Weekly Stats-12MAR2017

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  1. TennesseeTony

    TennesseeTony Elite Member

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    Time must have gotten stuck sometime the last six months, but it did suddenly Spring Forward last night, by an entire hour, in my location. I think my Boss is behind it all...just one more way to cut my weekend short. ;)

    I have decided to discontinue the weekly project highlight....I realized just how little I know. :) In fact, I have a question instead. Anyone know which GPU apps prefer double precision? I know of Milkyway, Einstein, some PrimeGrid (which ones?), and in development, Universe. EDIT: Einstein is now single precision. Sorry.

    Tony.



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    Thanks go, as always, to the folks responsible for Free-DC, who make this possible by keeping score for us.

    In the event we have any non-crunching AnandTech readers who happen to wander into this thread:

    Distributed Computing is where you allow your computing device (smartphones/tablets included) to work on things like medical research, mathematical stuff, sifting through telescope data to further the field of Astronomy, and many other 'citizen science' projects. It allows networked computers to band together to act as a supercomputer.

    And you should join us.

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    Asteroids@Home overall position - 28
    TeAm total for the week - 481,920
    TeAm rank for weekly production - 30

    __Credit/week _ UserName
    1_______180,000______Perry Maskell
    2_______176,160______[TA]Assimilator1
    3_______119,040______Orange Kid
    4_______4,800________geecee
    5_______2,400________10esseeTony


    Citizen Science Grid overall position - 49
    TeAm total for the week - 707,535
    TeAm rank for weekly production - 22

    __Credit/week _ UserName
    1_______688,568______GLeeM
    2_______18,966_______geecee


    Climate Prediction overall position - 42
    TeAm total for the week - 488,265
    TeAm rank for weekly production - 45

    __Credit/week _ UserName
    1_______165,221______evergreencaw
    2_______93,301_______Ingleside
    3_______93,162_______Bremen
    4_______86,421_______James C. Owens
    5_______17,478_______asimperson
    6_______17,421_______Orange Kid
    7_______15,257_______geecee


    Collatz Conjecture overall position - 36
    TeAm total for the week - 65,972,166
    TeAm rank for weekly production - 31

    __Credit/week _ UserName
    1_______29,749,608___Perry Maskell
    2_______19,996,526___Orange Kid
    3_______12,875,843___James C. Owens
    4_______2,755,608____Thehive
    5_______594,579______David


    DENIS@Home overall position - 48
    TeAm total for the week - 95,340
    TeAm rank for weekly production - 12

    __Credit/week _ UserName
    1_______56,173_______petrusbroder
    2_______25,637_______GLeeM
    3_______10,519_______Fardringle
    4_______2,018________10esseeTony
    5_______990__________geecee


    DPAD overall position - 3
    TeAm total for the week - 3,129,728
    TeAm rank for weekly production - 2

    __Credit/week _ UserName
    1_______1,666,104____Silverthorne
    2_______795,185______viztech
    3_______668,437______JonB


    Enigma@Home overall position - 45
    TeAm total for the week - 70,971
    TeAm rank for weekly production - 60

    __Credit/week _ UserName
    1_______29,908_______Bremen
    2_______25,622_______GLeeM
    3_______9,203________jnj
    4_______6,238________geecee


    Einstein@Home overall position - 36
    TeAm total for the week - 26,657,214
    TeAm rank for weekly production - 18

    __Credit/week _ UserName
    1_______7,234,920____10esseeTony
    2_______6,310,444____salvorhardin
    3_______6,007,289____scottLobster
    4_______2,632,300____[TA]Assimilator1
    5_______1,696,917____zzuupp
    6_______1,056,178____Prince Dakkar
    7_______713,790______elawyn
    8_______682,605______Mastergee
    9_______72,765_______Victor
    10______67,422_______Alan J. Simpson
    11______48,510_______GLeeM
    12______35,343_______Bruiser
    13______27,720_______geecee
    14______25,192_______David
    15______24,255_______Nick
    16______20,000_______James C. Owens
    17______11,707_______jnj


