Weekly Stats-12MAR2017

[TennesseeTony]

Time must have gotten stuck sometime the last six months, but it did suddenly Spring Forward last night, by an entire hour, in my location. I think my Boss is behind it all...just one more way to cut my weekend short.

I have decided to discontinue the weekly project highlight....I realized just how little I know. In fact, I have a question instead. Anyone know which GPU apps prefer double precision? I know of Milkyway, Einstein, some PrimeGrid (which ones?), and in development, Universe. EDIT: Einstein is now single precision. Sorry.

Tony.



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Thanks go, as always, to the folks responsible for Free-DC, who make this possible by keeping score for us.

In the event we have any non-crunching AnandTech readers who happen to wander into this thread:

Distributed Computing is where you allow your computing device (smartphones/tablets included) to work on things like medical research, mathematical stuff, sifting through telescope data to further the field of Astronomy, and many other 'citizen science' projects. It allows networked computers to band together to act as a supercomputer.

And you should join us.

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Asteroids@Home overall position - 28
TeAm total for the week - 481,920
TeAm rank for weekly production - 30

__Credit/week _ UserName
1_______180,000______Perry Maskell
2_______176,160______[TA]Assimilator1
3_______119,040______Orange Kid
4_______4,800________geecee
5_______2,400________10esseeTony


Citizen Science Grid overall position - 49
TeAm total for the week - 707,535
TeAm rank for weekly production - 22

__Credit/week _ UserName
1_______688,568______GLeeM
2_______18,966_______geecee


Climate Prediction overall position - 42
TeAm total for the week - 488,265
TeAm rank for weekly production - 45

__Credit/week _ UserName
1_______165,221______evergreencaw
2_______93,301_______Ingleside
3_______93,162_______Bremen
4_______86,421_______James C. Owens
5_______17,478_______asimperson
6_______17,421_______Orange Kid
7_______15,257_______geecee


Collatz Conjecture overall position - 36
TeAm total for the week - 65,972,166
TeAm rank for weekly production - 31

__Credit/week _ UserName
1_______29,749,608___Perry Maskell
2_______19,996,526___Orange Kid
3_______12,875,843___James C. Owens
4_______2,755,608____Thehive
5_______594,579______David


DENIS@Home overall position - 48
TeAm total for the week - 95,340
TeAm rank for weekly production - 12

__Credit/week _ UserName
1_______56,173_______petrusbroder
2_______25,637_______GLeeM
3_______10,519_______Fardringle
4_______2,018________10esseeTony
5_______990__________geecee


DPAD overall position - 3
TeAm total for the week - 3,129,728
TeAm rank for weekly production - 2

__Credit/week _ UserName
1_______1,666,104____Silverthorne
2_______795,185______viztech
3_______668,437______JonB


Enigma@Home overall position - 45
TeAm total for the week - 70,971
TeAm rank for weekly production - 60

__Credit/week _ UserName
1_______29,908_______Bremen
2_______25,622_______GLeeM
3_______9,203________jnj
4_______6,238________geecee


Einstein@Home overall position - 36
TeAm total for the week - 26,657,214
TeAm rank for weekly production - 18

__Credit/week _ UserName
1_______7,234,920____10esseeTony
2_______6,310,444____salvorhardin
3_______6,007,289____scottLobster
4_______2,632,300____[TA]Assimilator1
5_______1,696,917____zzuupp
6_______1,056,178____Prince Dakkar
7_______713,790______elawyn
8_______682,605______Mastergee
9_______72,765_______Victor
10______67,422_______Alan J. Simpson
11______48,510_______GLeeM
12______35,343_______Bruiser
13______27,720_______geecee
14______25,192_______David
15______24,255_______Nick
16______20,000_______James C. Owens
17______11,707_______jnj


Folding@Home overall position - 21
TeAm total for the week - 104,773,508
TeAm rank for weekly production - 20

