Web hosting - 300 MB/5GB Bandwidth - 2 for 1. $9.95

[davechri]

Manage my Hosting is offering a buy one-get one free deal on their 300MB/5GB packages.

$9.95 per year.

(I'm not affiliated, but I have a site hosted and have been satified so far.)

Click here

 

[T3C]

Needs more storage....

 

[nealr]

Originally posted by: TechITguy
Needs more storage....

$10/yr is pretty inexpensive though. I don't know of any less expensive ones?

 

[czech09]

Seems like a good deal. 300 megs is not much but 5gb of bandwidth is not bad for $10, not to mention you get 2 of these dang not bad @ all. Might go through with this.

 

[Crono]

EDIT

 

[misterj]

any background or experience info?

 

[gsaldivar]

I doubt $10 a year covers the cost on this service, which may suggest something about the longevity of the company offering it...

 

[RossMAN]

Originally posted by: davechri
(I'm not affiliated, but I have a site hosted and have been satified so far.)

What domain do you have hosted with them?

 

[davechri]

It's my daughter's site and used primarily for email, so I'd rather not post it.

 

[helloedchen]

$10/year, wonder where the 'profit' actually comes into play.

 

[czech09]

Originally posted by: gsaldivar
I doubt $10 a year covers the cost on this service, which may suggest something about the longevity of the company offering it...

If it doesn't and they don't tell you upfront, you can always call your credit card company and file a complaint against the charge etc.

 

[douglasb]

There is a much better deal to be found with Dreamhost, but it requires a coupon code, which is against forum rules (why coupon codes are not allowed in a "Hot Deals" forum is mind-boggling, but that's the way it is). Search around and I'm sure you'll find it.

 

[douglasb]

coupon codes not allowed on these forums

 

[macosx]

Originally posted by: GideonX
$10/year, wonder where the 'profit' actually comes into play.

Originally posted by: czech09

Originally posted by: gsaldivar
I doubt $10 a year covers the cost on this service, which may suggest something about the longevity of the company offering it...

If it doesn't and they don't tell you upfront, you can always call your credit card company and file a complaint against the charge etc.

Another company that competes in the same price point and has received good reviews (do a search) is hostpc.com. Like the other fellow, I've had an account on hostpc for half a year now, and I'm nowhere near the limit. How they do it is simple: automation. Everything is virtually just a program (sign-up, billing, etc.) except for running the host/programs and support.

The marginal cost of software is low, and much of the stuff they run is freeware. So even if there is some proprietary stuff, it's only a few hundred per host. Now go to dell and you can buy a PowerEdge 2850 with 6 300GB 10K RPM Ultra 320 SCSI Hard Drives for about $10,000, that's 1.8 terabytes! A T-3 line is less than $100000 a year these days, so you get 54Mbps or 150TB/mo if my calculations are correct. So, without sharing (assuming no conflict - poor assumption), that's enough for 3000 accounts in bandwith and 6000 accounts in storage.

At $10/year and 3000 accounts, that's only $30,000, but if you double up the accounts and overload the bandwidth, you get $60,000 without ever running out of disk space. Of course, you can continue this another double to 120000 accounts and now you're about break even from a hardware standpoint. If all your users maxed out their accounts, you'd be in trouble, but my guess is that most users are nowhere near the max. You could probably overload 8 or 16 times the nominal sold bandwith/storage before running into some trouble during peak times. Of course the fly-by-night operations are doing 300x or more and pretty much getting out of town before the users start to notice. HostPC has been around for a number of years and seems to have done a decent job with balancing load and growth. Also, with extra revenue, they are providing some support as well and I believe they are following a sustainable model. I hope this offer is from a similar company that will be comparable, and not some operation that won't be around in a year or two.

 

[DeviousTrap]

Originally posted by: macosx

Originally posted by: GideonX
$10/year, wonder where the 'profit' actually comes into play.

Originally posted by: czech09

Originally posted by: gsaldivar
I doubt $10 a year covers the cost on this service, which may suggest something about the longevity of the company offering it...

If it doesn't and they don't tell you upfront, you can always call your credit card company and file a complaint against the charge etc.

Another company that competes in the same price point and has received good reviews (do a search) is hostpc.com. Like the other fellow, I've had an account on hostpc for half a year now, and I'm nowhere near the limit. How they do it is simple: automation. Everything is virtually just a program (sign-up, billing, etc.) except for running the host/programs and support.