    Folding@Home overall position - 21
    TeAm total for the week - 104,773,508
    TeAm rank for weekly production - 20

    __Credit/week _ UserName
    1_______32,052,380___Mark_F_Williams
    2_______18,421,414___xii5ku
    3_______6,062,109____crashtech
    4_______4,869,673____Weiser
    5_______4,384,209____theAnimal
    6_______4,088,811____wingding
    7_______4,014,274____HutchinsonJC
    8_______3,710,949____Feets
    9_______3,065,007____Arlen
    10______2,341,782____FoldingSolutions
    11______2,311,682____Spungo
    12______2,161,009____mike9o
    13______2,073,048____jro99
    14______1,926,173____Cmaxx
    15______1,921,947____vsteel
    16______1,878,492____uallas5
    17______1,580,848____bds71
    18______799,507______Charlie22911
    19______648,234______Zetbo
    20______553,897______Orenj
    21______477,670______Mike_F
    22______414,425______sk560
    23______359,571______MrNorris
    24______330,710______Bri79
    25______327,183______HundredMetal
    26______299,087______JohnnyBT
    27______281,310______Drsignguy
    28______277,451______DainBramaged
    29______262,484______No_aims
    30______255,249______Brazos
    31______243,259______kbaikovs
    32______210,963______deninc66
    33______185,500______Jefferson_Folder
    34______179,562______Psycnosis
    35______172,478______StefanLenz
    36______161,664______Maverick2091
    37______147,945______Greg_Allbee
    38______122,788______ilikepigs
    39______115,717______kuruma
    40______104,989______mondrasek
    41______101,465______rrunswickjr
    42______97,962_______MrCommunistGen
    43______82,231_______ChasR
    44______71,253_______Murphant
    45______68,879_______warevs
    46______57,421_______Athlex
    47______54,987_______TiO2
    48______48,148_______knightspawn
    49______43,442_______appleache
    50______40,518_______ensignlee
    51______37,747_______slowbones
    52______29,022_______underthefloor
    53______23,691_______Greg
    54______21,905_______JohnnyWong1213
    55______19,790_______Sheckmonster
    56______18,100_______AnonPiglet
    57______18,083_______Dean
    58______17,646_______Maximous
    59______16,936_______sduguid
    60______16,450_______Karsten_Silz
    61______16,322_______Desslok
    62______14,099_______Gizmo23
    63______13,525_______jkresh
    64______12,306_______TA_Smoke
    65______9,605________bak688
    66______9,198________Anonymous
    67______6,752________The_Honkey
    68______6,674________fhonyotski
    69______2,264________ghamilton2
    70______1,007________T0Y69
    71______423__________ericlp
    72______207__________Dulanic


    Gerasim@Home overall position - 27
    TeAm total for the week - 45,000
    TeAm rank for weekly production - 14

    __Credit/week _ UserName
    1_______45,000_______Orange Kid


    GPUGrid overall position - 22
    TeAm total for the week - 44,217,000
    TeAm rank for weekly production - 12

    __Credit/week _ UserName
    1_______24,535,050___10esseeTony
    2_______5,943,450____Kaebu
    3_______4,862,750____James C. Owens
    4_______3,911,525____kart17
    5_______2,179,050____Bremen
    6_______2,170,625____CGI
    7_______351,450______David
    8_______263,100______TurbineEngine


    Leiden Classical overall position - 13
    TeAm total for the week - 182,536
    TeAm rank for weekly production - 4

    __Credit/week _ UserName
    1_______176,949______Fardringle
    2_______5,587________geecee


    LHC@Home 1.0 overall position - 37
    TeAm total for the week - 210,181
    TeAm rank for weekly production - 23