__Credit/week _ UserName
1_______32,052,380___Mark_F_Williams
2_______18,421,414___xii5ku
3_______6,062,109____crashtech
4_______4,869,673____Weiser
5_______4,384,209____theAnimal
6_______4,088,811____wingding
7_______4,014,274____HutchinsonJC
8_______3,710,949____Feets
9_______3,065,007____Arlen
10______2,341,782____FoldingSolutions
11______2,311,682____Spungo
12______2,161,009____mike9o
13______2,073,048____jro99
14______1,926,173____Cmaxx
15______1,921,947____vsteel
16______1,878,492____uallas5
17______1,580,848____bds71
18______799,507______Charlie22911
19______648,234______Zetbo
20______553,897______Orenj
21______477,670______Mike_F
22______414,425______sk560
23______359,571______MrNorris
24______330,710______Bri79
25______327,183______HundredMetal
26______299,087______JohnnyBT
27______281,310______Drsignguy
28______277,451______DainBramaged
29______262,484______No_aims
30______255,249______Brazos
31______243,259______kbaikovs
32______210,963______deninc66
33______185,500______Jefferson_Folder
34______179,562______Psycnosis
35______172,478______StefanLenz
36______161,664______Maverick2091
37______147,945______Greg_Allbee
38______122,788______ilikepigs
39______115,717______kuruma
40______104,989______mondrasek
41______101,465______rrunswickjr
42______97,962_______MrCommunistGen
43______82,231_______ChasR
44______71,253_______Murphant
45______68,879_______warevs
46______57,421_______Athlex
47______54,987_______TiO2
48______48,148_______knightspawn
49______43,442_______appleache
50______40,518_______ensignlee
51______37,747_______slowbones
52______29,022_______underthefloor
53______23,691_______Greg
54______21,905_______JohnnyWong1213
55______19,790_______Sheckmonster
56______18,100_______AnonPiglet
57______18,083_______Dean
58______17,646_______Maximous
59______16,936_______sduguid
60______16,450_______Karsten_Silz
61______16,322_______Desslok
62______14,099_______Gizmo23
63______13,525_______jkresh
64______12,306_______TA_Smoke
65______9,605________bak688
66______9,198________Anonymous
67______6,752________The_Honkey
68______6,674________fhonyotski
69______2,264________ghamilton2
70______1,007________T0Y69
71______423__________ericlp
72______207__________Dulanic


Gerasim@Home overall position - 27
TeAm total for the week - 45,000
TeAm rank for weekly production - 14

__Credit/week _ UserName
1_______45,000_______Orange Kid


GPUGrid overall position - 22
TeAm total for the week - 44,217,000
TeAm rank for weekly production - 12

__Credit/week _ UserName
1_______24,535,050___10esseeTony
2_______5,943,450____Kaebu
3_______4,862,750____James C. Owens
4_______3,911,525____kart17
5_______2,179,050____Bremen
6_______2,170,625____CGI
7_______351,450______David
8_______263,100______TurbineEngine


Leiden Classical overall position - 13
TeAm total for the week - 182,536
TeAm rank for weekly production - 4

__Credit/week _ UserName
1_______176,949______Fardringle
2_______5,587________geecee


LHC@Home 1.0 overall position - 37
TeAm total for the week - 210,181
TeAm rank for weekly production - 23

__Credit/week _ UserName
1_______57,986_______James C. Owens
2_______43,843_______Sunny129
3_______41,018_______petrusbroder
4_______38,611_______[TA]Assimilator1
5_______14,893_______David
6_______4,582________Fardringle
7_______4,180________zzuupp
8_______3,804________geecee
9_______1,296________thecaptain07
10______139__________scottLobster


Majestic-12 overall position - 21
TeAm total for the week - 37,941,809
TeAm rank for weekly production - 16

__Credit/week _ UserName
1_______29,903,054___Silverthorne
2_______10,727,562___Wedge
3_______9,035,959____StitchExperimen


MilkyWay@Home overall position - 16
TeAm total for the week - 12,407,146
TeAm rank for weekly production - 7

__Credit/week _ UserName
1_______6,421,747____crashtech
2_______4,207,876____iwajabitw
3_______670,205______Christopher
4_______440,556______10esseeTony
5_______438,284______Silverthorne
6_______101,183______salvorhardin
7_______50,950_______James C. Owens
8_______47,851_______geecee
9_______10,799_______IcefireQuickSilver
10______10,719_______thecaptain07
11______4,467________elfenix
12______4,009________RussianSensation


Moo! Wrapper overall position - 40
TeAm total for the week - 3,558,456
TeAm rank for weekly production - 19

__Credit/week _ UserName
1_______3,514,288____GLeeM
2_______25,016_______Perry Maskell
3_______19,152_______Slawterr


NFS@Home overall position - 17
TeAm total for the week - 8,182
TeAm rank for weekly production - 61

__Credit/week _ UserName
1_______8,226________geecee


Primegrid overall position - 46
TeAm total for the week - 4,209,064
TeAm rank for weekly production - 60

