web designers/anyone that made their own website

stev0

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well... i figured since i'm done with my web program here at NDSCS and will be transfering up to MSUM (minnesota state university) for graphic communications, i should probably get a personal website up, well.. a better looking one anyway.

for those of you that make your own sites, do you often get so picky with your sites that you never get anything done? tonight i spent 3+ hours on the navigation "bar" that i'm planning on having, only i ended up saving it as something else because i didn't like the way it looked. do you just say "fvck it" and use what you have? or do you go back and start all over till you have something that you think looks perfect?

time after time i spend nights working on parts of the page... only to come back the next day and cut it out because it looks like crap. (in the creators eyes it looks like that way anyway)

/sigh :(

why do i have to be such a perfectionist?
 

jonmullen

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I feel the same way, I create some pretty cool sites for other people, but when is comes down to making myself a site, I can never get any work done. I often toy with the idea of buying a template and not messing with it and just messing with the content. The problem is I can't justify it knowing I could do it myself if I just spent the time.
 

spyordie007

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after a while you get good at making things quickly.

generally I dont do anything until I have a good idea what I want in my head than sit down for a few hours and work out the layout.

The stuff that takes all your time is scripting I do CFM/SQL + PHP/MySQL and there are plenty of times where I will have the layout done in a matter of minutes however will spend hours trying to get all my scripts to work right :|

-Spy
 

ThePresence

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I always create an image first of what I want the site to look like. I only start coding after I'm happy with the layout idea.
 

aphex

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use a CMS, makes your life alot simpler :)
 

spyordie007

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Originally posted by: amdskip
Originally posted by: aphex
use a CMS, makes your life alot simpler :)
Whats that?
A way to make cheap, lazy HTML code.
rolleye.gif


-Spy
 

Imaginer

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Used to. But then I always fall back on using and doing something simple.
 

gopunk

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Originally posted by: spyordie007
Originally posted by: amdskip
Originally posted by: aphex
use a CMS, makes your life alot simpler :)
Whats that?
A way to make cheap, lazy HTML code.
rolleye.gif


-Spy

content management system....

but iirc, that's just a way to update your site... not make the design... maybe i am thinking of something else...
 

Barnaby W. Füi

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KenGr

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One of these days, I'm really going to learn web design and make something really elegant.

However, at this point all I really care about is getting something usable out there to share some stuff with my friends. I use Front Page, Front Page Express, Word, Notepad, whatever. I don't use FP extensions, animation, frames. I just find a neutral background I can live with, put up text and pictures, use words for links instead of buttons and graphics and I get a page up in ten minutes when I want to.

 

Barnaby W. Füi

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And another thing to note, I tend to just use text and CSS, if you want to start using images and tables for layout - be prepared for some pain. I've spent god knows how long trying to get this working, still looks like ass in most browsers. :-/
 

stev0

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Originally posted by: BingBongWongFooey
The solution is: changing it all the time.

I've never been totally happy with how my site looks, so I just redo it every month or two or three. The "site" is only one page anyways, I just let the other stuff be organized by the layout of the file hierarchy and link to the neat stuff on the front page.

current
before that
before that
before that
before that
way before that
before that
link above during development of my blog
way before that, my very first website design

thats so much work though :p (re-doing your site all the time). i'm trying for something that is really... ehh... industrial i guess you could say (fairly graphical) w/ a nice flash intro and some little drop down menu's, ect. i'm trying to show off the skills that i have... i can just never find something that i'm happy with though :-/
 

ChrisIsBored

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Screw the intro... they're annoying and mostly not impressive. People want to get to the content.. not read the BS about you hyping yourself up.

I've been pretty happy with a design I did almost a year ago.... that site isn't updated too often except for adding photos.
 

Barnaby W. Füi

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thats so much work though :p (re-doing your site all the time).
Not really. Alot of changes I made were almost completely CSS. Usually it never takes more than a few hours for a huge change, because most of the stuff stays the same (most of it is content produced by outside scripts). I like to keep things simple, and in web design, NOT doing that makes things a HUGE pain in the ass. Huge, badly coded, inflexible webpages suck.