    __Credit/week _ UserName
    1_______57,986_______James C. Owens
    2_______43,843_______Sunny129
    3_______41,018_______petrusbroder
    4_______38,611_______[TA]Assimilator1
    5_______14,893_______David
    6_______4,582________Fardringle
    7_______4,180________zzuupp
    8_______3,804________geecee
    9_______1,296________thecaptain07
    10______139__________scottLobster


    Majestic-12 overall position - 21
    TeAm total for the week - 37,941,809
    TeAm rank for weekly production - 16

    __Credit/week _ UserName
    1_______29,903,054___Silverthorne
    2_______10,727,562___Wedge
    3_______9,035,959____StitchExperimen


    MilkyWay@Home overall position - 16
    TeAm total for the week - 12,407,146
    TeAm rank for weekly production - 7

    __Credit/week _ UserName
    1_______6,421,747____crashtech
    2_______4,207,876____iwajabitw
    3_______670,205______Christopher
    4_______440,556______10esseeTony
    5_______438,284______Silverthorne
    6_______101,183______salvorhardin
    7_______50,950_______James C. Owens
    8_______47,851_______geecee
    9_______10,799_______IcefireQuickSilver
    10______10,719_______thecaptain07
    11______4,467________elfenix
    12______4,009________RussianSensation


    Moo! Wrapper overall position - 40
    TeAm total for the week - 3,558,456
    TeAm rank for weekly production - 19

    __Credit/week _ UserName
    1_______3,514,288____GLeeM
    2_______25,016_______Perry Maskell
    3_______19,152_______Slawterr


    NFS@Home overall position - 17
    TeAm total for the week - 8,182
    TeAm rank for weekly production - 61

    __Credit/week _ UserName
    1_______8,226________geecee


    Primegrid overall position - 46
    TeAm total for the week - 4,209,064
    TeAm rank for weekly production - 60

    __Credit/week _ UserName
    1_______1,069,964____SlangNRox
    2_______873,089______Fardringle
    3_______492,166______geecee
    4_______388,673______zzuupp
    5_______356,901______Ken_g6
    6_______354,735______waffleironhead
    7_______328,019______Kiska
    8_______261,421______xii5ku
    9_______50,809_______mike656
    10______19,909_______Chokko
    11______13,484_______10esseeTony


    Rosetta@Home overall position - 17
    TeAm total for the week - 370,253
    TeAm rank for weekly production - 22

    __Credit/week _ UserName
    1_______104,562______BadThad
    2_______56,434_______TA_TheReaper
    3_______53,495_______crashtech
    4_______36,759_______Wiz
    5_______29,261_______uallas5
    6_______22,126_______xii5ku
    7_______15,810_______Victor
    8_______13,830_______TeAm Enterprise
    9_______8,825________Bremen
    10______6,438________FoldingSolutions
    11______6,184________salvorhardin
    12______5,895________kart17
    13______1,914________Bundyman
    14______1,689________cyost91
    15______1,619________geecee
    16______1,001________David
    17______295__________elfenix


    RC5-72 overall position - 11
    TeAm total for the week - 1,014,542
    TeAm rank for weekly production - 2

    __Credit/week _ UserName
    1_______880,590______LANMAN
    2_______130,068______stefanlenz@hotmail.com
    3_______2,425________Mad Pierre
    4_______1,391________f00_devil@yahoo.com
    5_______39___________boehm@nc.rr.com
    6_______29___________iamwiz82@hotmail.com


    SkyNet POGS overall position - 36
    TeAm total for the week - 1,348,460
    TeAm rank for weekly production - 11

    __Credit/week _ UserName
    1_______1,327,092____10esseeTony
    2_______10,089_______Orange Kid
    3_______9,594________geecee


    Seti@Home overall position - 23
    TeAm total for the week - 6,811,153
    TeAm rank for weekly production - 17