__Credit/week _ UserName
1_______1,069,964____SlangNRox
2_______873,089______Fardringle
3_______492,166______geecee
4_______388,673______zzuupp
5_______356,901______Ken_g6
6_______354,735______waffleironhead
7_______328,019______Kiska
8_______261,421______xii5ku
9_______50,809_______mike656
10______19,909_______Chokko
11______13,484_______10esseeTony


Rosetta@Home overall position - 17
TeAm total for the week - 370,253
TeAm rank for weekly production - 22

__Credit/week _ UserName
1_______104,562______BadThad
2_______56,434_______TA_TheReaper
3_______53,495_______crashtech
4_______36,759_______Wiz
5_______29,261_______uallas5
6_______22,126_______xii5ku
7_______15,810_______Victor
8_______13,830_______TeAm Enterprise
9_______8,825________Bremen
10______6,438________FoldingSolutions
11______6,184________salvorhardin
12______5,895________kart17
13______1,914________Bundyman
14______1,689________cyost91
15______1,619________geecee
16______1,001________David
17______295__________elfenix


RC5-72 overall position - 11
TeAm total for the week - 1,014,542
TeAm rank for weekly production - 2

__Credit/week _ UserName
1_______880,590______LANMAN
2_______130,068______stefanlenz@hotmail.com
3_______2,425________Mad Pierre
4_______1,391________f00_devil@yahoo.com
5_______39___________boehm@nc.rr.com
6_______29___________iamwiz82@hotmail.com


SkyNet POGS overall position - 36
TeAm total for the week - 1,348,460
TeAm rank for weekly production - 11

__Credit/week _ UserName
1_______1,327,092____10esseeTony
2_______10,089_______Orange Kid
3_______9,594________geecee


Seti@Home overall position - 23
TeAm total for the week - 6,811,153
TeAm rank for weekly production - 17

__Credit/week _ UserName
1_______1,655,973____Pokey
2_______985,954______Sidewinder
3_______856,917______baxsie
4_______597,256______Lane42
5_______396,877______petrusbroder
6_______355,452______Astro-AL
7_______297,354______Smoke
8_______148,868______Wiz
9_______119,129______evergreencaw
10______119,015______Wayne S
11______110,128______cyost91
12______97,445_______kwhited
13______89,297_______UlricT
14______84,130_______MGallik
15______75,883_______uallas5
16______74,811_______Esiuda
17______68,274_______Dougal
18______66,836_______QuietDad
19______63,335_______Sickle 584th
20______61,077_______James C. Owens
21______59,647_______Shane
22______51,921_______kart17
23______47,166_______catavalon21
24______39,993_______LANMAN
25______34,166_______Jack Whitmire
26______33,512_______Jalapeno
27______27,015_______geecee
28______22,667_______VTrider
29______21,408_______DimensionX
30______19,609_______Carl A. Dimperio Jr.
31______13,884_______Alan J. Simpson
32______12,954_______Steve
33______11,797_______Zeke
34______9,873________Indranil Bal
35______9,496________ElFenix
36______8,422________David
37______7,946________hymy
38______7,780________Dragonslayere
39______7,427________asimperson
40______6,889________Perry Maskell
41______5,389________jnj
42______4,854________Mortimer
43______4,796________RedFox1
44______4,413________Zim Hosein
45______4,194________thomsbrain
46______4,125________IcefireQuickSilver
47______2,733________Nick
48______2,562________scottLobster
49______2,515________Bwatson283
50______2,218________TeAm Tarca - bigwoofer - Douger
51______651__________Arlen - Team AnandTech
52______627__________Viperoni
53______571__________Don
54______541__________liquidsun
55______510__________10esseeTony
56______484__________littletemple
57______306__________mnelsonx
58______281__________ericlp
59______171__________acheron
60______168__________Nikita


TN-Grid overall position - 22
TeAm total for the week - 569
TeAm rank for weekly production - 12

__Credit/week _ UserName
1_______417__________10esseeTony
2_______76___________petrusbroder
3_______74___________GLeeM


Universe@Home overall position - 11
TeAm total for the week - 62,666
TeAm rank for weekly production - 44

__Credit/week _ UserName
1_______33,666_______Silverthorne
2_______22,333_______GLeeM
3_______6,666________geecee


World Community Grid overall position - 62
TeAm total for the week - 1,315,184
TeAm rank for weekly production - 52

