What even brought that up?
The two first were men who did wrong things to serve Nixon and went to prison.
Waxman is a hard-working expert performing Congressional oversight.
I don't see much in common, really, beyond cashing a federal check.
LunarRay
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Waxman is the most effective Congressman I know of... and why he got the votes to take over his current committee... My comment to who ever it was is what I call subtle sublime sarcasm. (sublime as in passing from a solid into a vapor) ... poof...
"Stalin would like him"... as Stalin would like the methods of Nixon's crew and Henry just don't reach to that high exalted level... (as some would deem he should)...
I can't speak about the "typical idiot" since I don't hang out with many. What's it like?
60 years ago the Democrats were still Americans (and Ronald Regan was one of them). Now they are about Soros, MoveOn and letting terrorists go (a Cole bomber even) while harassing the CIA to prevent them from being effective.
How anyone calling themselves an America can be a Dem after they attacked the troops (after voting "yes" on war - think FDR would call troops Nazi's and butchers?) in mid war and hoped for loses to embarrass Bush is hard to fathom. It's no surprise these same people are bullying and smearing people left and right and generally behaving like tyrants. Obama isn't Hitler but King George has nothing to lose being compared to him.
Wow still fighting battles from 4 years ago? You're such a miserable piece it's not worth the time.
What a sad post.
I just caught this:
Health Insurers Fear Probe By House Dems Is Reprisal for Opposing Part of Obama's Plan.
"In a move some fear is a reprisal for opposing President Obama's health care plan, Democrats sent 52 letters to health insurers requesting financial records for a House committee's investigation.
Reps. Henry Waxman, D-Calif., and Bart Stupak, D-Mich., sent a letter warning health insurers that the House Energy and Commerce Committee is "examining executive compensation and other business practices of the health industry."
Waxman, chairman of the committee, and Stupak, chairman of the Oversight and Investigations Subcommittee did not inform their Republican counterparts of their plans.
Health insurers have until Sept. 4 to provide Congress a detailed list of every employee who made over a $1 million dollars a year between 2003 and 2008. Democrats also want documents about conferences and any events held off company property as well as the types of transportation, lodging, food, entertainment and even gifts exchanged.
Raising the intimidation stakes: the Waxman letter offers insurers no explanation of what is being investigated or why.
Industry insiders fear the beginning of reprisals for anyone daring to dissent from the Obama agenda. One said it feels like a reprisal audit by the IRS."
http://www.foxnews.com/politic...-opposing-obamas-plan/
This reminds me of:
"One of my clients was directly threatened by the White House and in essence compelled to withdraw its opposition to the deal under the threat that the full force of the White House Press Corps would destroy its reputation if it continued to fight. That?s how hard it is to stand on this side of the fence."
Creditor lawyer in Chrysler debacle
And this:
The White house is "going to various elements of health-care industry and saying if you oppose this your going to go on the 'pay for' list - what is the 'pay for list? you will pay for this the rest of your life because we are going to remember this"
John Fund @ Wall Street Journal
Health Insurers Fear Probe By House Dems Is Reprisal for Opposing Part of Obama's Plan.
"In a move some fear is a reprisal for opposing President Obama's health care plan, Democrats sent 52 letters to health insurers requesting financial records for a House committee's investigation.
Reps. Henry Waxman, D-Calif., and Bart Stupak, D-Mich., sent a letter warning health insurers that the House Energy and Commerce Committee is "examining executive compensation and other business practices of the health industry."
Waxman, chairman of the committee, and Stupak, chairman of the Oversight and Investigations Subcommittee did not inform their Republican counterparts of their plans.
Health insurers have until Sept. 4 to provide Congress a detailed list of every employee who made over a $1 million dollars a year between 2003 and 2008. Democrats also want documents about conferences and any events held off company property as well as the types of transportation, lodging, food, entertainment and even gifts exchanged.
Raising the intimidation stakes: the Waxman letter offers insurers no explanation of what is being investigated or why.
Industry insiders fear the beginning of reprisals for anyone daring to dissent from the Obama agenda. One said it feels like a reprisal audit by the IRS."
http://www.foxnews.com/politic...-opposing-obamas-plan/
This reminds me of:
"One of my clients was directly threatened by the White House and in essence compelled to withdraw its opposition to the deal under the threat that the full force of the White House Press Corps would destroy its reputation if it continued to fight. That?s how hard it is to stand on this side of the fence."
Creditor lawyer in Chrysler debacle
And this:
The White house is "going to various elements of health-care industry and saying if you oppose this your going to go on the 'pay for' list - what is the 'pay for list? you will pay for this the rest of your life because we are going to remember this"
John Fund @ Wall Street Journal
Lemon law
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Labeling it as my own opinion, private health insurance companies are not part of any effective reform and are the problem and are the problems in a nutshell.
Bottom line, we can retain private for profit health care companies or reform the health care delivery process, but we cannot do both.
The private health care companies know they cannot survive in any competition with government centralized health care, so its a life and death struggle for them. Darwins survival of the unfitting rip offs.
In any honest comparison costs between health care proposed reforms and the existing system, the insurance companies lose hands down, which is why dishonest arguments about how horrible reform would be is the FUD that drowns out honest comparisons.
Bottom line, we can retain private for profit health care companies or reform the health care delivery process, but we cannot do both.
