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aigomorla

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Originally posted by: QueBert
HUMMMM if I ran 2 loops I could have 2 colors! yellow & green. I could make a 7-up themed mod :)

or just perhaps 2 different greens, the Alien & Acid ones I'm looking at seem to have a very different color to them.

http://i125.photobucket.com/al...aigomorla/IMG_0721.jpg

mine used to be baby pink and baby blue. :p

concentration mixes were very small, like 1:15 dilution.


But you get the idea.
 

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updated my wish list, hopefully for the last time. please comment on my final setup anyone who knows. I am planning to order in March.
 

aigomorla

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Originally posted by: QueBert
updated my wish list, hopefully for the last time. please comment on my final setup anyone who knows. I am planning to order in March.

wow... can i first ask why your shopping at frozen? There superly overpriced.

Also why did you get that 3/8 conversion kit? are you intending on running your system 3/8?

if thats the case, it might be cheaper to buy the pump seperate, and do the coversion yourself.

Where are you located at? like What country? i can recomend you places much cheaper that are very reputable.

Ahh.. nm... i see your from CA. USA.

Try these stores. [Always shop around. Sometimes the price difference can be hugh]

Jab-Tech.com <my personal favorate>
Shoppts.com <another favorate>
Sidewindercompters.com <large tygon tubing selection>
Performance-PCS.com <another very large store, fast service>
 

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wasn't ordering from them just got my list together there, I'll order from where the best price is.
 

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Did you order yet? when do we get pictures of the new set-up? I bought a truck so I have $0 computer budget right now so I have to live vicariously through you three.
 

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Originally posted by: DerwenArtos12
Did you order yet? when do we get pictures of the new set-up? I bought a truck so I have $0 computer budget right now so I have to live vicariously through you three.

me order yet? lol sorry, I'm not even 100% sure what to order, thankfully I'm broke right now. EVen when I have money I'm going to have to make this a extended project. Like 1 item or a certain $$$ per paycheck bought. When I have everything and figure out what I want to do I will make a journal with pictures, it should be hilarious for me to undertake such a large project my first time out.
 

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Originally posted by: QueBert
Originally posted by: DerwenArtos12
Did you order yet? when do we get pictures of the new set-up? I bought a truck so I have $0 computer budget right now so I have to live vicariously through you three.

me order yet? lol sorry, I'm not even 100% sure what to order, thankfully I'm broke right now. EVen when I have money I'm going to have to make this a extended project. Like 1 item or a certain $$$ per paycheck bought. When I have everything and figure out what I want to do I will make a journal with pictures, it should be hilarious for me to undertake such a large project my first time out.

it goes together pretty simply, just take your time and do things right and you'll be in good shape.
 

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I'm not so much worried about setting up the Water Cooling, what's going to be hard is making it look clean inside, I want a PC I can show case in pics, and I'm pretty sloppy in general lol. And I'm going to have to figure out how to make custom panels. all the drive bay covers on the front look sloppy, I like how the Murderbox has a solid piece of aluminum with just the CD tray exposed at the top. Throw in wanting to make the MB tray BTX style and painting it black inside. It's going to be quite a project for me. I have it laid out in my head how I want it to look, getting to that point will be a pain though.

Guess I'm up for it, because I really don't want to drop all this $$$ to have a PC I'm not happy with in the end :)
 

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Originally posted by: QueBert
I'm not so much worried about setting up the Water Cooling, what's going to be hard is making it look clean inside, I want a PC I can show case in pics, and I'm pretty sloppy in general lol. And I'm going to have to figure out how to make custom panels. all the drive bay covers on the front look sloppy, I like how the Murderbox has a solid piece of aluminum with just the CD tray exposed at the top. Throw in wanting to make the MB tray BTX style and painting it black inside. It's going to be quite a project for me. I have it laid out in my head how I want it to look, getting to that point will be a pain though.

Guess I'm up for it, because I really don't want to drop all this $$$ to have a PC I'm not happy with in the end :)

Inverting the motherboard tray is actually pretty easy, just be aware of a couple things, the rails that the motherboard tray slide into are not the same size top and bottom so when you move the top one to the bottom you will have to use a couple spacers to get it to the right height, 3/16" or 1/4", i can't remember which. And if you remove the back panel be careful as there is some tension in the main U shaped part of the chassis and it will try and pop apart on you. The custom smooth 5.25" bay covers would most easily be done with a single sheet of steel or aluminum cut to size and glued over the existing bay covers. Any other way would be a stupid amount of work and not look much if any better than a cover sheet done properly.
 