__Credit/week _ UserName
1_______304,826______markfw900
2_______184,566______ZipSpeed
3_______135,324______Neurodog
4_______105,700______Kaebu
5_______68,139_______xii5ku
6_______67,370_______Ingleside
7_______65,874_______crashtech
8_______57,530_______wayliff
9_______51,596_______kelemvor33
10______34,893_______rainsford
11______30,818_______Aegeon
12______27,713_______uallas5
13______26,870_______sukhoi_584th
14______20,137_______sangyup81
15______19,047_______Rebel Alliance
16______17,030_______catavalon21
17______16,333_______James C. Owens
18______16,026_______nelsonlew
19______13,192_______geecee
20______12,094_______TheHive
21______11,840_______Arlen - Team AnandTech
22______5,802________djshindo
23______4,559________Elvenstar
24______3,618________asimperson
25______3,194________Sheep221
26______3,058________IcefireQuickSilver
27______2,722________EagleKeeper
28______2,102________zzuupp
29______1,615________thomsbrain
30______1,580________somethingsketchy


Yoyo@Home overall position - 31
TeAm total for the week - 116,219
TeAm rank for weekly production - 16

__Credit/week _ UserName
1_______71,456_______waffleironhead
2_______40,507_______[TA]OrangeKid
3_______4,256________geecee



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Alphabetical List of stat links to some TeAm Projects :

Asteroids

Citizen Science Grid

Climate Prediction

Collatz Conjecture

DENIS -Intermittent

DPAD

Enigma

Einstein

Fight Malaria -Inactive?

Folding@Home

Gerasim

GPU Grid

Leiden Classical

LHC

Majestic12

Malaria Control Project -Inactive?

Milkyway

Moo! Wrapper

NFS

Number Fields

PrimeGrid

Rosetta

RC5/72

POGS

SETI

TN-Grid

Universe

WCG

YAFU

Yoyo

 

[Smoke]

Let's all celebrate ... we made another SPRING FORWARD DAY (in the USA).

Can you tell I'm an old timer?

Good morning Tony, good morning TeAm.


BOINC Championship 2017 League Standings
We are in "League 2" - #9

TeAm AnandTech*
#17 235,353.92 - Overall
#18 88,641.74 - Physical Science
#14 37,830.79 - Biological and Medical Science
#15 76,755.94 - Mathematical
#38 32,125.44 - Miscellaneous
* DC-Vault.com

 

[Orange Kid]

Thanks for the stats, Tony.

 

[GLeeM]

Thanks for the stats, Tony

EDIT: how soon will the Universe GPU app be ready? (here I am moving it to 5M with CPUs, oh well)

 

[StefanR5R]

DC Vault's WCG slot is showing team "Anandtech" at rank 404, instead of "TeAm AnandTech" at rank 63.

 

[iwajabitw]

Morning everyone, thanks for the stats, Tony!

 

[crashtech]

Thanks, Tony! I like your question. I've been having good fun looking for older AMD cards to run, even though they are a bit power hungry, they are easy on the wallet, and to me there is something pretty cool and maybe even a bit elegant about cards that do double precision well.

 

[Kiska]

Thanks for the stats
PrimeGrid genefer app is heavily Double Precision
Also the R9 280x seems the best for FP64 since its 1/4 of FP32

 

[Markfw]

Thanks for the stats Tony !

 

[petrusbroder]

DC Vault's WCG slot is showing team "Anandtech" at rank 404, instead of "TeAm AnandTech" at rank 63.

TeAm AnandTech is the real team. Anandtech is a very old remnant of a time when we had two team captains ... We tried to contact the other, but he was not available and not possible to reach ... so that team remains.

 

[LANMAN]

Thanks for the stats Tony!

 

[TennesseeTony]

I've learned (and tested) that Einstein now (or always?) is (was?) single precision.

I guess my daily output will climb substantially.

 

[iwajabitw]

Always thought Einstein was a DP project too. Soon as I hit 100m in MW I'll hop back over to this project.

 

[crashtech]

Is the requirement for DP or SP a consequence of the calculations themselves, or the way the software is written to perform them?

 

[iwajabitw]

I believe I understand it to be how the the software calculations are written. But the correct hardware has to be used to process it efficiently, or it takes longer to do the do calculations. In a nut shell.

 

[TennesseeTony]

The choice to use single precision or double precision lies in the hands of the author of the software, and which they choose to use is dependent on how precise they want their results to be. Milkyway is double precision out of necessity, because the slightest of errors will be magnified thousands and thousands of times when they extend that vector from one star to another one 100 light years away and try to calculate it's trajectory 1000 years into the past.