The private health care companies know they cannot survive in any competition with government centralized health care, so its a life and death struggle for them. Darwins survival of the unfitting rip offs.
In any honest comparison costs between health care proposed reforms and the existing system, the insurance companies lose hands down, which is why dishonest arguments about how horrible reform would be is the FUD that drowns out honest comparisons.
"Health insurers have until Sept. 4 to provide Congress a detailed list of every employee who made over a $1 million dollars a year between 2003 and 2008. Democrats also want documents about conferences and any events held off company property as well as the types of transportation, lodging, food, entertainment and even gifts exchanged. "
WTF!!! Talk about chicago style politics. This is clearly an effort to rile all the populace hate for people that make money and paint the insurance companies as the bad guys. Obama and congress's goal is to eliminate private insurance from their own words so this is just more proof of their goals - destroy private industry so government has control.
Congress/Obama - "look at what we did to other companies, you're going to be next". This move by congress is totally egregious.
WTF!!! Talk about chicago style politics. This is clearly an effort to rile all the populace hate for people that make money and paint the insurance companies as the bad guys. Obama and congress's goal is to eliminate private insurance from their own words so this is just more proof of their goals - destroy private industry so government has control.
Congress/Obama - "look at what we did to other companies, you're going to be next". This move by congress is totally egregious.
Which is why everyone knows Obama is lying when he says it's a "myth" that people won't lose their private care. This is what gets people fired up at townhalls - everyone knows Obama and Dems are lying. Private care will go away, Illegals will get into health-care, seniors who are citizens will get rationed. There bullies couldn't run clunker-care never mind health-care.
CADsortaGUY
Lifer
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Let Waxman get his information. Let's get the same thing on every member of Congress, and cap their war chests to oh, a million or so, and no more than 10K can be given by any individual or organization. Since we're all about avoiding waste and such.
I just came across this about Waxman cap and charade...
Witness Intimidation on Cap-and-Trade
http://www.nlpc.org/stories/20...ics-cap-and-trade-bill
Seems Dems didn't like testimony they were getting one day so (on the same day) they sent out a letter to intimidate.
"One of the witnesses was David Sokol, CEO of MidAmerican Energy Holdings Company. Sokol criticized the Waxman-Markey bill because it would result in higher electricity rates for his customers. At the same time the hearing was taking place, Rep. Edward Markey (D-MA), the subcommittee chairman and bill co-sponsor, sent a letter to the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission (FERC) asking the agency to investigate the business dealings of MidAmerican. Sokol and committee Republicans charged Markey with trying to intimidate him. Markey apologized for the letter and said intimidation was not his intention."
Sokol was not aware of the letter until a reporter asked him about it after his testimony. He calls the letter a flagrant case of witness intimidation. "Anytime a congressman sends a letter to a regulator of your company it is obviously concerning. It is hard to believe it was done for any reason other than to intimidate," said Sokol. He added that the letter did not intimidate him and will not change his negative views of the stiff energy taxes in the Waxman-Markey bill.
Republicans were furious when they learned that the letter was sent the same day that Sokol was testifying as a Republican witness before the subcommittee. Rep. Steve Buyer (R-IN) said, "There's systematic intimidation going on, and bullying of individuals by a party that preaches tolerance and it must stop."
Tyrants in the making
Witness Intimidation on Cap-and-Trade
http://www.nlpc.org/stories/20...ics-cap-and-trade-bill
Seems Dems didn't like testimony they were getting one day so (on the same day) they sent out a letter to intimidate.
"One of the witnesses was David Sokol, CEO of MidAmerican Energy Holdings Company. Sokol criticized the Waxman-Markey bill because it would result in higher electricity rates for his customers. At the same time the hearing was taking place, Rep. Edward Markey (D-MA), the subcommittee chairman and bill co-sponsor, sent a letter to the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission (FERC) asking the agency to investigate the business dealings of MidAmerican. Sokol and committee Republicans charged Markey with trying to intimidate him. Markey apologized for the letter and said intimidation was not his intention."
Sokol was not aware of the letter until a reporter asked him about it after his testimony. He calls the letter a flagrant case of witness intimidation. "Anytime a congressman sends a letter to a regulator of your company it is obviously concerning. It is hard to believe it was done for any reason other than to intimidate," said Sokol. He added that the letter did not intimidate him and will not change his negative views of the stiff energy taxes in the Waxman-Markey bill.
Republicans were furious when they learned that the letter was sent the same day that Sokol was testifying as a Republican witness before the subcommittee. Rep. Steve Buyer (R-IN) said, "There's systematic intimidation going on, and bullying of individuals by a party that preaches tolerance and it must stop."
Tyrants in the making
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Originally posted by: LunarRay
Waxman is the most effective Congressman I know of... and why he got the votes to take over his current committee... My comment to who ever it was is what I call subtle sublime sarcasm. (sublime as in passing from a solid into a vapor) ... poof...
"Stalin would like him"... as Stalin would like the methods of Nixon's crew and Henry just don't reach to that high exalted level... (as some would deem he should)...
One thing you'll learn about Craig is that not only is he completely devoid of humor, he's not really as smart as his ego leads him to believe. Even though you are a kindred spirit of sorts to his way of thinking, your reply might have given him cause to send you a PM asking you to never again read and respond to his posts. Well done sir!
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