[WCCF] AMD Kaveri lineup for 2014 leaked

[Fjodor2001]

http://wccftech.com/amd-kaveri-apu-lineup-2014-leaked-aseries-apus-steamroller-gcn-cores/

[B]Model            AMD A10-7850K  AMD A10-7700K  AMD A10-7800   AMD A8-7600    AMD A6-7400K  AMD A4-7300[/B]
Cores            4/4            4/4            4/4            4/4            2/2           2/2
Unlocked Design  Yes            Yes            No             No             Yes           Yes
Base Clock       3.7 GHz        3.4 GHz        3.5 GHz        3.1 GHz        TBA           3.4 GHz
Turbo Clock      4.0 GHz        3.8 GHz        3.9 GHz        3.8 GHz        TBA           3.8 GHz
HSA Support      Yes            Yes            Yes            Yes            Yes           Yes
L2 Cache         4 MB           4 MB           4 MB           4 MB           1 MB          1 MB
Graphics Core    Radeon R7      Radeon R7      Radeon R7      Radeon R7      Radeon R5     Radeon R5
Compute Units    8              6              8              6              4             3
GPU Cores        512            384            512            384            256           192
GPU Clock        720 MHz        720 MHz        720 MHz        720 MHz        TBA           514 MHz
TDP              95W            95W            65W            65W            65W           65W
Launch           14th Jan 2014  14th Jan 2014  14th Jan 2014  14th Jan 2014  TBA           TBA

Now all we need is some official benchmarks! 🙂

 

[inf64]

Posted in other Kaveri topic... Again wccftech "news" website 😡

 

[Sweepr]

654MHz base, 720MHz boost clock for A8 & A10 models. Richland comparisons should be interesting. 🙂

 

[SPBHM]

no Athlon?

 

[inf64]

no Athlon?

Seems like Athlons are scheduled later this time around. Maybe AMD doesn't have many bad dice with defective GPUs in order to resort to salvaging them that way.
Unlocked SR part akin to 750K would be great IF Kaveri can OC on air to ~4.2-4.3Ghz. If not then it's not worth it.

 

[Fjodor2001]

Posted in other Kaveri topic... Again wccftech "news" website 😡

Yes, it seems so. It's a bit hard to keep track of every post in all forum threads. Sometimes there's a thread starting with one subject, and then the discussion turns in a completely different direction not really discussing the original topic anymore. And then someone posts a link or image with info that you'd not expect to find in that thread judging by the thread title alone. Searching does not help either all the time, because images and links are hard to match for by search text.

So I think us forum users just have to help each other out and inform of such info already posted elsewhere.

Still, in some cases I think subjects pop up that are important enough to mandate their own thread, even if someone happens to already have posted e.g. a link on the subject in some other thread. Because then it might just "drown" in all the other sub-topics discussed in the already existing thread.

Just my 2 cents...

 

[Blitzvogel]

I really hope that the graphics can hit close to 1000 MHz.

 

[Enigmoid]

I really hope that the graphics can hit close to 1000 MHz.

Even it it could its too memory bottlenecked to make much of a difference.

 

[cbn]

Even it it could its too memory bottlenecked to make much of a difference.

I agree it will be bottlenecked, but at least we have come to the point where the DDR3 2400 memory is very cheap:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...CE&Pagesize=20

 

[schmuckley]

I agree it will be bottlenecked, but at least we have come to the point where the DDR3 2400 memory is very cheap:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...CE&Pagesize=20

Every last kit on that page is single-sided Hynix, except the G.Skill which should be double-sided Samsung..but ya never know..

 

[mikk]

What a horrible copy and paste site this is wccftech. Unbelievable that they get so much attention (and clicks).

 

[Fjodor2001]

I'm wondering if we'll have to wait until Excavator until we see some new FX 6-8 CPU core chips?

 

[Brekyrself]

Any idea if well see Kaveri with more PCIe lanes in 2014? All the boards are either a single x16 or dual x8 for 3.0.

