We fabricated drug charges against innocent people to meet arrest quotas

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IcePickFreak

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There's a difference in calling someone out on something when you first see em doing the wrong thing, than doing it with them, getting caught, and then ratting them out to save your own ass because you were the only one dumb enough to get caught.

In the first instance, you're "doing the right thing." In the second instance, you're a snitch.
 

Craig234

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We need to teach people that being an accomplice to wrongdoing is wrong, the word 'snitch' is a problem.

I don't care if it's a gang member, a US Senator, a union member, a police officer, a drug company employee, whatever - if wrong things are done, the responsibility is to stop it.

We should reinforce this all kinds of ways, from civics classes to tv shows to rules to celebrating those who do the right thing.

That's not the same thing as not keeping appropriate confidences - that should be discouraged/punished.
 

ichy

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You're probably over-generalizing here. Corruption seems to be endemic to the cultures of certain PD's, or more likely, certain precincts or departments. I haven't seen evidence that this practice is widespread throughout the country.

There are probably a number of variables that affect corruption in specific locales, emphasis on quantitative evaluation being just one of them. In some cases, it may be just be bad luck - yet get a few cops of lower moral character in the same place at the same time. Maybe they influence some others who are borderline but would have been straight otherwise.

One problem that a lot of urban police departments have is the scourge of affirmative action. Unqualified or high questionable recruits are accepted as long as they fill the right diversity quota. The result is often cops who are little better than the gang-bangers they're supposed to protect us from.
 

ShawnD1

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We need to teach people that being an accomplice to wrongdoing is wrong, the word 'snitch' is a problem.

I don't care if it's a gang member, a US Senator, a union member, a police officer, a drug company employee, whatever - if wrong things are done, the responsibility is to stop it.

We should reinforce this all kinds of ways, from civics classes to tv shows to rules to celebrating those who do the right thing.

That's not the same thing as not keeping appropriate confidences - that should be discouraged/punished.
Man, what the fug? Your view of Amerika sounds like the USSR where kids are expected to turn in their own parents for speaking out against the state. We shouldn't live in a society of fear where we can't do illegal things with our friends.

What's funny is when people pretend their crimes are not real crimes. I only bought 8 bus passes but I'll put on my taxes that I bought 12 and get a bigger refund muhahahaha! (tax fraud)
 

pcgeek11

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Jun 12, 2005
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unwritten rule I guess. Its accepted that everyone 'bends the rules' on occasion. If you talk to internal affairs you are seen as a rat and untrustworthy and are ostracized.

This is an unwritten rule across many organizations not just police. you just don't rat your friends out. ATOT is the only community I've seen where ratting on your friends is looking upon with such high esteem.

LOL New York Cops are the worst..
 

sygyzy

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What's sad about news like this is nobody's surprised. It's not appalling at all to me anymore. There's pretty isn't anything you can tell me about the corruption of cops that would make me lose some sleep. The reason: there are no ramifications for their actions. Yes, I see that $300K was paid out by the city (not the cops) and 8 officers were arrested. I expect them to be let go on parole.
 

Fenixgoon

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Sinsear

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doesn't surprise me. i don't buy "cops don't have speed ticket quotas."



Quotas are illegal.


But everyone has a "suggested number" if you want to keep bosses off your back, or if you want a transfer to a specialized unit etc.
 

woolfe9999

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One problem that a lot of urban police departments have is the scourge of affirmative action. Unqualified or high questionable recruits are accepted as long as they fill the right diversity quota. The result is often cops who are little better than the gang-bangers they're supposed to protect us from.

So you think it's mostly black and/or hispanic cops who are the corrupt ones? You have anything to back that up?