The marginal cost of software is low, and much of the stuff they run is freeware. So even if there is some proprietary stuff, it's only a few hundred per host. Now go to dell and you can buy a PowerEdge 2850 with 6 300GB 10K RPM Ultra 320 SCSI Hard Drives for about $10,000, that's 1.8 terabytes! A T-3 line is less than $100000 a year these days, so you get 54Mbps or 150TB/mo if my calculations are correct. So, without sharing (assuming no conflict - poor assumption), that's enough for 3000 accounts in bandwith and 6000 accounts in storage.

At $10/year and 3000 accounts, that's only $30,000, but if you double up the accounts and overload the bandwidth, you get $60,000 without ever running out of disk space. Of course, you can continue this another double to 120000 accounts and now you're about break even from a hardware standpoint. If all your users maxed out their accounts, you'd be in trouble, but my guess is that most users are nowhere near the max. You could probably overload 8 or 16 times the nominal sold bandwith/storage before running into some trouble during peak times. Of course the fly-by-night operations are doing 300x or more and pretty much getting out of town before the users start to notice. HostPC has been around for a number of years and seems to have done a decent job with balancing load and growth. Also, with extra revenue, they are providing some support as well and I believe they are following a sustainable model. I hope this offer is from a similar company that will be comparable, and not some operation that won't be around in a year or two.

You're logic has a few flaws. Support is actually a significant expensive, and no decent host would dare put that many accounts on one server. The problem is not storage, but rather processor power and ram avaliablility. There are very few servers that could handle 3,000 well. HostPC has 20+ servers that the domains are spead out on and each of those cost $100 a month or so. Very doable, but its not all on one server.

Your bandwidth calculations are also wrong. 54mbps = 17.28TB, 1mbps = 320gb if used at max capacity 24x7x30. Most web hosts oversell, but 8 to 16 times is also a large number, I highly doubt HostPC oversells by that much.

 

[RossMAN]

douglasb,

I would recommend reading the Hot Deals Forum Rules as you have already broken two rules:

1) No referral/affiliate links.
2) No coupon codes.

Also your DreamHost deal is a repost.

 

[macosx]

Originally posted by: DeviousTrap

Originally posted by: macosx

Originally posted by: GideonX
$10/year, wonder where the 'profit' actually comes into play.

Originally posted by: czech09

Originally posted by: gsaldivar
I doubt $10 a year covers the cost on this service, which may suggest something about the longevity of the company offering it...

If it doesn't and they don't tell you upfront, you can always call your credit card company and file a complaint against the charge etc.

Another company that competes in the same price point and has received good reviews (do a search) is hostpc.com. Like the other fellow, I've had an account on hostpc for half a year now, and I'm nowhere near the limit. How they do it is simple: automation. Everything is virtually just a program (sign-up, billing, etc.) except for running the host/programs and support.

The marginal cost of software is low, and much of the stuff they run is freeware. So even if there is some proprietary stuff, it's only a few hundred per host. Now go to dell and you can buy a PowerEdge 2850 with 6 300GB 10K RPM Ultra 320 SCSI Hard Drives for about $10,000, that's 1.8 terabytes! A T-3 line is less than $100000 a year these days, so you get 54Mbps or 150TB/mo if my calculations are correct. So, without sharing (assuming no conflict - poor assumption), that's enough for 3000 accounts in bandwith and 6000 accounts in storage.

At $10/year and 3000 accounts, that's only $30,000, but if you double up the accounts and overload the bandwidth, you get $60,000 without ever running out of disk space. Of course, you can continue this another double to 120000 accounts and now you're about break even from a hardware standpoint. If all your users maxed out their accounts, you'd be in trouble, but my guess is that most users are nowhere near the max. You could probably overload 8 or 16 times the nominal sold bandwith/storage before running into some trouble during peak times. Of course the fly-by-night operations are doing 300x or more and pretty much getting out of town before the users start to notice. HostPC has been around for a number of years and seems to have done a decent job with balancing load and growth. Also, with extra revenue, they are providing some support as well and I believe they are following a sustainable model. I hope this offer is from a similar company that will be comparable, and not some operation that won't be around in a year or two.

You're logic has a few flaws. Support is actually a significant expensive, and no decent host would dare put that many accounts on one server. The problem is not storage, but rather processor power and ram avaliablility. There are very few servers that could handle 3,000 well. HostPC has 20+ servers that the domains are spead out on and each of those cost $100 a month or so. Very doable, but its not all on one server.

Your bandwidth calculations are also wrong. 54mbps = 17.28TB, 1mbps = 320gb if used at max capacity 24x7x30. Most web hosts oversell, but 8 to 16 times is also a large number, I highly doubt HostPC oversells by that much.