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Originally posted by: QueBert
I'm not so much worried about setting up the Water Cooling, what's going to be hard is making it look clean inside, I want a PC I can show case in pics, and I'm pretty sloppy in general lol. And I'm going to have to figure out how to make custom panels. all the drive bay covers on the front look sloppy, I like how the Murderbox has a solid piece of aluminum with just the CD tray exposed at the top. Throw in wanting to make the MB tray BTX style and painting it black inside. It's going to be quite a project for me. I have it laid out in my head how I want it to look, getting to that point will be a pain though.

Guess I'm up for it, because I really don't want to drop all this $$$ to have a PC I'm not happy with in the end :)

lol...

never mind the water. Im telling you, you use distilled h2o, and nothing else but maybe a little pentosin you wont short anything out with a leak! well, maybe if your eq was caked full of dust,

Ive ran into NIGHTMARES by not being careful. One of the results of having done h2o cooling too many times. You cut corners, and get lazy.

Anyhow... a tube slipped off my radiator barb and my pump was pushing about 22V ~ 26feet head pressure at the outlet!. :p

Make things short, water got everywhere. A lot worse then a drunk person pissing into a tolet.

Took a day to clean and dry out, but nothing shorted. Dont be scared of water if you do it right. Just take your patience so you dont run into thing like this. This type of accident would most likely scare anyone from ever touching water again. :T

But it has happened to every almost every veteran. We leak, cuz were human, and not always perfect, but its not something to freak out from. Find the problem, fix the problem, and just continue.


Incase your wondering, the step i skipped was the leak test with tissue paper. If i had watched that, i would of noticed the paper getting slightly wet and could of caught it b4 it slipped out. :T
 

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ok then I'll use distilled h2o with some UV dye, I'm not worried about this part, I will just take my time and do it right. I'm more worried about taking power tools to a $300 case to make modifications.
 

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I was just looking over your list again and there is room for your 320 down at the bottom, I've seen 2 or 3 people do a PA120.3 and a 120.2 down there and it's TIGHT but it fits so no problem mounting your 320 and 220 down there. I believe thats what rodnock is going to do too.
 

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I see, but wouldn't it be better to mount one at the bottom and one at the top? I would think it would lead to less heat build up and better circulation. I don't want everything to be too crammed.
 

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well, when push comes to shove GPU temperatures don't matter nearly so much to overclocking as temperatures mean for CPU's and with the mesh on both sides your bottom radiator is going to be an in and out right there at the bottom. With a radiator at the top intaking and the rear fans used as exhaust temperatures will certainly be lower, it's just more work both in case modifications and in bleeding the system. Absolutely nothing wrong with the set-up, it's just a little tougher. Will probably look cooler though.
 

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Originally posted by: DerwenArtos12
well, when push comes to shove GPU temperatures don't matter nearly so much to overclocking as temperatures mean for CPU's and with the mesh on both sides your bottom radiator is going to be an in and out right there at the bottom. With a radiator at the top intaking and the rear fans used as exhaust temperatures will certainly be lower, it's just more work both in case modifications and in bleeding the system. Absolutely nothing wrong with the set-up, it's just a little tougher. Will probably look cooler though.

I guess I'll see what to do when I have all the parts and start to actually work on it. Good to know both work out about the same so ultimately it doesn't matter too much how I set it up.

 

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Originally posted by: QueBert
Originally posted by: DerwenArtos12
well, when push comes to shove GPU temperatures don't matter nearly so much to overclocking as temperatures mean for CPU's and with the mesh on both sides your bottom radiator is going to be an in and out right there at the bottom. With a radiator at the top intaking and the rear fans used as exhaust temperatures will certainly be lower, it's just more work both in case modifications and in bleeding the system. Absolutely nothing wrong with the set-up, it's just a little tougher. Will probably look cooler though.

I guess I'll see what to do when I have all the parts and start to actually work on it. Good to know both work out about the same so ultimately it doesn't matter too much how I set it up.

So long as GPU is alone or just has mosfets or memory on it's loop. Should have specified that earlier, chipsets should be on the CPU loop. MCR320 has plenty of surface area for CPU, NB, RAM and mosfets(if you're running 1.45vcore and lower).