    __Credit/week _ UserName
    1_______1,655,973____Pokey
    2_______985,954______Sidewinder
    3_______856,917______baxsie
    4_______597,256______Lane42
    5_______396,877______petrusbroder
    6_______355,452______Astro-AL
    7_______297,354______Smoke
    8_______148,868______Wiz
    9_______119,129______evergreencaw
    10______119,015______Wayne S
    11______110,128______cyost91
    12______97,445_______kwhited
    13______89,297_______UlricT
    14______84,130_______MGallik
    15______75,883_______uallas5
    16______74,811_______Esiuda
    17______68,274_______Dougal
    18______66,836_______QuietDad
    19______63,335_______Sickle 584th
    20______61,077_______James C. Owens
    21______59,647_______Shane
    22______51,921_______kart17
    23______47,166_______catavalon21
    24______39,993_______LANMAN
    25______34,166_______Jack Whitmire
    26______33,512_______Jalapeno
    27______27,015_______geecee
    28______22,667_______VTrider
    29______21,408_______DimensionX
    30______19,609_______Carl A. Dimperio Jr.
    31______13,884_______Alan J. Simpson
    32______12,954_______Steve
    33______11,797_______Zeke
    34______9,873________Indranil Bal
    35______9,496________ElFenix
    36______8,422________David
    37______7,946________hymy
    38______7,780________Dragonslayere
    39______7,427________asimperson
    40______6,889________Perry Maskell
    41______5,389________jnj
    42______4,854________Mortimer
    43______4,796________RedFox1
    44______4,413________Zim Hosein
    45______4,194________thomsbrain
    46______4,125________IcefireQuickSilver
    47______2,733________Nick
    48______2,562________scottLobster
    49______2,515________Bwatson283
    50______2,218________TeAm Tarca - bigwoofer - Douger
    51______651__________Arlen - Team AnandTech
    52______627__________Viperoni
    53______571__________Don
    54______541__________liquidsun
    55______510__________10esseeTony
    56______484__________littletemple
    57______306__________mnelsonx
    58______281__________ericlp
    59______171__________acheron
    60______168__________Nikita


    TN-Grid overall position - 22
    TeAm total for the week - 569
    TeAm rank for weekly production - 12

    __Credit/week _ UserName
    1_______417__________10esseeTony
    2_______76___________petrusbroder
    3_______74___________GLeeM


    Universe@Home overall position - 11
    TeAm total for the week - 62,666
    TeAm rank for weekly production - 44

    __Credit/week _ UserName
    1_______33,666_______Silverthorne
    2_______22,333_______GLeeM
    3_______6,666________geecee


    World Community Grid overall position - 62
    TeAm total for the week - 1,315,184
    TeAm rank for weekly production - 52

    __Credit/week _ UserName
    1_______304,826______markfw900
    2_______184,566______ZipSpeed
    3_______135,324______Neurodog
    4_______105,700______Kaebu
    5_______68,139_______xii5ku
    6_______67,370_______Ingleside
    7_______65,874_______crashtech
    8_______57,530_______wayliff
    9_______51,596_______kelemvor33
    10______34,893_______rainsford
    11______30,818_______Aegeon
    12______27,713_______uallas5
    13______26,870_______sukhoi_584th
    14______20,137_______sangyup81
    15______19,047_______Rebel Alliance
    16______17,030_______catavalon21
    17______16,333_______James C. Owens
    18______16,026_______nelsonlew
    19______13,192_______geecee
    20______12,094_______TheHive
    21______11,840_______Arlen - Team AnandTech
    22______5,802________djshindo
    23______4,559________Elvenstar
    24______3,618________asimperson
    25______3,194________Sheep221
    26______3,058________IcefireQuickSilver
    27______2,722________EagleKeeper
    28______2,102________zzuupp
    29______1,615________thomsbrain
    30______1,580________somethingsketchy


    Yoyo@Home overall position - 31
    TeAm total for the week - 116,219
    TeAm rank for weekly production - 16

    __Credit/week _ UserName
    1_______71,456_______waffleironhead
    2_______40,507_______[TA]OrangeKid
    3_______4,256________geecee



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    Alphabetical List of stat links to some TeAm Projects :

    Asteroids

    Citizen Science Grid

    Climate Prediction

    Collatz Conjecture

    DENIS -Intermittent

    DPAD

    Enigma

    Einstein

    Fight Malaria -Inactive?