Actually, that's exactly my point. Support is usually the last thing some of these companies consider, but probably one of the most important things to a customer, next to functional performance. I'm sure my calculations and estimates are not accurate, but it's easy to see that it's not impossible for a company to add on a $10 service and make money. I did my calculations from a scratch system. You're probably right that a system's processor/ram has a significant effect (BTW, I used 2GB when I priced the 1.6TB system and it came to under $10k, though I didn't upgrade the default processor.)In any case, the bandwith cost which I looked up later overshadowed any hardware costs. You could easily split the system onto 6 servers each with a single hard drive, rather than one system with 6 large hard drives without going up too much in cost. Are my bandwith costs in the ballpark?

Say you have an existing hosting service with excess bandwith/processor/RAM, so you just need to add a 300GB drive and you have potentially room for 1000 new customers. At $1000 for the drive, that's $1 for the storage and $9 for support or $9 profit if you don't provide any support. Some of the come-and-gone operations discussed in other threads have gone the latter route.

Anyone know how long has this company been round? The background behind the operators?

You're right about the 17TB bandwith, I miscalculated somewhere before. So, 17TB/5GB=3400 users without any overlap. (strange how I reached the 3000 number before...perhaps I had the right number somewhere along the line and gotten it wrong in the total). So, if the cost is $100,000 per 3400 users, that's about $30 a year in bandwith alone. Without significantly overloading, there's no way to make the cost work. Maybe the cost estimate is too high and the need for a 10X overloading is not necessary. Or maybe there's some demand based bandwith service that can average out the cost lower.

 

[HyTekJosh]

Originally posted by: czech09

Originally posted by: gsaldivar
I doubt $10 a year covers the cost on this service, which may suggest something about the longevity of the company offering it...

If it doesn't and they don't tell you upfront, you can always call your credit card company and file a complaint against the charge etc.

Why not try to work it out with them first? Jumping to do a chargeback is foolish as a first step approach.

 

[misterj]

is there a ratings site somewhere? i could make do with the say, the top 10 for bare bones/low traffic service for myself, then top 20 for say, your mom/relative/friend.

Originally posted by: macosx
Of course the fly-by-night operations are doing 300x or more and pretty much getting out of town before the users start to notice.

thats what i'm wondering. i'll look into the hosts mentioned in this thread.

 

[macosx]

Originally posted by: misterj
is there a ratings site somewhere? i could make do with the say, the top 10 for bare bones/low traffic service for myself, then top 20 for say, your mom/relative/friend.

Originally posted by: macosx
Of course the fly-by-night operations are doing 300x or more and pretty much getting out of town before the users start to notice.

thats what i'm wondering. i'll look into the hosts mentioned in this thread.

Looked around, but his company seems to be a little young to have made the ratings. Still, based on the some of the details I've seen, it appears that they have a bona fide business plan and I wish them luck. I'm considering throwing my $10 in the hat on this one, though the plan seems somewhat limited in several ways. If you just need a basic web site and a few e-mail accounts on your domain, this may work (that is mainly what I'd use this special account for now).

Did a search on the archives and found the infamous Cyberwings offers. Try:
Cyberwings web hosting, 50% off sale. 110mb, 6GB transfer $3.90 a YEAR! and Cyberwings' Shawn gets jailtime!. There's lots more if you care.

A few details that were of interest to me at managemyhosting.com FAQ and other pages:
They also run managemyservices.com, managemybox.com, and managemynames.com. One of those domains was registered in 2003 and is consistent with their claim that the business has been 1 year in the planning.

The package has "These packages have LIMITED support".

What specifications are your servers?
These vary, all servers are INTEL based with at least 512-1GB RAM and 80-120GB hard drives.

 

[M0NEYSH0T]

ICE COLD
www.readyhosting.com
500MB, unlimited transfer, 99$/Year

 

[Crono]

EDIT

 

[mplutodh1]

Cheap hosts.. alright... but its hard to find one thats reliable and has great customer service, I go with Parcom.net for all my stuff. Awesome packages, family run and amazing service.

http://hosting.parcom.net/services/shared_hosting/parcom_comparison_chart.htm

12 months, with 1 month free for $42 bucks
750MB
Unmetered Bandwidth (although as mentioned unmetered doesnt always mean fastest although ive never had a problem)
Instant setup online (which I haven't used yet as its a new service for them)


I've hosted with them since 2002 with no problems, they have grown considerably since then. My first account was 100MB and I have been upgraded again and again without additional fees. Spam service is pretty sweet and not to mention for me, located fairly locally. Win2k3 servers.

 

[Kravahn]

I'll stick with my dixiesys.com. I got in on the $3.95 a month deal several years ago, but they have a similar plan now for $8.95 a month. Always fast, always good bandwidth. Service tickets are responded to within 12 hours (my experience) even on weekends.