have access to all those easily accessible parts. I don't blame him. If you kept asking about why, I would've dug for answers like your age and experience also. If he says no and puts you down, why would you still want to work there ?

 

[Red Dawn]

LOL arguing with him over CPU's, that should prove to him that you would be a good empoyee:roll:

At our shop we kept more Intel in stock than AMD because that's what the buying public wanted for the most part. If they wanted AMD we would order it for them no questions asked. If they asked our opinion then we'd give it to them but not before. The last thing a retail shop needs is some Fanboy Evangilising for their favorite product.

 

[bluewall21]

Hey that is his name. (I wonder why he picked it.)

 

[SilverThief]

Go back and punch him in the grill.