Wealthy Arab Countries doing nothing for Syrian refugees

[Whiskey16]

mmntech, strong on Harper's Kool-Aid:

This is despite the fact that Canada lets in over a hundred of thousand of immigrants per year, many of whom are refugees. Amazing how the news conveniently forgets that when they have a sensationalist photo to attack the PM with during an election campaign.

How dare the "news" critique a lying incumbent Prime Minister on the campaign trail?

Canada's refugee acceptance falls far short of Stephen Harper's claims

Canada in 41st, not 1st place, as 'per capita refugee receiver in the world'

The Harper government has long portrayed Canada as the country most open to refugees, relative to the size of the country's population. As the election campaign focus turned to the Syrian refugee crisis, this has become a Conservative Party talking point since last week.

Stephen Harper made the point himself at least twice on Wednesday. Answering journalists' questions in Welland, Ont., he referred to Canada as "the largest per capita refugee receiver in the world."

Answering another question about Syrian refugees, he said, "Let's put this in context," and then continued, "Canada is the largest resettler of refugees per capita in the world by far."

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The UNHCR ranks Canada not first, but tied for 41st place in refugees per capita.

Canada not No. 1 on immigration, either

During the election campaign, Harper has also said that "Canada is the largest per capita receiver of new immigrants in the entire world."

The 2014 number works out to 733 immigrants per 100,000 Canadians. Compare that with the 8,968 Syrian refugees per 100,000 inhabitants who arrived in Lebanon last year and it's clear Canada would have a long way to go before Harper's statement was accurate.

And what about Harper's use of the term "resettler" in one of those statements quoted at the top of the article?

Harper could be referring to resettlement, a UNHCR term for "the transfer of refugees from an asylum country to another state." Only 26 countries have resettlement programs under which a mere 105,200 refugees were transferred in 2014, compared with the 2.9 million people who became refugees in 2014.

The U.S. received 70 per cent of the refugees who were resettled in 2014. Canada was No. 2 in resettlement of refugees.

Not only is Canada not "the largest resettler of refugees per capita by far," as Harper said, it is not even the largest resettler of refugees per capita. For that honour, Harper should be praising Australia, which admitted 49 resettled refugees per 100,000 inhabitants, compared with 35 by Canada.

OOps.... mmntech, wants to praise Harper for its failed immigrant file and whine about the poor man being hounded by the media.. Suck the truth up and stop standing by your man, mmntech.

 

[KMFJD]

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news...he-blames-canada-for-tragedy/article26313666/

Abdullah Kurdi told Die Welt that he does not understand why Canada rejected his application for asylum, although Citizenship and Immigration Canada received no such application from the man.

When Die Welt asked Kurdi whether he blamed anyone for the tragedy, he responded: “Yes, the authorities in Canada, which rejected my application for asylum, even though there were five families who were willing to support us financially.”

Citizenship and Immigration received an application for Kurdi’s brother, Mohammed, but said it was incomplete and did not meet regulatory requirements for proof of refugee status recognition.

Kurdi’s sister, Tima, who lives in Coquitlam, B.C., has said that she only submitted an application for Mohammed. She intended to sponsor him, and subsequently to apply to sponsor Abdullah Kurdi and his young family as well.

Blame Canada indeed

 

[Whiskey16]

KMFJD, here to provide disconnected spin:

Citizenship and Immigration received an application for Kurdi’s brother, Mohammed, but said it was incomplete and did not meet regulatory requirements for proof of refugee status recognition.

Yes, it was incomplete due to the Conservatives 2012 changes with their 'Protecting Canada’s Immigration System Act.'

The 'incompletion' was due to lacking Canada's new and onerous requirements for all claimants to now have official approval and documentation from the United Nations Refugee Agency. For the Kurdi family in Turkey, this was a critical cause for their limbo and need to flee by boat -- Turkey denies the UNHCR from appropriately working within in borders.

Further, under Harper, the Ministry of Citizenship and Immigration has faced dramatic manpower and funding cutbacks.

Don't just take my critical word for, let's read the relatively right-wing National Post:

Coming to Canada: Immigration staff shortage, red tape bog down refugee claims

As a growing number of Canadians step up to sponsor Syrian refugees and provinces and churches pledge to do more, a bureaucratic bottleneck is slowing the complex work of bringing displaced migrants to Canada.

The onerous refugee admission process — which requires United Nations approval and visa officers on the ground conducting hour-long interviews with migrants — takes, on average, a year.

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While the federal government holds the line on its previous promise of 10,000 Syrian refugees in the next three years, provincial, religious and community leaders continued to apply political pressure this week — calling for regulations to be waived and planes to airlift refugees to Canada, where the necessary interviews can occur.

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The Catholic church also ramped up its efforts to aid Syrian refugees this week, responding to an urgent world-wide plea from Pope Francis. The Archdiocese of Toronto Tuesday pledged to raise $3 million to help settle 100 refugee families in the Toronto area — their financial target based on the $30,000 on average the government requires per family for resettlement. Its Office for Refugees director is travelling to the Middle East next month to help refugees fill out 60-page English documents to apply for status in Canada.

“To have refugees whose first language is probably not English and they have totally different logic and mentality than a CIC officer, it’s a great help,” said Dr. Martin Mark. “It helps expedite the process, and we file it and at the same time look for sponsors to match.”

To explain the slow response, critics point to 2012’s Protecting Canada’s Immigration System Act. It restricts private sponsorship ‘groups of five’ to bringing in refugees who are officially recognized by the United Nations Refugee Agency.

