Waterloo or UBC?

Eugechi

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I have been accepted into General Sciences by both of the Universities, but I have no idea which one I should go to. I am currently living in Vancouver and is about a 10 min. drive from UBC, and I have my friends here. However, I really want to experience the co-op program that Waterloo has, as well as a new start... any input people..?
 

WobbleWobble

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Is cost a concern? I'm assuming you're living with your parents in Vancouver. You'll have to pay rent and stuff at Waterloo.

If you live that close to UBC, I'd personally just stay in Vancouver and go to UBC.
 

Iron Woode

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Originally posted by: Eugechi
I have been accepted into General Sciences by both of the Universities, but I have no idea which one I should go to. I am currently living in Vancouver and is about a 10 min. drive from UBC, and I have my friends here. However, I really want to experience the co-op program that Waterloo has, as well as a new start... any input people..?
I am surprised you didn't mention UWO.
 

JonnyStarks

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Waterloo has a fantastic co-op program, I'm in my first co-op term right now. The science program is great, what do you want to get into?
 

JonnyStarks

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Originally posted by: Iron Woode
Originally posted by: Eugechi
I have been accepted into General Sciences by both of the Universities, but I have no idea which one I should go to. I am currently living in Vancouver and is about a 10 min. drive from UBC, and I have my friends here. However, I really want to experience the co-op program that Waterloo has, as well as a new start... any input people..?
I am surprised you didn't mention UWO.

Friends don't let friends go to Western :)
 

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What high school do you go to?

I'd say Waterloo, if the cost isn't an issue. It'll be a whole new experience for you.
 

eakers

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Originally posted by: JonnyStarks
Originally posted by: Iron Woode
Originally posted by: Eugechi
I have been accepted into General Sciences by both of the Universities, but I have no idea which one I should go to. I am currently living in Vancouver and is about a 10 min. drive from UBC, and I have my friends here. However, I really want to experience the co-op program that Waterloo has, as well as a new start... any input people..?
I am surprised you didn't mention UWO.

Friends don't let friends go to Western :)

Unless they are rich and stuck up..

oops did I just say that?!

 

Patt

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I was accepted at several Canadian universities when I came out of HS, and decided for the local one. I dropped out quickly, and always have regretted the decision to stay local. If you get the chance to go away and 'explore' the world out there, you'll be better off. I have since gone back, away from home, and loved it. I went to the University of Alberta btw ... good luck with the choice.
 

Looney

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Originally posted by: Eugechi
I have been accepted into General Sciences by both of the Universities, but I have no idea which one I should go to. I am currently living in Vancouver and is about a 10 min. drive from UBC, and I have my friends here. However, I really want to experience the co-op program that Waterloo has, as well as a new start... any input people..?

I went to UofW, and they have a FANTASTIC co-op program. I knew people who landed co-op jobs in like the Florida keys, Hawaii, and California!

And definitely take the experience of living in a dorm and all. A 10min drive is good, but you're going to miss out on sooo much of what other 1st yr students are doing because they're going to be partying in their dorms and such.
 

Toonces

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I'm at UW right now; last semester

I'd say for the sciences, UW is great with the co-op program. My roommate has landed jobs in Vancouver, Sudbury, and Alert (freakin' Alert!) doing physics. It's been a great life experience for him and there are now many many job opportunities waiting for him to graduate. Oh, and the pay isn't bad either. ;)

Personally, I agree with Looney - you have to live in residence. It makes the university experience first year. You make lots of friends and generally have much more fun than those who stay home. Meeting people during class isn't on the same level as having a bunch of friends to go to class with. I'd choose waterloo for co-op and to get away from home and get into residence.
 

Martin

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I'd stay away from waterloo.
- waterloo is a small town. Great if all you're interested in is hanging out, drinking and smoking up but there isn't much else to be done.
- winter: You don't really have it in Vancouver, but quite alive and well here. I noticed that there was consistently more snow and colder temps compared to TO, despite being only ~120km away.
- nature: bot much of it. There's nothing but flat farmland around here. Makes for decent road biking (when its not freezing cold, and when everythign doesn't smell like ****** thanks to the fertilizer).
- mountains: non existent.
- urban beauty: similarly non-existent. Waterloo's sprawed out suburb in the middle of a bunch of farms.

I was thinking of UofW's engineering program when I was in HS, but I'm quite glad I stayed in TO. Apart from the decent biking, there is nothing I will miss about Waterloo when I leave in september (currently here on a work term).
 

Eugechi

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thanks for all the replies so far. I didn't apply for UWO, which is why it wasn't a choice. I haven't applied for any scholarships for Waterloo, but I have got two already for UBC. I am currently going to Point Grey for the person who was asking..
 

clickynext

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About a year ago, I was faced with a similar decision. I was deciding between engineering at UBC, SFU, UW, and U of T. I heard that UW really has an outstanding program and it's quite well known now, but I chose UBC because in the end it made more sense. UBC is by no means a slouch compared to any other university in Canada. The science faculty appears to be pretty good and very big. A lot of my friends are in it.

