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Buffdaddy34

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What is the most popular programming language?

Is this even a language? but if PHP the most popular? or is it just the fastest?

I would like some tips from the people out there. Thanks for the help.
 
1) Probably C++
2) Yes, C++ is a language
3) if (PHP){mostPopular();} huh?
4) PHP is slower than almost every other language out there....
 
thank you, so what is the fastest programming language? I might have my site revamped. If you could help me out with that, that would be great.
 
Its' not for beginner stuff. I want my intern to write in a certain programming language, and i want it to be fast. I had the webpage before done in PHP, and was wondering if there is anything faster than that. The only language he seems to NOT know is PHP.
 
Ever hear of ColdFusion? Fastest way to create dynamic web pages, hands down. Completely tag-based like HTML and takes only a couple of months to master. Only down-side is cost. That's why if you're asking for most "popular", it's ASP (free with IIS). PHP is only popular as Linux is only popular with certain people. Keywords being free and revolutionary.

I've tried PHP/JSP/ASP and they don't even come close. CF is more powerful than you would think, yet so simple to code (since it's java-based and has all the capabilities packed into tags). Give it a try (macromedia trials) and you can tell me I'm wrong - if you really believe that.

BTW, I need clarification... when you say fast, do you mean fast to learn/code or fast at runtime?
 
what does web DESIGN has to do with which language to choose from? Its a separate issue.

I think asp.net is pretty good if you are on a windows platform. Your modules are precompiled into a dll which makes processing faster upon request of dynamic parts of your website. Other than that, my friend uses PHP and says not only there is huge support for it on the net, but it is free 🙂

 
Agreed, web page design has nothing to do with web page scripting languages.

But, PHP is great, quick to learn, excellent documentation, many platforms, and FREE!
 
web page programming then, let me clear that up for you, the fastest to load, not necessarily the fastest to learn. I'm trying to figure out which language loads the fastest on a webpage. I want something that loads fast, and is generally used by everyone.

Thanks for all the help, looks like ASP, and PHP are the two front runners.

 
whoever said php was slow, you are a stupid moron. php is the way to go. IFF you have a windows webserver, then consider ASP. PHP works great on ahything, do NOT use ASP on linux.
 
Any web scripting language will be more than fast enough, unless of course, its like a huge enterprise level project where you're getting 100,000 visitors daily. But somehow it doesn't seem like this is oen of those...

Think about it, any scripting language will probably spit out the page in less than 1/10 of a second, its going to take the browser AT LEAST 1 or 2 seconds ( even on broadband, at 120kb a second, figure thats at least half a second for a 60k page full of images and graphics, plus TCP/IP overhead, plus the time it takes to negotiate and establish the connection ) to download the file and all the images, so an extra 1/10 of a second is negligible. Even at 100,000 visitors a month, which is quite considerable for a small business website, thats only 1 person every 3 or 4 minutes average ( if the math off the top of my head is right... )

Besides, a huge chunk of people ( is it safe to say most still? ) are still on dial-up, where you're looking at way more than 2 seconds to even dl the contents of the page.
 
have any of oyu guys heard of VB.net?

I want to know what you guys think about that. Thanks for all the useful information, you guys/gals have been great.
 
ok, I'm a dunce, VB is visual basic, lol. ok, anyways, let the battle continue, I want to know if I should go with PHP, ASP, or VB? If it's all negligible by 1/10 of a second, then tell me what you prefer.
 
how about perl using cgi.pm?
the only complain i have with them is their formatting/spacing (when view source) is messed up
but then again, who actually reads the output of cgi program in plain text?
 
Yes, PHP is slow.

They test 30 languages for speed.

Ackerman's function: PHP scores second to last in CPU time.
Array Access: PHP is second to last.
Counting lines/words/characters: PHP is 24th out of 28 completed tests.|
Cmputing fibonacci numbers: PHP is second to last.
Accessing a hash: PHP did pretty average, coming in 16th.
They ran a second hash test, in which PHP came in third from last.
In heapsort, PHP came in second to last.
For a simple "hello world" program, PHP came in 22nd
Multiplying matrices: PHP came in dead last.
Running nested loops: PHP came in dead last.
Random number generation, PHP is dead last
Reversing a file: PHP is second to last.
Sieve of Eratosthenes benchmark: PHP is second to last
As a spell checker, PHP came in 22nd.
Fairly average in string concatenation, at 17th.
Adding integers, PHP is 3rd to last.

The ONLY language that PHP consistently outperformed was gawk.

All you PHP fanboys can jump off your high horse now.
 
