WaterCooling Kit

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I have no personal experience with it, but I remember people posting about Swiftech and how the block didn't have barbs on the connections, and it caused a leak... I don't know if there were extenuating circumstances, but something to check out...
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Mattd46612

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hmm gonna check them out. Read that the Swiftech Storm block is the best. Ill have ot investigate more about the barbs.
 

Mattd46612

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I will customize later but for my first W/C setup I want a all in one. And that seems to have some of the best components in it. Could be badass enough that I wont change anything.
 

sparkyclarky

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Originally posted by: Kensai
Looks pretty okay for a starter system. A customized setup would be better.

Actually, in this case a customized setup may perform better, but there's a fair chance not. The only better block on the market is the Storm G5 which is very expensive and not readily available, the pump is top notch, the radiator is more than sufficient (only topped by 3 fan designs), the res is fine/sturdy, the fans are solid (you could get higher cfm, but then noise starts to become an issue), and the radbox makes for easy mounting if you want it. It's very similar to a setup that people would suggest for DIY, just packaged together for a reasonable price in a commercial box.
 

Mattd46612

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Thanks Sparky I thought the same. People see kit and cringe, but its really all the same top notch components I would buy seperately, its just nice to have everything I need in one. Just needed some reassurance or possibly a better idea.
 

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well isn't there that prebuilt presealed loop one now? was it coolermaster? i forget,..about 80 bucks.
 
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Originally posted by: sparkyclarky
Originally posted by: Kensai
Looks pretty okay for a starter system. A customized setup would be better.

Actually, in this case a customized setup may perform better, but there's a fair chance not. The only better block on the market is the Storm G5 which is very expensive and not readily available, the pump is top notch, the radiator is more than sufficient (only topped by 3 fan designs), the res is fine/sturdy, the fans are solid (you could get higher cfm, but then noise starts to become an issue), and the radbox makes for easy mounting if you want it. It's very similar to a setup that people would suggest for DIY, just packaged together for a reasonable price in a commercial box.

There are better blocks. But not on the market. Some of the extreme players in the watercooling area have custom created their own silver CPU and GPU blocks.
Of course every good watercooling system needs to have a Weapon Heatercore or a custom modified heatercore.
 

NotquiteanooB

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Check out the Corsair CWC100-1000 or 1001. Kit comes with the CPU block pre assembled and all the connections have barbs. Kit installation looks pretty simple. Simple enough that I'm ordering one for my next P5P800/P4 540J build. Which will take place in about 3 weeks. Google has some reports on it by various testing groups. I saw no negative reports.
 

Mattd46612

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From most of my reading the already assembled loops like that coolermaster wont get you much if any better temps than a good hsf. Im a member on extremeoverclocking and I guess Weapon is a member there, im gonna order the kit for $249.99 and see what happens from there, from most of my research its a great setup and the watercooling guys at extreme like it. Cant wait to have sick looking neon tubes lighting up my case, and maybe get this venice to 2.8-2.9.
 

sparkyclarky

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Originally posted by: Kensai
Originally posted by: sparkyclarky
Originally posted by: Kensai
Looks pretty okay for a starter system. A customized setup would be better.

Actually, in this case a customized setup may perform better, but there's a fair chance not. The only better block on the market is the Storm G5 which is very expensive and not readily available, the pump is top notch, the radiator is more than sufficient (only topped by 3 fan designs), the res is fine/sturdy, the fans are solid (you could get higher cfm, but then noise starts to become an issue), and the radbox makes for easy mounting if you want it. It's very similar to a setup that people would suggest for DIY, just packaged together for a reasonable price in a commercial box.

There are better blocks. But not on the market. Some of the extreme players in the watercooling area have custom created their own silver CPU and GPU blocks.
Of course every good watercooling system needs to have a Weapon Heatercore or a custom modified heatercore.

That's what I was getting at with the block comments. The Swiftech Storm is the highest performance block that you can readily obtain (e.g. without a long wait from Cathar). Note that it's high performance relies on a high flow rate though (hence the pump that comes with this kit). The rad that comes with this kit is fine, and I'd sincerely doubt that you'd see much of a performance gain going with a heatercore in the context of this kit. The core might come in handy if you plan on adding other blocks into the loop, but in a single CPU scenario I can't see it having much impact (not to mention the installation headaches that come with cores, often necessitating heavy case mods or external cases). Hell, Cathar even helped spec out Thermochill's new rad which is decidedly not a heatercore.
 

NotquiteanooB

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I look forward to seeing your report and perhaps installation photos. It will be awhile but I'll post pics of my completed Corsair setup eventually.
 

sparkyclarky

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It's an interesting concept, but the reviews have shown performance to be less then stellar in comparison to decent 'standard' watercooling setups. There is also much concern about the closed nature of the unit/coolant leak over time. While it is guaranteed to work for 2 years, what happens after that? I'm sure some of us have kept CPU coolers around for longer than that (my SLK-800 is going on 2.5 years now and is still in the upper echelon if air coolers).
 

Mattd46612

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Im gonna beat my head against the wall on this a little bit more but I think its the best choice and Ill end up ordering tuesday. Its going to be in its own seperate case so theres a possibility adding another radiator or heatercore to the mix. Also I like my room very cold so it will benefit from a low ambient temp. A member on extreme has a nice W/C setup in a modded toolbox that I may go for something like that. But you can bet Ill report on here how things go and get pictures up now that Im starting to get really proud of my system.
 

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excellent choice... the kit above uses one of the best pump avaliable.. Swiftech MCP655, Storm G4, Dual Black Ice Extreme. It doesn't get really better than this being preassembled. But I highly advise anyone who buy this block get a low restriction gpu waterblock if you want to add that into your loop. I highly suggest a Danger Den maze4 GPU acetal top.
 

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Thats a good system, I am thinking about buying it, I would try and price it out by yourself and see if you can save any money, and you will have to drill 2 holes in your case for the hoses
 

NotquiteanooB

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Why drill holes??? If you mount the rad externally on the rear of the case, just remove a PCI slot blank and feed the hoses through that spot.
 

Mattd46612

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The kit comes with everything needed for setup and complete instructions so Im just going to stick with that since Im a W/C noob. If I could save it would be minimal for what Ive seen so far. Ill keep you guys updated, Im going to order tonight or tommorow.
 

NINaudio

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That's a very nice setup. Don't think you could possibly go wrong with it. Can't wait to see the pics.
 

sparkyclarky

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Originally posted by: NotquiteanooB
Why drill holes??? If you mount the rad externally on the rear of the case, just remove a PCI slot blank and feed the hoses through that spot.

If they're half inch ID that might be a problem. Last I checked the PCI slot passthrough for tubes was for 3/8 inch ID.
 

NotquiteanooB

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Roger that .... Sparky... I was thinking of the Corsair kit which uses 3/8 inch tubes, but also supplies a notched PCI blank for the tubing to pass through.