    Folding@Home

    Gerasim

    GPU Grid

    Leiden Classical

    LHC

    Majestic12

    Malaria Control Project -Inactive?

    Milkyway

    Moo! Wrapper

    NFS

    Number Fields

    PrimeGrid

    Rosetta

    RC5/72

    POGS

    SETI

    TN-Grid

    Universe

    WCG

    YAFU

    Yoyo
     
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  3. Smoke

    Smoke Distributed Computing Elite Member
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    Let's all celebrate ... we made another SPRING FORWARD DAY (in the USA). :)

    Can you tell I'm an old timer? :p

    Good morning Tony, good morning TeAm. :D


    BOINC Championship 2017 League Standings
    We are in "League 2" - #9

    TeAm AnandTech*
    #17 235,353.92 - Overall
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  4. Orange Kid

    Orange Kid Elite Member

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    Thanks for the stats, Tony. :cool:
     
  5. GLeeM

    GLeeM Elite Member

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    Thanks for the stats, Tony :)

    EDIT: how soon will the Universe GPU app be ready? (here I am moving it to 5M with CPUs, oh well)
     
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  6. StefanR5R

    StefanR5R Senior member

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    DC Vault's WCG slot is showing team "Anandtech" at rank 404, instead of "TeAm AnandTech" at rank 63. :confused2:
     
  7. iwajabitw

    iwajabitw Senior member

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    Morning everyone, thanks for the stats, Tony! :)
     
  8. crashtech

    crashtech Diamond Member

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    Thanks, Tony! I like your question. I've been having good fun looking for older AMD cards to run, even though they are a bit power hungry, they are easy on the wallet, and to me there is something pretty cool and maybe even a bit elegant about cards that do double precision well.
     
  9. Kiska

    Kiska Senior member

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    Thanks for the stats
    PrimeGrid genefer app is heavily Double Precision
    Also the R9 280x seems the best for FP64 since its 1/4 of FP32
     
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  10. Markfw

    Markfw CPU Moderator VC&G Moderator Elite Member
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    Thanks for the stats Tony !
     
  11. petrusbroder

    petrusbroder Elite Member

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    TeAm AnandTech is the real team. Anandtech is a very old remnant of a time when we had two team captains ... We tried to contact the other, but he was not available and not possible to reach ... so that team remains.
     
  12. LANMAN

    LANMAN Platinum Member

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    :cool: Thanks for the stats Tony!
     
  13. TennesseeTony

    TennesseeTony Elite Member

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    I've learned (and tested) that Einstein now (or always?) is (was?) single precision.

    I guess my daily output will climb substantially. :)
     
  14. iwajabitw

    iwajabitw Senior member

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    Always thought Einstein was a DP project too. Soon as I hit 100m in MW I'll hop back over to this project.
     
  15. crashtech

    crashtech Diamond Member

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    Is the requirement for DP or SP a consequence of the calculations themselves, or the way the software is written to perform them?
     
  16. iwajabitw

    iwajabitw Senior member

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    I believe I understand it to be how the the software calculations are written. But the correct hardware has to be used to process it efficiently, or it takes longer to do the do calculations. In a nut shell.
     
  17. TennesseeTony

    TennesseeTony Elite Member

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    The choice to use single precision or double precision lies in the hands of the author of the software, and which they choose to use is dependent on how precise they want their results to be. Milkyway is double precision out of necessity, because the slightest of errors will be magnified thousands and thousands of times when they extend that vector from one star to another one 100 light years away and try to calculate it's trajectory 1000 years into the past.

    Other projects such as Folding, say they can predict the margin of error and compensate somehow, for single precision errors. I guess such projects only need to get a rough idea of what they are looking for, then they can refine that result with further calculations.

