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Waterfox 40.1.0 - the last good version?

VirtualLarry

VirtualLarry

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Waterfox_40.1.0_Setup.exe

I have been running this version on all of my PCs. It runs pretty well, and can play streaming internet radio, without having to install Flash Player.

Sadly, more recent versions of Firefox, including the 64-bit variety now available, will not. They skip and stutter.

Well, now there's a 43.0.4 version available as an auto-update for Waterfox. I downloaded the installer, uninstalled my current version, rebooted, and installed it. Garbage!

It has the same problem with streaming radio that the newer Firefox code has. (Which kind of makes sense.)

So now I'm back to this version.

This version isn't all roses. Sometimes, after a while, it gets in a "mood", and opening or closing a new tab causes the CPU to hit 100% on one core, something in the JS engine gets borked or something. Closing and re-starting the browser fixes it, makes it snappy again.
 
Hmm, can't say I have notice your issue.
Where do you stream from, maybe I can check here, and see if it does the same thing?
 
I'm having trouble figuring this out.

Waterfox 40.1.0 64-bit - works fine with streaming radio (HTML 5 media playback), on both SKL G4400 OCed, and my N2830 laptop

Firefox 43.0.4 64-bit - skips on SKL G4400 OCed rig, doesn't skip on my N2830 laptop

Waterfox 43.0.4 64-bit - skips on SKL G4400 OCed rig, haven't tried on laptop

Wondering, is there any CPU feature or registers or something in SKL, that isn't supported properly by a Win7 64-bit SP1 install, with all critical security updates installed?

Note that it seems that any of these browsers will play back internet radio just fine, if I install Flash Player, and then it streams through that.

Note also that the N2830 rig doesn't have any other major programs running besides Skype, while the SKL G4400 OC system has BOINC running, crunching on both CPU cores and GPU (7950 3GB).

Audio is a HDTV connected via HDMI from the 7950, newest Crimson 16.1 Hotfix drivers for Win7 64-bit installed.

I mean, it seems like just a software bug, but ... why does Firefox 64-bit 43.0.4 work fine on my N2830 laptop, but not work on the SKL G4400? Both are dual-core, and the SKL has more CPU time available, although it is also under higher load.

Edit: I set BOINC to "Suspend", and then also closed the program and the tasks, and installed Firefox 64-bit 43.0.4 again, and it skipped again. So the problem doesn't appear to be related to CPU / GPU load.

Edit: Sorry people, I've asked the mods to move this thread to "Software for Windows".
 
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Well, I've been listening to internet radio for the last few hours on Firefox 44.0, 64-bit version, and no issues to speak of. It even seems faster, and uses less memory, than Waterfox 40.1.0.

I think I've found my new browser!
 
There is no "last good version" of a web browser, only "Latest", "You didn't want that website to work, did you?" and "Ooh, look at all these horrifying security holes!"
 
I'd go one step further than dave_the_nerd, there are no "good" web browsers at all. I blame javascript.

https://www.usenix.org/system/files/1403_02-08_mickens.pdf

So, yes, it would be great if fixing your browser involved actions that were not
semantically equivalent to voodoo. But, on the bright side, things could always be worse. For
example, it would definitely be horrible if your browser’s scripting language combined the
prototype-based inheritance of Self, a quasi-functional aspect borrowed from LISP, a
structured syntax adapted from C, and an aggressively asynchronous I/O model that requires
elaborate callback chains that span multiple generations of hard-working Americans. OH NO
I’VE JUST DESCRIBED JAVASCRIPT. What an unpleasant turn of events! People were
egging for a combination of Self, LISP, and C in the same way that the denizens of Middle
Earth were begging Saruman to breed Orcs and men to make Uruk-hai.
Click to expand...
 
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