 

[JDG1980]

I'm wondering if we'll have to wait until Excavator until we see some new FX 6-8 CPU core chips?

That would be my guess. It isn't cost-effective to develop a FX core for desktop users only; any new big-core CPU is going to be designed as a server chip first and foremost, with enthusiasts getting a cut-down version. (This is how Intel's LGA 2011 series works, for instance.) And Steamroller, from what we know so far, isn't a big enough improvement over Piledriver to be much more competitive in the server space. Besides, AMD may still have obligations under the WSA to buy more 32nm wafers from Global Foundries or pay a penalty. (That contract is proving to be a massive albatross around their necks. Thanks again, Hector Ruiz.)

The margins on server CPUs are big enough that I don't think AMD wants to abandon the field altogether. But they need to have a mature 28nm (or, better yet, 20nm) process, with good yields and plenty of room for scaling, and they need a better CPU design with competitive IPC. If Excavator, paired with L3 cache, can reach IPC ratings on par with Sandy Bridge, then it could be a reasonably competitive server part with higher margins than APUs. And this, in turn, means there would be little extra cost in selling the lower-binned dies to enthusiasts.

 

[erunion]

:whiste:

I'm wondering if we'll have to wait until Excavator until we see some new FX 6-8 CPU core chips?

AMD roadmap says no new FX through2015. So maybe a new chip in 2016, or maybe its EOL.

 

[Fjodor2001]

:whiste:

AMD roadmap says no new FX through2015. So maybe a new chip in 2016, or maybe its EOL.

I think they've also said FX line is not dead.

 

[mikk]

I think they've also said FX line is not dead.

PR statement.

 

[Tuna-Fish]

no Athlon?

These kind of leaks/releases tend to happen product line at a time, and Athlon is probably a different line (despite being the same chip). So absence here says nothing about it.

 

[Fjodor2001]

PR statement.

How do you know that?

 

[mikk]

How do you know that?

Such statements from PR guys are PR statements, they are meaningless. It is standard practice in this business and the answer itself is meaningless. They could sell the old FX Piledriver till 2015, 2016....and could claim FX is not dead. It is just a meaningless PR statement.

 

[Fjodor2001]

Such statements from PR guys are PR statements, they are meaningless. It is standard practice in this business and the answer itself is meaningless. They could sell the old FX Piledriver till 2015, 2016....and could claim FX is not dead. It is just a meaningless PR statement.

Yes, they could. But they could just as well introduce new FX CPUs based on Steamroller or Excavator. How do you know for sure that is not the case?

Otherwise by the same logic you could claim the Intel enthusiast CPU line to be dead beyond Haswell-E.

 

[Lil Frier]

Well, I think that we can reasonably determine (based on provided information, not purely by speculating) that Steamroller will not see an FX iteration. They said that FX won't come in 2014, and given that 2015 is supposed to bring us Excavator, it is totally fair to interpret their statements as meaning that Excavator is the first chance we will get to see a new FX processor.

I'm wondering if it could mean that Excavator comes out with FX processors on AM4 or a migration of the desktop stuff to FM2+ or something, because people keep calling AM3+ a "dead" socket.

 

[Sweepr]

Desktop Roadmap: No ''FX'' Vishera successor till the end of 2015 at the earliest. Excavator reduces TDP to 65W (configurable).

Server Roadmap: Warsaw this year, still based on PD (no successor till the end of 2015). No 6-8 core APU till the end of 2015 at the earliest (very likely no for desktops too).

 

[jpiniero]

Yes, they could. But they could just as well introduce new FX CPUs based on Steamroller or Excavator. How do you know for sure that is not the case?

AMD's official server roadmap (through 2015) shows that the Big Server line is only going to be Piledriver though that time. They are going to refresh it with new PD models at some point however. FX could possibly get the same PD refresh at that time as well, so it's not "dead".

 

[Vesku]

No point in a performance based server/enthusiast product refresh unless you can be competitive. If these Kaveri leaks are accurate then the GF 28nm process is only netting them some die density, not seeing much in the way of power efficiency improvements.