    On the hardware side, I have no idea how it works, but a sold-out-everywhere GTX 1080Ti has SP/DP ratings of 10608/332 GFLOPS. Whereas the ancient Radeon 7970/280X gets trampled with a SP of only 4096 GFLOPS, it's DP is 1024 GFLOPS. More than triple Nvidia's latest and greatest. :D The last of the great DP cards, that series is.

    But if you're willing to spend the money, the Pro cards have much better DP then their consumer counterparts. Nvidia rules there with the $10,000 P100 GPU Accelerator, having an insane SP/DP output of 10609\5304 GFLOPS. The best value, if it works for BOINC though that I've found, are used FirePro cards, the S9150 (Hawaii based chip) can be found for about $600 and has a DP of 2530 GFLOPS. I have one on the way. :D I'll keep you updated on if it works with DC or not, but it should. Drawback there is that it is made for servers, and is passively cooled, I'm going to have to use cardboard and Duct tape to attach a funnel and a 120mm fan to it somehow, lol.
     
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  18. iwajabitw

    iwajabitw Senior member

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    I thought Tahiti was higher DP than Hawaii, or is it really suped up for the server?
     
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    DP:SP on consumer Hawaii is limited to 1:8. On server and workstation Hawaii it is 1:2.

    (Edit: whereas Tahiti is enabled to 1:4 on consumer, server and workstation.)
     
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    Thanks, I did not know that.
     
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    @TennesseeTony If DP is not the factor in Einstein work units, do you know why or have a guess why your 280x rig is out performing the 1070 rig, both with dual cards. Is there any rhyme or reason?
     
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    I only switched the 1070's (Mjolnir) to Einstein yesterday, but I'll keep an eye on it. The twin 280X rig (Skeletor) has many hundreds of pending validation tasks to help boost it's score as well, while Mjolnir is still building up steam.

    Looking at my account page, I did notice some very interesting things though:
    1. WUSS (single 280X) had about a 50% invalid task rate. :( I put it back on Milkyway to see if it's still of some use there.
    2. The Nvidia cards use the CPU 1000 to 1200 seconds per task (running 3 concurrent tasks on all machines), whereas the 280X cards only need help from the CPU 300 to 400 seconds. That is 3 to 4 times more CPU usage for CUDA. :mad: Looks like Nvidia card performance may be directly related to CPU performance.
    3. Last, I noticed that I have at least 1,500,000 points pending, and I only checked half of the machines. :D
    EDIT: What!? I think I see why you asked now, the 1070's seem to take about 1850 seconds on average (for the first page of results), whereas the 280X's only take about 1650. Well, that doesn't make sense.

    OH! ...I spend an hour or two gaming on Mjolnir per day on weekends. :D

    Edit #2: I think I found the root cause...I forgot to allocate more CPU when I started on Einstein. I remembered to save some threads on the server chips, but forgot to do that to Mjolnir. No wonder my game would freeze up for a few seconds at a time, 100% CPU load. :oops:
     
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    I've been reading the Einstein forums about this. Granted it is mostly a SP project, but some calc are DP. And if I understand it correctly if the gpu isn't proficient at with DP it has to reference back to the CPU. I didn't have the 280's last time i was crunching Einstein, so I looked at you guys that are. You have monster setup that's is a great reference!
     
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    From Michael Goetz-One thing to remember is that ONLY GFN 21 and GFN 22, amongst all the apps at PrimeGrid, still use double precision. All the other GFN apps, as well as AP27 and PPS-Sieve, do not use double precision at all.

    Interesting.
     
  25. StefanR5R

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    Interesting indeed. Michael Goetz's post which you cited goes on to explain that even GFN-21/22 can fall fall back to single precision, and, depending on the instruction set offered by a particular GPU, might never even touch DP.

    In fact, PrimeGrid's GPU leaderboard show several NVIDIA cards with weak DP beating AMD's Hawaii and Tahiti despite their strong DP support at GFN-21 and GFN-22.