[WCCFTech] HD 7990 flop. AMD may discontinue it

[Ibra]

The two main issues regarding 7990 adoption are, according to WCCFTech, micro-stuttering with Crossfire setups and the better dollar value of paired 7970s. The 7990 comes in at the thousand dollar ($1000 USD) price point despite being, for all intents and purposes, nearly identical to a pair of separate 7970 cards. While the 7990 has access to a superior "Never Settle" bundle when compared to twin 7970s, with the addition of a Deux Ex: Human Revolution license, it would be difficult to consider that as an excuse for the $200-$300 USD price gap.

Cost aside, this would be a really odd time to cancel the 7990. The product was launched just a few months ago, despite similar price concerns, only to be allegedly killed right before the driver that makes it worth its weight? If true, either AMD decided to annul their "mistake", or we will get some interesting news when the frame pacing driver finally gets released.
http://www.pcper.com/news/General-Tech/AMD-may-discontinue-Radeon-HD-7990

Remember how AMD brag how they will fix HD 7990 frame pacing issue? Obviously they can't if they decided discontinue HD 7990.

 

[Erenhardt]

Remember how AMD brag how they will fix HD 7990 frame pacing issue? Obviously they can't if they decided discontinue HD 7990.

Does it mean all 7990 will disappear?! Ohhh noes...

Guess GTX500 series had also frame pacing issue, since they are discontinued...

 

[BallaTheFeared]

I really hope that's not the case /\

Hopefully it's just a sales issue, does anyone here even have one?

 

[blackened23]

Nice troll thread, not completely unexpected.

 

[VulgarDisplay]

I would honestly not be surprised if more of these sold to bitminers than gtx690's to gamers. Obvious trolling regardless.

 

[f1sherman]

Don't fall for this folks - AMD is not EOL-ing 7990.
Even if it burns school full of very small children.

Matter of fact they are getting fixed...soon.
All 5 them :ninja:

Warning issued for threadcrapping, unless factual evidence of a school full of very small children having been burned down by a 7990 can be produced.
-- stahlhart

 

[jackstar7]

Mine has been working great for me. If they do get discontinued, I'd likely pick up another (if discounted) for quadfire.

Not my favorite price point, even right now, but it offers what I want for my setup.

 

[x3sphere]

I haven't had any issues with mine, runs great. The card only truly launched last month actually, they were always OOS on Newegg in May, and I couldn't find any other e-tailers in the US that had them at the time.

Stock seems to be more plentiful now, I don't know why they'd ramp up production and then discontinue it.

Btw the card runs very cool in my case (Corsair 650D), doesn't go above 80C in gaming, and it's pretty quiet - dual 7950/7970s are definitely louder, so that's one reason to get this.

 

[Face2Face]

Nice troll thread, not completely unexpected.

+1

 

[notty22]

Tom's did a crossfire review and had troubles. Named the article this, a reference to Game of Thrones.
Radeon HD 7990 In CrossFire: The Red Wedding Of Graphics
Partial quote from conclusion:

The folks at iBuyPower chimed in next, reporting that dual Radeon HD 7990s are not available due to driver issues encountered during qualification. Additionally, they drew the same conclusion as I did in my launch coverage: 7990s are simply not designed to play well with other components in the same enclosure. Even one Radeon HD 7990 requires a chassis with good airflow.
Kelt Reeves of Falcon Northwest sent out the third (and most detailed) feedback message, stating that Falcon hasn't qualified single- or dual-card Radeon HD 7990 configurations because they failed on the bench. His response warrants a quote:
"For single-card, the issue had to do with the cards warping after heating up, causing their cooling fans to rub on the shroud and creating an awful racket. We don’t know if that issue was limited to our samples, and that probably could’ve been fixed with a retention bracket we asked AMD for. That issue became moot, though, because four-way CrossFire is really the only configuration our clientele want a 7990 for. In a dual-GPU setup, two 7970s are slightly faster and exhaust properly, so they are a better option."
According to Kelt, his team saw the same issues as me, with temperatures as high as 104 degrees. The following picture he took with a thermal camera serves as the perfect illustration of what I was trying to describe.

When it launched, a generous eight-game bundle had me on the fence about the 7990’s prospects. But after spending time evaluating its thermals and acoustics (to say nothing about its crashes and performance hiccups in CrossFire, which could become a story unto itself), I can’t think of one reason to recommend 7990 to a friend. And, at the end of the day, that’s what this job is all about.

 

[BrightCandle]

They have kind of been slammed since release. You have all the frame pacing reviews showing the card is worse than buying a 7970, then you have Toms who have told us that it has cooling concerns with the cards and anything else anywhere near them. The cost is much higher than I guess AMD would like. All in all no review site or magazine I have seen has done anything but slam the product as rubbish. Its not really a surprise that it didn't sell well with reviews that bad.

