Wave gun at car, get shot

spidey07

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Aug 4, 2000
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When will people learn, that if you threaten somebody you have a likelihood of getting dead? If you point a weapon at them don't be surprised if they fire back. No charges filed.

http://www.wave3.com/story/14469877...age-incident-ends-in-shooting-victim-critical

The two SUVs, friends of each other, decide to get off of the Intersate and get gas. Police say the driver of the minivan, 53-year-old Su Hong Springer, also from Tennessee, followed them and showed a gun at the gas station.

"A passenger in the backseat of the Nissan Rogue sees the gun, feels threatened and pops off a couple of rounds," said Officer Virgil Willoughby of the Elizabethtown Police Department. "One round striking Mr. Springer, he's currently listed in critical condition."

The suspected shooter, 24-year-old Howard Wright of Memphis, TN, has a permit to carry a concealed weapon.

According to Willoughby, Kentucky law states if someone presents a handgun, you have the right to defend yourself. It's a thought that has area residents concerned.
 

bfdd

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Feb 3, 2007
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honestly i don't think people understand "treat others how you would want to be treated" if someone points a gun at me, i'm going to assume they're trying to kill me and will of course try to kill them first. that's how the guy wanted me to treat him right?
 

waggy

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Dec 14, 2000
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idiot. how do you know he didn't want to discus guns and was just showing his? HUH? now a guy is shot just trying to be friendly and strike up a conversation!
 

amdhunter

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May 19, 2003
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I wish they'd allow carry laws in NYC (at least for those that aren't politicians or celebrities.) I've never felt less at ease in my neighborhood as I have this past year.

Car windows being shot out daily, there has been 2 murders (one in daylight) this year right in front of my window, and constant robberies in my building.

With the NYPD in my area not doing anything, I honestly believe (and I am being 100% serious) that I'll be dead before the end of this year. It's not that I am scared, it's because I am confrontational, and I will end up dying because I am going to say the wrong thing to the wrong person.

It's not the way people should live. I don't have enough to just pack up and leave. Anywhere I can afford will be just as shit as it is here.
 
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idiot. how do you know he didn't want to discus guns and was just showing his? HUH? now a guy is shot just trying to be friendly and strike up a conversation!

YEAH! What the F man, when did this world replace friendly convos with shootings????????
 

jlee

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Sep 12, 2001
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I wish they'd allow carry laws in NYC (at least for those that aren't politicians or celebrities.) I've never felt less at ease in my neighborhood as I have this past year.

Car windows being shot out daily, there has been 2 murders (one in daylight) this year right in front of my window, and constant robberies in my building.

With the NYPD in my area not doing anything, I honestly believe (and I am being 100% serious) that I'll be dead before the end of this year. It's not that I am scared, it's because I am confrontational, and I will end up dying because I am going to say the wrong thing to the wrong person stupid.

It's not the way people should live. I don't have enough to just pack up and leave. Anywhere I can afford will be just as shit as it is here.

Then move. Anywhere else in the USA that you can afford to live has murders on the streets every day?
 

Blieb

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Apr 17, 2000
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With the NYPD in my area not doing anything, I honestly believe (and I am being 100% serious) that I'll be dead before the end of this year. It's not that I am scared, it's because I am confrontational, and I will end up dying because I am going to say the wrong thing to the wrong person.

It's not the way people should live. I don't have enough to just pack up and leave. Anywhere I can afford will be just as shit as it is here.

Conscious decision to die? FTL.
 

AstroManLuca

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Jun 24, 2004
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Well yeah, wave a gun at a cop and he'll shoot you. Civilians have no reason to behave any differently if they're armed. Better safe than sorry. If you see some random guy waving a gun around then it's probably a safe assumption that he might go on a killing rampage at any time and then you'll regret not having stopped him first.
 

PlasmaBomb

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Nov 19, 2004
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According to Willoughby, Kentucky law states if someone presents a handgun, you have the right to defend yourself. It's a thought that has area residents concerned.

/facepalm

Sure why not lobby to get it changed, so that if someone brandishes a gun at you, you have no right to defend yourself...
 

PlasmaBomb

Lifer
Nov 19, 2004
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I wish they'd allow carry laws in NYC (at least for those that aren't politicians or celebrities.) I've never felt less at ease in my neighborhood as I have this past year.

Car windows being shot out daily, there has been 2 murders (one in daylight) this year right in front of my window, and constant robberies in my building.

With the NYPD in my area not doing anything, I honestly believe (and I am being 100% serious) that I'll be dead before the end of this year. It's not that I am scared, it's because I am confrontational, and I will end up dying because I am going to say the wrong thing to the wrong person.

It's not the way people should live. I don't have enough to just pack up and leave. Anywhere I can afford will be just as shit as it is here.

Polite suggestion - move.
 

JulesMaximus

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Jul 3, 2003
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:confused: Wait, I thought guns were supposed to make us a more polite society?

This kind of bullshit reminds me of the wild west...
 

spidey07

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Aug 4, 2000
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:confused: Wait, I thought guns were supposed to make us a more polite society?

This kind of bullshit reminds me of the wild west...

A lunatic following you, causing a dangerous road condition and finally confronting with deadly force is not the wild west, it's the actions of somebody with anger issues and was met accordingly.

This is a polite society, when a lunatic threatens your life you politely take his.
 

HAL9000

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Oct 17, 2010
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Sounds like the guy that shot the moron was totally capable of owning a gun safely.

Really? He killed someone (or seriously injured at least) someone because he saw a gun even though it posed no threat to him. Sounds like if he didn't have a gun no one would have been shot.