Other projects such as Folding, say they can predict the margin of error and compensate somehow, for single precision errors. I guess such projects only need to get a rough idea of what they are looking for, then they can refine that result with further calculations.

On the hardware side, I have no idea how it works, but a sold-out-everywhere GTX 1080Ti has SP/DP ratings of 10608/332 GFLOPS. Whereas the ancient Radeon 7970/280X gets trampled with a SP of only 4096 GFLOPS, it's DP is 1024 GFLOPS. More than triple Nvidia's latest and greatest. The last of the great DP cards, that series is.

But if you're willing to spend the money, the Pro cards have much better DP then their consumer counterparts. Nvidia rules there with the $10,000 P100 GPU Accelerator, having an insane SP/DP output of 10609\5304 GFLOPS. The best value, if it works for BOINC though that I've found, are used FirePro cards, the S9150 (Hawaii based chip) can be found for about $600 and has a DP of 2530 GFLOPS. I have one on the way. I'll keep you updated on if it works with DC or not, but it should. Drawback there is that it is made for servers, and is passively cooled, I'm going to have to use cardboard and Duct tape to attach a funnel and a 120mm fan to it somehow, lol.

 

[iwajabitw]

I thought Tahiti was higher DP than Hawaii, or is it really suped up for the server?

 

[StefanR5R]

DP:SP on consumer Hawaii is limited to 1:8. On server and workstation Hawaii it is 1:2.

(Edit: whereas Tahiti is enabled to 1:4 on consumer, server and workstation.)

 

[iwajabitw]

DP:SP on consumer Hawaii is limited to 1:8. On server and workstation Hawaii it is 1:2.

(Edit: whereas Tahiti is enabled to 1:4 on consumer, server and workstation.)

Thanks, I did not know that.

 

[iwajabitw]

@TennesseeTony If DP is not the factor in Einstein work units, do you know why or have a guess why your 280x rig is out performing the 1070 rig, both with dual cards. Is there any rhyme or reason?

 

[TennesseeTony]

I only switched the 1070's (Mjolnir) to Einstein yesterday, but I'll keep an eye on it. The twin 280X rig (Skeletor) has many hundreds of pending validation tasks to help boost it's score as well, while Mjolnir is still building up steam.

Looking at my account page, I did notice some very interesting things though:

1. WUSS (single 280X) had about a 50% invalid task rate. I put it back on Milkyway to see if it's still of some use there.
2. The Nvidia cards use the CPU 1000 to 1200 seconds per task (running 3 concurrent tasks on all machines), whereas the 280X cards only need help from the CPU 300 to 400 seconds. That is 3 to 4 times more CPU usage for CUDA. Looks like Nvidia card performance may be directly related to CPU performance.
   
3. Last, I noticed that I have at least 1,500,000 points pending, and I only checked half of the machines.

EDIT: What!? I think I see why you asked now, the 1070's seem to take about 1850 seconds on average (for the first page of results), whereas the 280X's only take about 1650. Well, that doesn't make sense.

OH! ...I spend an hour or two gaming on Mjolnir per day on weekends.

Edit #2: I think I found the root cause...I forgot to allocate more CPU when I started on Einstein. I remembered to save some threads on the server chips, but forgot to do that to Mjolnir. No wonder my game would freeze up for a few seconds at a time, 100% CPU load.

 

[iwajabitw]

I've been reading the Einstein forums about this. Granted it is mostly a SP project, but some calc are DP. And if I understand it correctly if the gpu isn't proficient at with DP it has to reference back to the CPU. I didn't have the 280's last time i was crunching Einstein, so I looked at you guys that are. You have monster setup that's is a great reference!

 

[TennesseeTony]

Thanks for the stats
PrimeGrid genefer app is heavily Double Precision
Also the R9 280x seems the best for FP64 since its 1/4 of FP32

From Michael Goetz-One thing to remember is that ONLY GFN 21 and GFN 22, amongst all the apps at PrimeGrid, still use double precision. All the other GFN apps, as well as AP27 and PPS-Sieve, do not use double precision at all.

Interesting.

 

[StefanR5R]

Interesting indeed. Michael Goetz's post which you cited goes on to explain that even GFN-21/22 can fall fall back to single precision, and, depending on the instruction set offered by a particular GPU, might never even touch DP.

In fact, PrimeGrid's GPU leaderboard show several NVIDIA cards with weak DP beating AMD's Hawaii and Tahiti despite their strong DP support at GFN-21 and GFN-22.