Originally posted by: notfred
Yes, PHP is slow.

They test 30 languages for speed.

Ackerman's function: PHP scores second to last in CPU time.
Array Access: PHP is second to last.
Counting lines/words/characters: PHP is 24th out of 28 completed tests.|
Cmputing fibonacci numbers: PHP is second to last.
Accessing a hash: PHP did pretty average, coming in 16th.
They ran a second hash test, in which PHP came in third from last.
In heapsort, PHP came in second to last.
For a simple "hello world" program, PHP came in 22nd
Multiplying matrices: PHP came in dead last.
Running nested loops: PHP came in dead last.
Random number generation, PHP is dead last
Reversing a file: PHP is second to last.
Sieve of Eratosthenes benchmark: PHP is second to last
As a spell checker, PHP came in 22nd.
Fairly average in string concatenation, at 17th.
Adding integers, PHP is 3rd to last.

The ONLY language that PHP consistently outperformed was gawk.

All you PHP fanboys can jump off your high horse now.
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you really are stupid eh? YOU CAN'T COMPARE C++ TO PHP YOU STUPID ******!! do you even know ANY language? I'm thinking no. now please stfd and stfu, you do not know what you are talking about.

People like you make me sick.
 
Hey, mister high and mighty asshole w/ a temper problem and a weak stomach, what question did he ask?

so what is the fastest programming language?
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Oh, that's right, he asked for the fastest programming langugage! Would you like to tell me what that is?

Hey, if you REALLY want, you can eliminate C and C++ from those tests, then PHP can score second to last out of 28 instead of second to last out of 30.


You think you're such a fricking genious, go ahead, challenge me. You come up with a coding problem that you think you can get to run faster in PHP than I can in some other language. Pick whatever you want, one of the classic intro to programming questions like recursive fibbonacci numbers or the Towers of Hanoi problem. Or maybe finding prime numbers, parsing text, whatever you want.

So, put your money where your mouth is or shut up and get out my face, newb.

BTW, I'm fully expecting you to reply with something moronic like "OK, let's see who can make a program that can query a MySQL database faster" or something similar that relies almost entirely on the performance of the database server and not at all on the language involved, so just save yourself the embarrassment.
 
Originally posted by: Buffdaddy34
What is the most popular programming language?

Is this even a language? but if PHP the most popular? or is it just the fastest?

I would like some tips from the people out there. Thanks for the help.
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You are asking the wrong questions. First off we need to know what you'll be doing. Once that is established, you then decide what is the best way to accomplish that goal. Language X may be great for some things while it's crappy at others. IE: C/C++ Is an extremely robust and popular language for a wide array of things. But for a web based application you would probably choose something else. There is no be all end all language (oo I wish, no more new languages to learn! 😛 ).
 
Originally posted by: everman
Originally posted by: Buffdaddy34
What is the most popular programming language?

Is this even a language? but if PHP the most popular? or is it just the fastest?

I would like some tips from the people out there. Thanks for the help.
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You are asking the wrong questions. First off we need to know what you'll be doing. Once that is established, you then decide what is the best way to accomplish that goal. Language X may be great for some things while it's crappy at others. IE: C/C++ Is an extremely robust and popular language for a wide array of things. But for a web based application you would probably choose something else. There is no be all end all language (oo I wish, no more new languages to learn! 😛 ).
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I totally agree with everman on this. What kind of web application will you develop in the backend? What tools and platforms do you have available? ... etc...








 
Originally posted by: notfred
Hey, mister high and mighty asshole w/ a temper problem and a weak stomach, what question did he ask?

so what is the fastest programming language?
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Oh, that's right, he asked for the fastest programming langugage! Would you like to tell me what that is?

Hey, if you REALLY want, you can eliminate C and C++ from those tests, then PHP can score second to last out of 28 instead of second to last out of 30.


You think you're such a fricking genious, go ahead, challenge me. You come up with a coding problem that you think you can get to run faster in PHP than I can in some other language. Pick whatever you want, one of the classic intro to programming questions like recursive fibbonacci numbers or the Towers of Hanoi problem. Or maybe finding prime numbers, parsing text, whatever you want.

So, put your money where your mouth is or shut up and get out my face, newb.

BTW, I'm fully expecting you to reply with something moronic like "OK, let's see who can make a program that can query a MySQL database faster" or something similar that relies almost entirely on the performance of the database server and not at all on the language involved, so just save yourself the embarrassment.
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do you remember what the title of this thread is? he was talking about developing web content which cannot be done with C/C++.
14000 posts? seriously dude you need to get a life.

 
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