AMD needed to release the frame rating driver fix before they released this card, and they needed to release it at a price point at or below a pair of 7970's. It was a bad decision to go ahead anyway.

 

[SlowSpyder]

The problem with the 7990 is the price. AMD should price it to compete with the GTX780, not Titan.

 

[philipma1957]

was good for mining.


I had a power color 7990 purchased for black friday .

paid 899 got lots of games. earned a lot of coins with it.

sold it for 800 apr 1st or 2nd. this year.

 

[Smoblikat]

Don't fall for this folks - AMD is not EOL-ing 7990.
Even if it burns school full of very small children.

Matter of fact they are getting fixed...soon.
All 5 them :ninja:

Warning issued for threadcrapping, unless factual evidence of a school full of very small children having been burned down by a 7990 can be produced.
-- stahlhart

LOL, you just restored all my faith in the mods here

Also, you shouldnt tempt him............

 

[sushiwarrior]

TomsHardware's problem is they are using a low/medium end case to cool $2000 worth of graphics cards. HAF has very poor GFX area airflow. Anything with real GFX area airflow won't have a problem. 7990 is all internal exhaust, no surprise when it gets hot if you don't get fresh air to it.

 

[Keysplayr]

TomsHardware's problem is they are using a low/medium end case to cool $2000 worth of graphics cards. HAF has very poor GFX area airflow. Anything with real GFX area airflow won't have a problem. 7990 is all internal exhaust, no surprise when it gets hot if you don't get fresh air to it.

Well then you need to contact them and set them straight! ASAP!

 

[bystander36]

TomsHardware's problem is they are using a low/medium end case to cool $2000 worth of graphics cards. HAF has very poor GFX area airflow. Anything with real GFX area airflow won't have a problem. 7990 is all internal exhaust, no surprise when it gets hot if you don't get fresh air to it.

If you read the article, they also reached out to many other sources for their experience, and everyone was having the same issue that attempted it. They also used the cases AMD recommended.

 

[Stuka87]

AMD doesnt even manufacture the cards. The OEM's do (MSI, Sapphire, PowerColor, etc).

There is nothing for AMD to cancel.

 

[TerryMathews]

As the not proud owner of a Rage Fury Maxx, let me the first to day "not the first time."

 

[sushiwarrior]

Well then you need to contact them and set them straight! ASAP!

I'm not going to deny that the 7990 can get extremely hot and the 690 has an easier cooling solution, I'm just saying don't be surprised when you put the 7990 in a bad scenario and it does badly.

If you read the article, they also reached out to many other sources for their experience, and everyone was having the same issue that attempted it. They also used the cases AMD recommended.

Yes, AMD recommended the case, but trust me those recommendations are just some random case that marketing chose, engineers aren't consulted with that.

The other companies didn't have the same issue. Maingear kept theirs at under 90C. They just said "yes, this is a hot high end card". And they gave it proper airflow, and it was fine. No real surprise or magical method.

 

[Final8ty]

The problem with the 7990 is the price. AMD should price it to compete with the GTX780, not Titan.

Yes the Price is the problem and not the reviews unless it was proven that pacing issues is worse on it than other 7 series CF solutions , it got slammed as soon as consumers saw the price and no different from when the 7 series was launched, look at that price, its slamming time.

Oh and way to late into the generation cycle, people want new stuff and most wont fork out large sums this late in the cycle when new stuff is on the way.

I'm glad it flopped.

 

[tviceman]

If the latest rumors are to be believed, more than likely it's getting discontinued because AMD will be launching the 9000 series right around that time.

 

[Lonyo]

AMD doesnt even manufacture the cards. The OEM's do (MSI, Sapphire, PowerColor, etc).

There is nothing for AMD to cancel.

Well, even if AMD cancelled "their" HD7990, the OEM ones which were being produced before AMD even announced "their" HD7990 wouldn't necessarily go away. They were there before the AMD official version.

 

[x3sphere]

If the latest rumors are to be believed, more than likely it's getting discontinued because AMD will be launching the 9000 series right around that time.

If that's the case, there's no story here then... last gen parts are normally discontinued when the new series debuts.

 

[Erenhardt]

Remember how AMD brag how they will fix HD 7990 frame pacing issue? Obviously they can't if they decided discontinue HD 7990.

Same thing with gtx 660ti, 670 & 680
http://www.sweclockers.com/nyhet/17264-geforce-gtx-660-ti-670-och-680-fasas-ut
damn this frame pacing issue!
Soon we will be left with intel hd only ;/