If you live 10 minutes from UBC, then you are extremely lucky, because I know a lot of people who come here despite an hour and a half commute one way every morning and afternoon/night. I've got a 40 minute drive every morning, and in the afternoon if it's rush hour, closer to an hour. It's even better if you're able to live here for free, I'm assuming you can live with your parents or something.

I agree with the things Martin said. Vancouver is just such a great place to live that that alone might be worth it to stay. It's so unbelievably temperate here, with very little winter weather, yet we have great skiing in just a half hour drive. It's really beautiful here compared to the other places I've seen and lived in. UBC is really a nice place to be because there's a really rich student life. Always lots of stuff happening on what is perhaps the most beautiful campus in Canada, definitely one of the most beautiful in North America. There's a pub, and even a decent arcade if you're into that.

I know I sound like a brochure, but this stuff is important in my opinion. If it's less trouble to stay here in Vancouver, I'd recommend you stay. Not like you'd be getting a poor education here, and it's not quite on the same level as waterloo in terms of prestige, but it's up there.
 

sdifox

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Stick with UBC. What school you go to has nothing to do with how successful you are, either in school or after school. You are there to learn how to think, not just learning the material you are reading. I have seen too many kids go away from home and lose themselves and drop out. Plus staying home is a whole lot cheaper. Leech while you can :)
 

Martin

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Originally posted by: clickynext
About a year ago, I was faced with a similar decision. I was deciding between engineering at UBC, SFU, UW, and U of T. I heard that UW really has an outstanding program and it's quite well known now, but I chose UBC because in the end it made more sense. UBC is by no means a slouch compared to any other university in Canada. The science faculty appears to be pretty good and very big. A lot of my friends are in it.

If you live 10 minutes from UBC, then you are extremely lucky, because I know a lot of people who come here despite an hour and a half commute one way every morning and afternoon/night. I've got a 40 minute drive every morning, and in the afternoon if it's rush hour, closer to an hour. It's even better if you're able to live here for free, I'm assuming you can live with your parents or something.

I agree with the things Martin said. Vancouver is just such a great place to live that that alone might be worth it to stay. It's so unbelievably temperate here, with very little winter weather, yet we have great skiing in just a half hour drive. It's really beautiful here compared to the other places I've seen and lived in. UBC is really a nice place to be because there's a really rich student life. Always lots of stuff happening on what is perhaps the most beautiful campus in Canada, definitely one of the most beautiful in North America. There's a pub, and even a decent arcade if you're into that.

I know I sound like a brochure, but this stuff is important in my opinion. If it's less trouble to stay here in Vancouver, I'd recommend you stay. Not like you'd be getting a poor education here, and it's not quite on the same level as waterloo in terms of prestige, but it's up there.

Yep, UBC's program won't place you in any kind of a disadvantage. Waterloo's 4 month coops have only limited appeal and all the other schools with 8, 12 and 16 month coops are making inroads.

I do computer eng at UofT, but right now I'm on a 16 month work term at RIM (hence why I live in waterloo during the week, though I usually go home to TO on the weekends) and we just finished hiring the guys who will replace me and my coworker when we finish in August: One of the guys is from McMaster and the other is from UBC. I know a lot of other teams at RIM which are switching from coops to long term interns like myself.

Like I said, unless you hate Vancouver (I don't see how you can, its consistently voted one of the best cities in the world!) moving to Waterloo would be a mistake.
 

JonnyStarks

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Originally posted by: sdifox
Stick with UBC. What school you go to has nothing to do with how successful you are, either in school or after school. You are there to learn how to think, not just learning the material you are reading. I have seen too many kids go away from home and lose themselves and drop out. Plus staying home is a whole lot cheaper. Leech while you can :)

I know people who live in Waterloo and lived in res for the first year instead of staying at home. It cost them a pretty penny, but none of them regret doing it. Live in res, at least for a year.
 

simms

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For engineering? Waterloo. MAYBE science, but their real fortes in the industry are in the engs (comp, elecs, software especially) and the math/biz double degree.

UBC is lots of fun, I worked in Vancouver first year.

<-- UofT Eng
 

skim milk

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what's the admission standard like for UBC out of high school?

I met some students from UBC
 
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General Sciences = safe to go to UWloo for. You'll have plenty of normal people and even women in your classes. :p

If you were going into comp sci though, I'd say UBC. :)

- M4H
 

gopunk

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my canadian friend who went to u of toronto (eng sci) says waterloo is pretty much just known for math and cs, so go with ubc.