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“Right now, if they’re in Europe, under our regulations, their lives are technically not in danger because they are in a so-called ‘safe place’.” Canada can “relieve the pressure” by going to Budapest and Athens, she said, and as an exception to rules, such as the Dublin Agreement, which mandates refugees stay in the first ‘safe’ nation they land.

Blame Canada indeed

Blame for Harper, indeed.

 

[Blanky]

Some of these countries know these people are going to bring a ton of problems along with them. Any country accepting them better realize it's on the hook to feed and clothe them for many years and, if the host country's religion isn't in line with theirs, a continual source of friction.

 

[WhipperSnapper]

Here's a list of countries that you can organize in terms of refugees per capita:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canada-refugees-harper-numbers-accepted-1.3222918

Why are we picking on poor Canada?

How many refugees is Japan taking in? Australia? New Zealand? France? Mexico? Russia? China? Etc.

 

[bshole]

It should be remembered that unchecked immigration can cause the host country to fail. If I remember correctly, many historians blame the fall of the Roman empire is on Germanic immigration. These people seem perpetually stuck in the dark ages with no interest in adopting secular western ideals.

 

[IGBT]

all the so called "refugees" are actually able bodied liberals fleeing to europe to get free benefits / social welfare / get their teeth cleaned for free. It's like honey to a bear..or free marijuana to a liberal.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

all the so called "refugees" are actually able bodied liberals fleeing to europe to get free benefits / social welfare / get their teeth cleaned for free. It's like honey to a bear..or free marijuana to a liberal.

I'd bet many AT members would contribute for a trip to Syria for you.

 

[IGBT]

I'd bet many AT members would contribute for a trip to Syria for you.

there is no doubt about it..those so called "refugees" are nearly all liberals. They want free. And they are running towards "free" like only a liberal can.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

there is no doubt about it..those so called "refugees" are nearly all liberals. They want free. And they are running towards "free" like only a liberal can.

I suppose the barrel bombs dropped from helicopters or the ISIS beheadings or ISIS taking young women for sex slaves or the general lack of food or medicine or living in a fucking war zone that has been going on for years has nothing to do with it.

 

[IGBT]

I suppose the barrel bombs dropped from helicopters or the ISIS beheadings or ISIS taking young women for sex slaves or the general lack of food or medicine or living in a fucking war zone that has been going on for years has nothing to do with it.

why did all those able bodied liberals stand around and allow that to happen??

 

[Fanatical Meat]

why did all those able bodied liberals stand around and allow that to happen??

I am shocked at the level of ignorance in this post. Have you lived on the Earth for more than 15 years?

Please tell me the specific action steps you would take if Rebel fighting cut off food and most water to your town. The fighting is in multiple locations 12-25 miles away from you.

 

[WhipperSnapper]

I'd bet many AT members would contribute for a trip to Syria for you.

Lol. If IGBT were a citizen of Syria, I bet he'd be running for as life faster than he can type a forum post.

 

[rpanic]

Saudi Arabia is going to help Germany out.

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/201...audi-arabia-mosques-in-germany_n_8115492.html

 

[IndyColtsFan]

Saudi Arabia is going to help Germany out.

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/201...audi-arabia-mosques-in-germany_n_8115492.html

Wow, I had to double-check to make sure it wasn't an Onion article. What a moronic gesture.

 

[Gryz]

Neighboring village is gonna build a tenting camp for 3000 Syrian refugees. In the middle of the woods. I live on the other side of those woods, just 5 km from the camp. Not happy.

 

[KMFJD]

Neighboring village is gonna build a tenting camp for 3000 Syrian refugees. In the middle of the woods. I live on the other side of those woods, just 5 km from the camp. Not happy.

Make sure your bike is hidden.....i'm surprised there aren't rules against them staying in the woods....

 

[bshole]

Wow, I had to double-check to make sure it wasn't an Onion article. What a moronic gesture.

Saudi Arabia is taking a rational step in self-preservation. I can't help but believe that this is going to go sideways for Germany and the other European states that accept these people. I certainly hope the incoming refugees adopt secular westernized ethics and don't attempt to replace them with failed medieval superstitions and hatred.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Isn't Syria fairly secular?
They never appeared to be overly occupied with God.
I could be wrong I just don't know.

 

[bshole]

Isn't Syria fairly secular?
They never appeared to be overly occupied with God.
I could be wrong I just don't know.

I take it you never heard of ISIS..... ROFLMAO.....

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Saudi Arabia is going to help Germany out.

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/201...audi-arabia-mosques-in-germany_n_8115492.html

Huff post page crashes on my mobile but I did see the headline.
Haha thanks for giving a fuck Saudi Arabia.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

I take it you never heard of ISIS..... ROFLMAO.....

I'm talking the regular guy on the street.

 

[Nebor]

I'm talking the regular guy on the street.

Large scale political movements like ISIS can't exist without grass-roots support. Syria had a dual legal system of civil & sharia courts before their civil war. The country is 90% muslim with virtually everyone attending religious schools run by mosques.

 

[Nebor]

Saudi Arabia is going to help Germany out.

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/201...audi-arabia-mosques-in-germany_n_8115492.html

Interesting that they ignore the part of the Koran about not abandoning their fellow muslim, but are going whole hog (pun intended) on the jihad & global Islam part.

In essence, Germany is paying their invaders to invade them and replace their culture with their own. Madness.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Large scale political movements like ISIS can't exist without grass-roots support. Syria had a dual legal system of civil & sharia courts before their civil war. The country is 90% muslim with virtually everyone attending religious schools run by mosques.

Point taken. Thank you for the insight.